"...the brain information through the Axon is continuous."If we are really disassembling it to this level, for the sake of disassembling, then saltatory conduction should not be ignored. Could that signal be called "non-continuous"? I do not know what to do with it in this case, but Nodes of Ranvier do exist.
Should people with no turntable or reel to reel be considered audiophiles?
Just like those driving a Porsche SUV can join PCA (digital audio fans can join Audiogon) but are certainly not Porschephiles unless they also own a coupe (Panamera owners I guess gets a pass here).
Please respond with a yes or no and we'll tally a vote for the first 100 responses.
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Raul keeps posting the same nonsense repeatedly, including personal attacks about brains, behavior, etc. This is not the place for that. Do you understand what a personal attack is versus a logical argument? I doubt it. I forget Raul did you vote yes or no to the original question? Please don't bring up Trump. This is supposed to be fun. My question is the leading discussion trending on Audiogon which is what I wanted. There is no ultimate judge as to whether someone is an Audiophile or not. It would be something you would self describe. If someone wants to call themselves an audiophile, its a free country. No judge and jury - if the question was would you call them an audiophile if they don't own or never have owned a turntable and audiophile, that's your opinion and it can't be right or wrong. |
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Dear @looscannon : Me neither. I pasted general information. The issue is that all the human beens ( but sokogear. ) have an ADC at our inner ears section, this is a binary condition. This is the way the brain takes any sound we hear. The comunication in the brain starts with those discrete electric impulses and this condition is binary too. Now the neurotransmitters comes by a chemical " condition " and I’m not talking about. Now and I take your word as a true one: if somewhere the communication goes analog then somewhere those binary impulses goes through a DAC or something similar because the brain information through the Axon is continuous. The trouble with all those inside the brain is the very low overall knowledge levels that the bio-neurolog or scientific gentlemans have. The very high complexity of the brain operation makes that we can’t have absolute certainty in many operation subjects down there. Look, if you read the article I linked on how our ears works where is really complex ( and are only the ears. ) we can understand the the brain is just out of our overall operation understanding and probably could be that the subjects the neurologes know about could be not exactly as the researchs showed. The ears have not one but at least 3 different kind of transducers along: """ We’ see that it’s literally crammed with equalisers and dynamic compressors, including a multi‑band one. It even includes an extremely efficient filter bank, as well as a highly sophisticated analogue‑to‑digital converter. "" Now with all those kind of transducer in the ears/brain and all those eq., compresors/limiter and the like: what in reality are we listening from the original sound signal? example: how much information are we losting from the sound of the Niagara falls due to the whole ears/brain complex process? Btw, I don't know other persons but I'm learning a lot on this specific subject. Good. R. |
Yes! The Porsche analogy is a good one. As millercarbon stated early on amidst a rum-induced post, it is about the driving experience and listening experience. It doesn’t matter what Porsche or audio gear gets you to your own nirvana. Not being able to afford the ‘67 mechanical fuel injected 911 S my friend obtained in high school around 1980 (now worth 200k), I sought 7 years ago to purchase an ‘85-89 air cooled 911. After sitting in one however, my 6’4” large frame was not comfortable and I bought a 996 with an after market supercharger... what many would consider heretical. In the time I had it (the supercharger had issues), I was in heaven... and hope to own a 911 again someday when I retire.I also own Klipsch Heresys, and yes they too are fun and give me a thrill. |
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In 1982, I bought one of the first Sony CD players made. For the next 20 years, I played nothing but CDs (even when they were going for $30 a pop). Then I went back to vinyl, combined with SACD. I still consider myself an audiophile - I believe the three power amps, two pre-amps, four turntables. three SACD players and multiple pairs of speakers, along with subscriptions to four audio magazines, qualifies me, |
Raul, I was not talking about conduction down the axon. I was talking only about the conduction between neurons which occurs in the synapse by trading off charges molecules called neurotransmitters. The action potential in the neurons axon is an entirely different process which ends with the release of those neurotransmitters. Each neuron has one axon but ends in tens of synapses which communicate with other neurons. It is all a very analog process and in no way resembles digital signal processing. |
Sancho, that is an unfortunate generalization. I know several 911 owners who are great people and are always helping each other with their cars. There is also a very high rate of audiophileism in this group. Real Audiophiles like helping each other constructively with their systems and if you are honest this means pointing out some gear that was not thought out well. This is particularly true with turntables, tonearms and speakers. You have to have a high level education to design electronic gear but I'm afraid any one can cram drivers in a box or pen a tonearm and turntable. |
Panamera, Cayenne and Macan owners do not get the pass. Actually even the new model owners who are posers for most part. I can tell you with certainty after close to 20 years that Porsche owners totally changed and not for the better... As for audiophiles I think the bottom line should be enjoying music. Fort the most part it became too much about the gear, details and tweaks and very little;le focus on actual enjoyment of music... |
jssmith: I like your comment adding spin to the topic. Replies will need another thread on the forum. With improvements in analog and digital gear the gap is narrowing considerably. Also people are employing tweaks and room treatment which improve S.Q. . Like another issue SS vs tubes. But let’s stay on the topic regards audiophile characterisation |
rixthetrick: Sitting in the amp is stout granite block with felt in between. You cannot see the felt. It’s just to prevent vibration on the Steel plate cover . The amps are sitting on Symposium Roller block. I have since engineered and built custom rack and plinths. Also added Aurender , enlarged room and optimised with Acoustic room treatment . Just realized I need to update pics . |
I have a very good not inexpensive system. I don’t have TT/ R2R. It does not matter whether I’m called audiophile or not. I enjoy the music and very much into improving sound quality . On another topic ; I often wonder whether a TT will sound better than my Top digital kit. I’ve heard some excellent TT RIGS and I don’t miss anything. |
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douger96 posts06-18-2020 11:08pm Yes. But should someone who asks such a question be considered a troll? No, but someone who ask the OP if their a Troll, could be!!! What is a troll??? Regards... |
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See there you go again, asking a goofy question. Vinyl vs digital vs reel to reel. I’m about the digital baby. My home theater would set you straight for sure.. wanna watch a movie. Ok, bring on the Cary audio 250 watt rms per channel 105 lb bad boy please. Love those 7 independent channels. Of course I don’t want to leave out the 20k I’ve spent on new and used Shunyata power cords and conditionIng. Love my Sigma Nr, now that’s a cord worth every penny. We also don’t want to leave out the 5400 simaudio Dac with hardware Mqa decoding or the hand built music server (I built that one since, you know, I like to do those things). Now I’ll give you some advise, no matter what you own, isolate the heck out of it and then do more isolating. I use mostly finite elemental slimline, cerapuc and ceraball. They are flat amazing. Oh and don’t forget the room treatments and bass traps and... you get the message. My ocd ass has been tweaking and buying and tweaking and more buying for years. Pretty much since the 80’s. My system plays movies as loud and ferocious as anyone can take. Thanks Audio physic and the sledgehammer Jbl fathom. 2 channel will always be my first love but since I can have both in the same system why not. I must admit it would be fun to bring in a 10k vinyl rig to hear that side of things in my room but... no I hate the pops and clicks and if you were to ever hear my system you’d say why would you. I think I qualify as an audiophile. |
thecarpathian, Just so you do not think I was making it up... glupson |
