Absolutely not. Audiophiles are gadget freaks. The turntable is the ultimate gadget surpassed only by the automobile. |
Rauliruegas, I believe animal central nervous systems are analog computers. A neuron is not on or off. It can secret various amounts of neurotransmitter bases on how much it is stimulated by other neurons. This process is frighteningly slow. Electrons travel at the speed of light. Nerves conduct via charged molecules at 300 ft/sec.
I'm also afraid that many people produce and love distortion. Do you listen to Jimi Hendrix? Some manufacturers also add distortion to their electronics to get a certain sound. So, I would say "Enjoy the Music Distortion and all!" |
Raul, I was not talking about conduction down the axon. I was talking only about the conduction between neurons which occurs in the synapse by trading off charges molecules called neurotransmitters. The action potential in the neurons axon is an entirely different process which ends with the release of those neurotransmitters. Each neuron has one axon but ends in tens of synapses which communicate with other neurons. It is all a very analog process and in no way resembles digital signal processing. |
Sancho, that is an unfortunate generalization. I know several 911 owners who are great people and are always helping each other with their cars. There is also a very high rate of audiophileism in this group. Real Audiophiles like helping each other constructively with their systems and if you are honest this means pointing out some gear that was not thought out well. This is particularly true with turntables, tonearms and speakers.
You have to have a high level education to design electronic gear but I'm afraid any one can cram drivers in a box or pen a tonearm and turntable. |
Raul, where did you get a binary concept of human hearing? Inside the cochlea is an arrangement of ciliated cells that are set up very much like piano strings. When sound comes along at their intended frequency they release impulses that fire off axons in a continuous fashion. These impulses are handed off to the eight cranial nerve which travels to the parietal cortex where they are interpreted. There is absolutely nothing binary about it.
We are all audiophiles or we would not be here having this discussion.
We love music and we love the stuff that reproduces it. Take enough acid and it all sounds great.
Make Love and forget about the war part. It sucks. |
Raul, don't believe me. I'm just a peasant. Do google the human cochlea,
organ of corti and the physiology of human hearing. Neurons and all of our sensors are neither off or on. They are always somewhere in between. Off is dead. There is less active and more active. Pain is a good example. I can step on your foot and get a certain level of pain and I can take a full swing at your foot with a sledge hammer and that will get a more intense level of pain. Very analog. If I hooked you up to a DAC you would probably throw it against the wall uttering whatever four letter words you have in your native language. A few English ones might even sneak through before you try to kill me. Very typical human behavior. But please, this is just an example and I have no intention of swinging anything at you. I love your accent.
Zoophaugus, don't be a party pooper. Silly posts sometimes enact very interesting discussions. if you feel left out or somehow disenfranchised please visit another post. I'm sure you can find one to your liking.
Avsjerry, I'm not sure but I think that might make you a Pack Man.
Twoch, nobody cares. At least I think nobody cares. Lick your finger and stick it up in the air.
Geoffkait, I am totally lost.
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Avs jerry, "His excited eyes from within the dark interior glazed
Watered in appreciation of his thoughtful cleveration.
Glupson, There is no A or B. It is a continuum from dead to shrieking.
Wrong crowd? Have a look around. The Captain was right. The problem with being globalist is that most of the rest of the world is Localist. And if you step into their locality they will eat you alive.
jji666, what you have correctly stumbled over is typical human male behavior. Like baboons they shriek at each other. The last one to get hoarse gets the girl. Mike L said it himself, something like "chicks dig cool turntables." They love those 12 inch tonearms.
pcrhkr "yes" what? Everybody here started out by loving music. I think that is a given. The rest is typical human male behavior. |
"Here she comes walkin, lookin like a zoo, Hi Ella, high Ella Guru." |
Avsjerry, "His excited eyes from within the dark interior glazed
Watered in appreciation of his thoughtful cleveration."
Glupson, and anything in between. There is no A or B. It is a continuum from dead to shrieking.
Wrong crowd? Have a look around. The Captain was quite right.
jji666, what you have correctly stumbled over is typical human male behavior. Like baboons they scream at each other. The last one to get hoarse gets the girl. Mike even said it himself, something like," chicks dig cool turntables."
"Here she comes walkin, lookin like a zoo. Hi Ella, high Ella Guru." |
Nothing wrong with old equipment fleschler. My speakers were made in 1981. I still have them because nothing better has come along that I like better. My original amps finally blew so they have been changed. Preamp and phono amp are 25 years old and I have no inclination to change them. It is time for a new turntable as the wow and flutter after cleaning is a not so hot 0.30 % . I've got a new belt coming but I have a feeling that won't fix it. It owes me nothing.
I believe an audiophile is a music lover that manages his own system. A lot of people buy a system and use it. They never try new equipment or play with their gear. If something breaks they call the shop who deals with it. They are not about to care about their turntables wow and flutter and probably have no idea what that means. They also don't get sucked into directional wire and cable elevators. Only an audiophile can delude themselves into thinking that stuff works.
Boom🎆 |
Sokohgear, I said that not glupson. I also said that audiophiles like to manage their own gear. I did not say that they but new gear every five minutes. Only Mike L seems to do that. We clean and set up our own turntables, change tubes, make our own cables if we are smart audiophiles and spend more time listening to music than most people.
We also have a tendency to appreciate sports cars and bicycles. I have a new Specialized Diverge. Built it up Campy Super Record 12 speed EPS Disc with Fulcrum tubeless wheels and Hutchinson Sector 32 tires. Ugly bike , heavenly ride. My old Merlin will have to do swim suit duty.
What an FN record, The Crane Wife by the Decemberists. The whole house is bouncing 🥴 |
Glupson is the type who will order the Burmester system when he gets his Porsche. The Bose system is not good enough for him not to mention BOSE all over the door panels would be a huge embarrassment.
Personally, until Tesla makes an interior I can enjoy sitting in I'm out.
Anybody who uses a rock to scrape a trench is an audiophile. I have not been here long enough to get a handle on millercarbon. I suspect he is well intentioned.
All cartridges are balance devices to begin with. Cable length would not matter so much and the noise floor would drop if manufacturers would put balanced inputs on their units. It is happening slowly. In the mean while most of us are stuck with RCA inputs. Can you convert an RCA input to a balanced input by installation of the right jack isolating ground? Anybody know? |
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