Revisiting Chinese Knockoff Cables

I have been using the Chinese Nordost Valhalla,  it's an amazing speaker cable for the price.

I have purchased several different cables from various Chinese vendors on Aliexpress (power, interconnects, etc.) and found most  of them to offer "extreme bang for the buck".....YMMV

CHEERS...

@dekay 

I was confused when I bought the Pangea, even though common sense would dictate shorter is better. If you donn't need the extra 0.5m definitely 1.0m

tweak1:

Do you prefer the 1.0m or the 1.5m coaxial cable (this was not clear - to me)?

DeeKay

@soix 

  +1

 Do not support the Chinese regime. 

Scumbag. Fraud. Lowlife. The very definition of them all. Human manure. And you seem to be proud of scamming people

@czarivey said:

I also became quite enthusiastic of getting those wires purchased from Alibaba or DHGate way before they were owned by Ebay and made some hefty money on that!

Note the words “made some hefty money”.  Does that mean you bought these and resold them?

@brauser 

I've been mentioned here all along that hi-end cables industry has profits similar or even larger than profits of drug cartel. Well profits of drug cartel turn out to be far more humble and honest. At least they risk their blood to get those...

Funny fact that folks here asking me to provide "source" of such information LOL!!!

Don’t forget the R&D and product development upfront expenses that can obviously be considerable. 

@brauser 

100%

One of the issues cable companies face is the extreme high cost to advertise full page glossy adverts, without which, they won't be recognized by the public and certainly won't be reviewed

Meaning their profit margin is not based SOLELY on the cost of materials or manufacture

I'm sure there are a few clunker Ali-E cable companies, but the ones I purchased from are not

The profit margin for high end American Cables must be astronomical. I went for  Nordost and Kharma cables from AliExpress and the results are truly amazing.

Are the American cables better? I honestly don't care. All I know is that paying thousands of dollars for cables is just insane. American cable companies need to wake up and get real about their products. My guess is that most of what goes into American cables are from outside the country anyway. 

I would say that the state of American cable market is the equivalent of 'Professional Wrestling'.

Thanks tweak1 

hopefully no one believes they are getting a $17,000.00 Odin 2 power cord for $41.00 ...

@jl35 

Most of mine came from DIY HiFi Store, but they did not offer Odin Gold, which I bought from Goltech

Don't assume the cables are knockoffs, but the name and use of wood blocks is

If you feel good about supporting China just illegally copying and knocking off products using what is probably slave labor I guess this is great.  Not for me.  I have a bit of a conscience and just buy used cables if I can’t afford the original.  But that’s me.  Enjoy your “great deal.”

While big branded bosses moving their operation for the cheap Chinese labor, Chinese entrepreneurs and businessmen take an advantage of building the same, but for a lot cheaper and even using same materials.

Source? Again spitting stuff off your assss. So much for the OBJECTIVITY you dudes proclaim. No different than your lecture about the drug cartel and Nordost profit margins. Sad pathetic creature 🤯

I also became quite enthusiastic of getting those wires purchased from Alibaba or DHGate

Hmmmmm…. Why? If the cables make zero difference, what you repeatedly preach in 5000+ posts of yours, why not just use the FREE stock cables or lamp cord? Why spend the money and the hassle buying from Ali and paying money (they are NOT free)?

Are there non-knockoff (genuine) CN cables anyone likes better for the same price?

What's puzzling some times is why most everything investigated or praised is some kind of "knockoff" cable.  How about genuinely good well built cables from China through one of the reputable providers listed here. Are those worth mentioning too.

I boght some chinese knockoff RCA cable ends.  They had poor fit and finish but had serial numbers on them.  I got the sense that these were the ones rejected by QC.

The story behind Chinese knock-off is extremely simple and clear:

While big branded bosses moving their operation for the cheap Chinese labor, Chinese entrepreneurs and businessmen take an advantage of building the same, but for a lot cheaper and even using same materials. When I've learned about that, I also became quite enthusiastic of getting those wires purchased from Alibaba or DHGate way before they were owned by Ebay and made some hefty money on that!

Thanks...even AliExpress has multiple versions of "same" cable...

Yep, every "store" is different. I bought this one:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802201015097.html

at 1.5 m with BNC's it was about $90. I am still a bit mystified as to the design, what coax has two cables? Anyway, the results were startling.

how much was the odin coax? they seem to offer many versions of the same cable. thanks...

I have tried most of theses cables with decent results. However, the digital coax cable stood out, jaw dropping change in detail and sound stage over my other digital cables. I am still amazed it could make that much difference.