Revel F36 or Dali Oberon 7

F36 by a country mile @rwalsh07 

I cant find the F36s anymore, it would have to be the F35s.  Thoughts?  Have you heard both?

I don’t know were you live .

https://eqaudio.ca/tower-speakers/revel-concerta2-f36-tower-speakers-each/?srsltid=AfmBOoptEsMkeP1xGH9K972scIuLTk6gxqsM5HiEIlrF24DY5Na1tcf7

https://sensationmusicale.com/product/revel-f36/

Yes I have heard these two extensively and it is not even fair. The F350 is a much better speaker. More coherent, better low end picking with the room it was in a better vertical control without incessant lobing.

If you’re in the US you can get the black F36 on Crutchfield Revel F36 Black @rwalsh07

Interesting.  Maybe I’ll get both and do a side by side. I appreciate your insight!

The F36 looks like it’s available here at a 15% discount…

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/revel-concerta2-f36-floorstanding-loudspeaker-each

If you value bass impact you’ll prefer the Revels. If midrange warmth and smoothness are more important then the Dalis. Have you tried B&W 603s? Not as slammin’ as the F36 or as warm as the Obi 7, but a nice blend of both speakers’ strengths. 

I demo’s the B&Ws, they were a bit bright for my taste.  Man, this speaker chasing is tiring but fun too.  I’m on the hunt…

If you’re interested in a pair of white f36 let me know

mike 

oberons are a warm loudspeaker the revels are not

Dali soft dome vs Revel metal dome

Dave and Troy

Audio Intellect NJ

dali dealer

Vote for the Revels.  I just picked up a used pair of F35s in black.  Sweet top end and plenty of midbass punch for small tower speakers. You’ll get even more with the 36s.  I have not listened to the Dalis at home. 

I have owned the Dali OB. 7’s and now have Revel (Be series) in my main system. Whilst I have never auditioned the F series I MUCH prefer the Revel sound to the Dali’s. I had the 7’s in a second system and ended up selling them. I tried the Opticon 6 and never really warmed up to them either. I found the Dali sound to be kind of dull and too laid back for my tastes. I would say the Revel’s have a much livelier sound, not bright at all, just more “alive” and more airy and detailed. I would also agree the Revel’s have a huge edge in the bass dept.

I bought the Dali’s without auditioning figuring I loved the Dynaudio sound and both being Danish manufacturers (at the time Dynaudio was too expensive for a second system for me) figured they’d be similar but found that not to be the case…

Best of luck and remember to always enjoy the ride👍🏻

I don’t know what you’re actual expectations are but if your looking to fill a big room at reasonably high sound pressure levels w/ a full bottom end & smooth mid range & treble etc., I doubt a $2000 pair of speakers will suffice even used ones. 6” woofers simply can’t do that  job in a big room unless maybe there’s a lot of them or they have some good subs to help out. 

Well, I already purchased the Dali Oberon 7s.  They are arriving on Friday.  The plan is to do an a/b against the ML 60xti.  From there, I will return which ever ones I dont like.  The ML 60xti definitely fill up the room, they have much more output than my KEF R3 Metas, at least in my system they do.

Its sounding like I need to purchase a set of Revels as well.  I do have a couple REL TX/9s. 

Yeah, I got to make the best out of a $2K budget. 

Chiming in here as the largest DALI dealer in North America and ex Revel dealer.

The Oberon 7 are really fun musical speakers.

For DALI, we feel that the Opticon 6 mkII is the most enjoyable and musically satisfying speaker at the price point by far.  Could easily be had by any good DALI dealer (not online retailer who charges full price which includes margin that helps them supplement their return policy) for under $2,000 out the door.  Made in Denmark, not China like the Revels.  So that is a big factor as well. 

We feel like the Opticons are the first step in the "true" DALI sound. 

When you get the Oberon 7's make sure you point them straight out with barely any toe in.  I say this because when you point them truly straight out, they will look toed OUT.  The key is to toe them in SLIGHTLY so that they look "straight" when you sit in the listening position.   Please reach out to us if you need any help.  We are happy to help even if you didn't purchase from us.  We also routinely recommend customers products we do not carry, because we are not focused on always selling what benefits us, but what makes the buyer the happiest.   It sounds like BS, but we have found that this rewards us with customers who truly trust us and it pays off in the long run.  :)

ML Motion 60xti "harsh"?  Are they broken in?  Did you buy them new?  How much empty space have you got behind your listening position?  Any untreated windows behind your listening position (e.g.  windows; sliders; etc. without curtains or drapes)?  Low ceiling (e.g.  less that 7')?  The ML have AMT tweeters.  So, if you've got less than say ... 6 feet ... of empty space behind your listening position then I can understand "harsh".  In that case, I would say stay away from speakers with AMT tweeters.  Think of your sound room as one of your major components.  Everything should be properly matched in order to achieve a marriage made in heaven, if you know what I mean.  On that point, 2K for a pair of speakers that you'll like with those monoblocks is really lean, even used, and likely nonviable, new.  Haven't heard any Dali speakers.  However, after a major months' long search of serious seat-time, auditioning somewhere around 15 or 16 different pairs of speakers in the 5K & less range for a two-channel system, I decided on a pair of Revel F206 for my system and my room.  Their design is very forgiving and versatile for most sound rooms.  If you're shopping, used, I would seriously consider Monitor Audio Silver if you can find them or some of the speakers used for this review:  Schiit Audio Tyr monoblock power amplifier | Stereophile.com

I probably have 10 hours on them.  I did buy them new.  I have 15ft of space behind my listeninig position.  The speakers are 10.5 ft apart and I'm 10 ft away from them.  And yes, harsh is how I describe them.  I dont think its the tweeter alone, I believe its how the upper midrange is crossed over with the tweeter. They're just not my cup of tea.  I was heavily disappointed.  Honestly, and this is just my opinion. whoever thinks these have a smooth upper end, must be deaf. 

From what I have read, 10 hours is not nearly enough time on the Martin Logans to judge them. I have not heard the 60's but I had a pair of the 40's which is the model just below. Harsh is not a word that I would use to describe them. Smooth, detailed, nice mids and bass, and the Folded Motion Tweeter was detailed and airy. I still regret letting them go.

I'll let you know whether or not the Dali's are smoother. Definitely know by end of week.  

What did you replace the Motions 40's with?

I got a pair of revel f35’s in white for sale too. Great speakers. I have their larger brothers in my dedicated audio room

I usually don't care for either Revel or KEF unless I throw a crapton of watts at them. The Oberon line isn't going to win any science fair awards, but they do bring more fun to the music. 

Got the Oberon 7s hooked up. I like them better than 60xtis. The 60xtis are going back. Next I will get the F35s and compare them with the Oberon 7s. The winner stay and the search will be over. I’ll revisit the speaker situation in a couple years

apples and oranges. Dali is a much larger / consumer company, Reve is about 5 times smaller, audiophile focused. That means Dali is economies of scale, may be better value. But just because it's Danish it's not in a Dynaudio/Raidho/Borresen league.

gano

Dali is a much larger / consumer company, Reve is about 5 times smaller, audiophile focused. That means Dali is economies of scale ...

Revel is part of Harmon, which itself is part of Samsung. So Revel enjoys considerable benefit from economy of scale.

We’ll see what’s sounds the best to me. I’m not concerned with economies of scale, just quality of music to my ears.

I don't know if being part of has a massive impact on the economies of scale. The company culture may not (want to) change. But it sure is a factor.

I’m sure it is. The bottom line will be how they sound in comparison to each other, right? Could be oranges to apples.  Maybe I’ll like the oranges maybe I’ll like the apples as the 60xtis were to the Dalis.  I paid the same price the both. It’s a. Interesting project.