Power Cord for Pass Int 60-Under 1K used

The Coincident Statement Power Cord is excellent, get it brand new for much less than 1k. Or the Cerious Technologies Matrix PC

Instead of a power cord, why not am isolation transformer? It's what I did, and it works a treat. I use four of them, in fact.

Plitron makes a good one, but it should go outside the listening room because it growls when working. They are a manufacturer which sells to the public, bless them.

@ddafoe which TWL did you use before the Shunyata?

How did it compare?

I was using the Shunyata VTX HC which is now discontinued but was ~ $600 MSRP.   It was a big step up over the stock power cord.  I replaced it with an American 10+ and was very impressed.  I really liked the TWL as I thought it gave a very natural sound without losing any detail.  I eventually started swapping out all of my other cables (power, ICs, and speaker)  to ZTRON models and eventually found a used Alpha HC.  That's when I sold the TWL.  I found the ZTRON cables to offer excellent detail and to be incredibly balanced. It was kind of like removing another layer between me and the music.   The 7+ would have been more of a fair comparison and still cheaper, and now they offer a few higher models yet over the 7+.

Signal Cable is fantastic...I've owned it. In my experience...when I moved up the chain it got better. In this hobby...you got to trust your ears.....and stay within your budget. BTW- Audience cable aint thick...in fact its kind of skinny.

"How does a three ft section  of metal help in providing better sound quality?"

I think this is a fair question and perhaps deserves a separate thread. The response suggesting better RFI/EMI protection only addresses the shielding which almost all above average PCs should cover without the need for a firehose thickness. I use Signal Cable and for under $70 it both looks good and is very well made.   

Good stuff David...I'll check them out. Thank You

@krelldog   

If you are considering the 'SE' version, I'd get the 'SX' version in for a listen. Considered a major step up. I realize your budget but since it's one PC and it's for an integrated amp, I'd push for the best you can make happen.

I have the Pass XP-20 and Pass XA-30.8 and both respond (significantly) to power cords. I'm using the Triode Wire Labs 'The Obsession' PC. TWL has a trial and return offer...no downside and it's not that much of a stretch from your 1K limit (in this case new). Pete's a great guy to deal with and this cable is very good.

Keep us posted - krelldog
I can remember listening to the older Power Cord "e".
Happy Listening!

The demographic has obviously changed on AudiGon. Back in the day the forums were dominated by hard core Audiophiles who did anything for positive changes in their audio systems. There use to be healthy debates regarding opinions and theories....but not the haters who reject anything they deem to expensive.

@krelldog ,Yes, it has changed, and many of the old-timers left to join What's Best Forum to escape from the *gnats* who have swarmed AudiogoN in the last few years.

@ddafoe which TWL did you use before the Shunyata?

How did it compare?

I would love an Audience AU 24 SE...but even used their well north of 1K.

I just had 2 Audience Power Chords modified into Power Chord SE i's.

For the time being I'll use 1 of these. I was using on of them before the modification with great results.

I'm tempted to try one of the discontinued Voodoo cords. Their basically half price, but my whole system at this point is Audience and I'll probably stick with them.

The responses are very interesting regarding this topic. The demographic has obviously changed on AudiGon. Back in the day the forums were dominated by hard core Audiophiles who did anything for positive changes in their audio systems. There use to be healthy debates regarding opinions and theories....but not the haters who reject anything they deem to expensive. As much as I respect companies like Anti Cables and all the other cost effective companies that offer a great products for the price....it seems to have convinced people that its insane to spend more than a couple hundred dollars for wire or cords.

For the longest time I spent all my allowable audio money on gear. I didn't pay a lot of attention to cords and interconnects. Recently I've upgraded my rig and decided to go the extra mile with my cabling. Its make a huge difference...and I don't even have the best of ears. 

Thanks for all the positive responses. As always I appreciate the help the forum lends at times. Happy listening my Audio Brothers.

OP, which way are you leaning at this point? :)

I'm using the  Shunyata - Zitron Alpha HC Power Cable with my Pass X250.8; used price should be well below the $1K mark.

Before going to the Zitron Alpha cables I was using Triode Wire Labs and thought they were excellent for the price.    

@bac2vinyl 

Would someone please enlighten me here. How does a three ft section  of metal help in providing better sound quality?

The shielding of the power cord reduces Radio Frequency interference (RFI) and Electromagnetic Interference (EMI). In doing so, it reduces the noise in the audio. 

Some cables can and do change the sound of the audio quality by impedance mismatch and lack of proper inductance characteristics. And several other electronic variables. 
 

Purist audio canorus or dominus or kimber pk10 palladian great on amps

Power Cables according to Galen Carol:
https://www.gcaudio.com/tips-tricks/why-power-cables-make-a-difference/

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Would someone please enlighten me here.

Sorry, you have to put in your own work here.

How does a three ft section  of metal help in providing better sound quality?

I can't answer that, as all of my power cords are 1.5 meters or longer. ;^)

Would someone please enlighten me here. How does a three ft section  of metal help in providing better sound quality? Electricity runs hundreds of feet through your house via copper wire after running miles and miles through other wire, how does adding three feet, of gold, silver, or whatever to the end of that run make a difference? Not being a smart ass, just don't quite understand. 

This is an EASY answer: Silent Source. Frank Dickens, the owner of SS works closely with Pass Labs on all things power/ power supply related. His cables are what they use to voice their equipment. Yes, I own them (SS cables and cords) and I love them, but that’s not the point of my post. Use what Pass uses. You should be able to find one used but even new they are reasonable. 

What @audioman58 said....^^^^^^^^^^
The Pangea AC9SE MKii meets all the qualities of an excellent power cord except price.

It has the proper shielding, huge 7 AWG, the proper cable twist, it’s OFC, using Cardas grade cooper.
Instead of bragging on how much money you wasted on a Power cord get a quality made cable for $300 and save the rest of your money.

These are excellent cables!

You guys should put model and $$ price you paid.

A lot if guys use the new Audio advisor  Pangea power cord which is a awg7 gauge  using Cardas best 6-9 Copper and uses Gold over solid Copper connections  very very good and for under $300 with a 30 days money back
Worth trying  the Sig mk-2 version.

You trust designers to choose the correct parts and correct designs, but question their choices of power cords. That is an example of absolute lubacy.

A relatively low-cost pc that brings an extraordinary organic (but 100% neutral) quality to Solid State amplifiers is made by Luna Cables. They were all over the recent Montréal Audio Show. For almost a year now I have used their $1200 entry-level orange PC on my solid state amps and/or integrateds in a cable loom where the next cheapest cable is $7k (please don’t judge). My gear was mainly Luxman (from 590x, to mononlocked m-600s, to m-900u) with a few other brands brought in for auditions. Anyways, this pc is remarkable in this use. I found most other PCs changed the balance or essential sound profile of the amplifiers. The company Luna has a kinda “organic, all-natural” philosophy and I find it really comes across in this PC. Helps the amp just be better at what it does best in an organic / liquid way. Good luck with the search.

Krelldog - or do I address you a-- PassDog now? :)

i have an Int-60 and use a Shunyata Venom HC and it is better than the stock PC. I burned in the amp and then listened with the stock cord / then the Shunyata - easy to hear and all positive (Shunyata better).

I used the Shunyata because I already owned it, so can not comment on performance or comparisons to others. Point is that it makes a noticeable improvement (in my admittedly limited experience). I also like it better plugged into my Shunyata Hydra vs straight into the wall.

I hope you enjoy the amp - I have had mine about two years and really love it.

There are a gazillion after-market power cords, made by large corporations and lonely individuals, from under $100 to many thousands of $$.  No one has tried them all in all possible systems.  So you try a few which seem to have a good rep. or about which people have reported good results with similar equipment.  These days I'm liking the look of Cullen cords Crossover II PC's.  But hey, that's just an internet opinion.

Thank you, John.

Still here for another week.  Not so cold where I'm going.  Believe it or not, but Vancouver has a lot of palm trees.  Not native, of course, but they survive well enough

You could try transparent premium cords for abiut $600 new. I use them with my devialets and all my other equipment.

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Most of my power cords are Zu Audio. They are about $150, depending on the length & they sound great. No 50% dealer mark up, because they sell direct. 

I am a fan of Audio Magic cords, regardless of what the anti-cable ankle biters spout. *rolleyes*

@krelldog  -  

I have an excellent 2 meter Tara Labs AC Reference cable you are welcome to for waaaay less than $ 1k  !  ( I actually have 3 ! )  and deserves being reunited with Pass equipment .  ($100 ).  PM for pix and info if interested. 

Shad 

@krelldog , @trelja , thank you for the very kind remarks, I am humbled.

Joe, have you left the Philly area for the Great White North yet?
Safe travels.

I've had very good results from the Clarus Crimson high current power amp cords. 

I've owned and auditioned multiple $$$$ after market pc's.The most accomplished in my system,and not your flavor of the month,are Joseph Chows Audio Horizons pc and the Silver Ghost by Mark Tunis.

@alucard19, I am intrigued by the Maze Audio power cords. Read through their web site. I have spent more building cables than what these cost. I will try one soon. Thanks for the recommendation. 

 These are the power cords that I use, very well made. MAZE AUDIO Ref4 Krell Cryo Power Cords
Audio Power Cables

Previously used Tekline Reference on 250.5. Excellent cord. Almost impossible to find now. Very popular in an old thread on Pass amps 

@tom_hankins +1 on the Kubala-Sosna's if they can fit into the budget.

Personally, I'd also listen to what @jmcgrogan2 recommends, as I trust his experience and judgment

The Kubala-sosna's are very good power cords. For less the DH labs Red Wave or reference line from signal cable.

JMcGrogan2....don't you quit too. I always look forward to your expertise and wisdom.

I appreciate all the suggestions. I really do respect all opinions relating to this crazy hobby. I started 30  years ago with an Akai integrated amp and a Pair of Bose 901 series VI. My first real high end purchase was a Phillips CD 880 probably in 1988 give or take a year or two. I actually still have that CD player...one of the most stunning Cd players I've ever seen.

With that said....I don't hate on guys with 500.000 systems...nor do I look down on new audiophiles with small budgets. This hobby is all about overkill. Leave no stone unturned. There is great sound to be had at every price point. Recently I bought a PS Audio P-10. Paul McGowan the owner/CEO/Audio legend is unequivocal in his opinion that upgraded power cords make a difference. He recommends that you upgrade the cord for all of his products, and its not like he's just trying to sell you one of his cords. I recently watched (and I highly recommend it) Michael Fremer on Youtube showing off his audio gear and record collection. In this video Fremer is very blunt about the benefits of after market power cords.

Folks... were all chasing the same thing. In my situation I'm retired and I decided to put together an audio system I can enjoy and leave alone. I've accomplished that and I'm just putting the final touches on a lot of truly great gear.

Happy listening my audio brothers.

I don't think they are illiterate. Instead, they are somewhat like fundamentalist religious proselytizers except here, they see themselves as the actual Savior.

Not to mention very sensitive. I suppose my post upset one of our "Saviors", as the moderators had my post deleted.
Your post may be next @cleeds , then I'm sure this one will follow.

No wonder so many members have left this forum for What's Best Forum.

It never fails does it? The fundamentalists never mention what equipment or room they have do they? I have never used them in my systems but have read good things about Shunyata power cords. I use Transparent myself. 

Do not use a stock cord. So much cable material and connectors available, one can build an excellent cable. I have built many, using different types of wires, and connectors, as I can get the flavor that I want. You want to spend up to 1 K, go ahead, it is your money. This will be all from me on the subject. Enjoy !

jmcgrogan2

I noticed that as well... my thought was those respondents were illiterate.
Though perhaps you are correct, the naysayers are compulsive reactors, unable to control themselves, but not illiterate.

I don't think they are illiterate. Instead, they are somewhat like fundamentalist religious proselytizers except here, they see themselves as the actual Savior.  Or perhaps they are just trolls. There's no way to know for sure.

Very happy with Cerious Graphene Extreme Blue on Pass X250.8

I second Noromance suggestion of BLE Designs el cheapo power cords, I bought at least 3 of them and they are astounding value for money, less than $50 each if I remember right.
I still have them and use them but I also make my own now.

+1 jmcgrogan2

PK10 Palladian or NBS Master or Pro IV.