I built my own using Furutech components. It was fun and I could make custom lengths.
Power Cables - Third Party or OEM
For the conversation let's say I am an Isotek or Shunyata user of their Power Conditioners. Both OEM's have an excellent selection of power cords for the conditioner as well as to other components like amps, DAC's, phono stages, etc. Is there a benefit to using the Isotek or Shunyata cables or going with a third party like Cardas or Nordost power cable?
This seems like an engineering discussion versus a listening discussion. The OEM's know their Power Conditioners so that is where i'm stumped. I, like some others here like uniformity and having all their cables from the same manufacturer. Thanks in advance for your input.
as long as you're not using crappy OFC wire which some of the most expensive wire companies use that's junk use OCC single crystal round wire or OCC single crystal rectangular wire which is even better than the round either silver or copper will be very good much better than the OFC stuff at any price they charge. |
I believe the actual equipment you are powering has a good deal to do with which power cable you choose and maybe more. Not just the conditioner, etc. In powering my Schiit Yggy LIM DAC I tried WyWires, Kimber, heavy gauge basic AC cable, Tara Labs, Audioquest and a couple others. The older (maybe 10-15 years) Audioquest (long grain copper, (forgot the model but was about $80) made the Yggy sound fantastic. Almost every cable slightly changed the sound quality (some were bright, overemphasized highs, etc) and the only seeable difference in the Audioquest is that it had a ferrite core around the cable. None of the others had one so it’s possible the DAC just needed that filtering. I do believe that the longer grain copper is also great but the Furutech had PCOCC so that’s not the only valuable area. |
It's not an engineering discussion, it's a marketing discussion. Of course an OEM will recommend their power cords and not the competition's. The oldest marketing pull is trying to convince consumers that using one brand's product (whether it's recipe ingredients or auto parts) is superior to mixing and matching. It works. |
Electricity is indifferent wrt brand names so you don’t need to pay big money, unless you want to, of course. What makes a good power cable?
If you don’t want to DIY from raw materials, several well-respected cable manufacturers sell bulk power cord cable that has most or all of the attributes listed above and that can function and sound excellent when constructed with good quality connectors (i.e., Furutech and others). |
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@akgwhiz check out VHAudio. Chris is super nice and gives automatic discounts. I made long runs of speaker cables with Furutech wire and spades and heat shrink that came out great looking and sounding. I bought a Ryobi battery 18v heat gun, and it transformed my work from smoke stained heat shrink (bic lighter) to nice looking (heat gun). It was fun. I like to solder, but PC's connect with screws anyway I think. |
@fastfreight You are 100% correct! Just plug the power amp into a wall! I am also a Kubala Sosna fan as well. |
@erik_squires I'm getting more into DIY now as I'm retired. Do you have a site I can reference that outlines a decent quality build/how-to? Thanks in advance. |
Could be hit or miss. While using the same brand cables as the conditioner may sound logical, I’d place the priority on choosing cables that possess the sound characteristics you’re looking for in the context of your system and then choose a conditioner from there. Plus, relatively few cable manufacturers make power conditioners so requiring both to be the same brand will greatly reduce your cable options. Just my $0.02 FWIW. |
@erik_squires This forum needs a "like" button.
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I believe in synergy and would want as much the same as possible. That said, I think I would start by trying different power cables, even bypassing the power conditioner so you know what your are hearing. Pretty hard to try several power conditioners, but maybe not. I had a nice conditioner and took it out. My amps like straight to the wall so I went that way with dedicated lines (4) and no power conditioner. I am a Kubala Sosna fan, and they only recommend their Expander if you need more outlets. Oh sorry, the answer to your question was yes :) but are those the cables you like? |
I have found that most Power conditioners work best with their own power cables. I believe that when they develop the products, they use them with their own products. I guess that does mean though that other cables might work just as well, but it can be a crap shoot. I base this on my experience with my AudioQuest Niagara 7000, the Dragon Power cords performed better than any other cable I tried. Just my 2c worth... ozzy |