Power cable Advice...

It is comforting for some, to know, with certainty, in an uncertain, random, and capricious world.

"$1500 per cable gets you midfi cables. You a are better off putting that money into a 4500 pair of speaker cables."

The above is just the sort of statement that gives audiophiles a bad reputation

"$1500 per cable gets you midfi cables. You a are better off putting that money into a 4500 pair of speaker cables."

The above is just the sort of statement that gives audiophiles a bad reputation

Well he's a football guy, he failed to notice that the OP was using Valhalla's, and he used the word "beat" more than once. It's all about winning in football! You don't win you lose! At least he into hifi, and believes in cables.

I'm sure the other jocks give him a hard time 😉

Classic nothing but rocks in the head's post got deleted. What a shame. 

@rodman99999 👍

I run a loom of Furutech 4.1 terminated with the Fururtech's best connectors for my power cables.  They are fast, detailed and dynamic.  And I'm not compensating, don't need to.

Well if you are listening with lower end gear then cables will make no difference at all. That is why ASR/Amirs reviews and measurements mean nothing as the gear is all cheap garbage. @classicrockfan you are just here to make trouble, please head on back to ASR with your ilk!

@classicrockfan we can give you some snake oil before you head back to ASR so you can give Amir a nice rub. 

You got me all wrong. It took me almost 6 months to build my own monoblocks using the finest components possible Probably the finest power amplifier in the world (very "subjective" i know). Pure classA 200w/8ohm/channel, 400w/4ohm, each block weighs 100 pounds. Someone I knew in the field built a pair of speakers for me probably the finest loud speakers in the world. Unlike these oily trolls I'm here to help people stop wasting money...then again i'm not a man on a mission

Well if I had the best amplifier in the world, and matched it with the finest speakers in the world, I would probably just use lamp cord too. 

Any heavy gauge, well-made power cable will do. Cost is not proportional to sound quality. Don't be suckered.

Grover Huffman Pharoah is a phenomenal power cable that I have in my reference system on my JC1 monoblocks as well as on my Puritan power conditioner.  They were around 750 bucks each for 6 feet, I think.

"The Finest In the World. Probably."

My goodness. :)

Oh, and @jaymarkj  I've got some Grover IC's and have used his speaker cables- fine stuff indeed.

Here is another suggestion:

Audio Envy make good power cords that are very flexible and light weight, and I like the results.

https://audioenvy.com/store/

Anyone here that tells you it will make a difference is either lying, or willfully ignorant. Put your money towards something that actually makes a difference and matters, and shame on whoever told you otherwise. 

Shunyata .

Update: Following countless hours of research, I made a few purchases on the used market all for < 5k

Power amp - AQ 1M HC Dragon

Preamp - AQ 1M HC Hurricane

Digital -    AQ 1M Source Hurricane

This was a great thread!

Nice and congrats!!! 

Hey squared80, did you just wake up from a 40 year coma?  The debate about cables making a difference was closed decades ago.  Get out and experience the world and then your comments might become more meaningful.  And watch out for the snake oil salesmen over on ASR.  That guy doesn’t know the difference between a tape measure and a slide rule.

Thank you audphile1 😀

My reasoning is as follows: If you have bad water passing thru rusty municipal pipes which is treated in the last 5 feet of your under sink filter system, is this going to improve your health?

@derekw_hawaii  Why yes you are, or the tap water is going to be safer. I also do not want to live where they use iron pipe for drinking water. 

OP,

Great deal. No question great choice. I have no doubts you’ll hear a great improvement. 

derekw_hawaii

If you have bad water passing thru rusty municipal pipes which is treated in the last 5 feet of your under sink filter system, is this going to improve your health?

During the two week rafting trip down the Colorado River - through the Grand Canyon - we drank water only from the river - lots of it. No doubt the river was hugely contaminated with viruses, bacteria, protozoa, waste products and who knows what else. Thanks to the last 5 inches of the reverse osmosis pump filter, nobody got sick - ever. I did that paddle trip twice. The power to my audio system is filtered also.

@steakster 

Yes, great trip isn’t it. Good memories.

@ghdprentice

Yes, great trip isn’t it. Good memories.

Spectacular in every way! Many long hikes into the side canyons to some very exotic locales. Flipped in Lava Falls - and got stuck in an underwater eddy. A good test to see how long I could hold my breath.

 and got stuck in an underwater eddy

Eddy currents not good. OP is hoping there are no eddy currents. Especially in the last 5 feet. 

@steakster

Yes my trip down was very similar… lots of water fights. But we stayed in the boats. That seemed safer.

Last week several Monosaudio 902 Power cables arrived for connection to power amps, Electrocompaniet AW250R and Accuphase P-4200 in bi-amp mode.

I made a two outlet receptacle from two Furutech FP-SWS(G) into a PVC box with Furutech inlet cable, internal cables are SPC 10 AWG Teflon.

Cable loom Equitech 1.5Q -> Monosaudio 902 2  x 2m to the above box, then 1m 902 cables to each power amplifier.

By necessity for 230V system, use the euro connectors, since a wide choice is available, rather than the std AU plugs.

Not a night and day difference between Furutech FP-314Ag-II, with some notable exceptions:

- Bass sounded a bit thin, left running for a few days and became 'articulate' with not so much boom and thunder, actually real bass with accuracy to boot.

- Soundstage was a little deeper front to back about 0.5m

- Treble much the same, not too overbearing or in your face. It's easier to hear that high hat ringing.

The Monosaudio 902 cable has two layers of foil, one around each core, and the other around the three cores. This should suppress any noise that the the cables runs adjacent to standard power cabling.

For my climate, copper shielding is not great as it tarnishes with the humidity. The cable size is 5.5 sqmm, about 10AWG conductors, the cable is about 5/8, 17mm diameter, has its own mind where it wants to go, so lay this flat for a day or so to iron out the curves.

They are very well made, the packaging is plain cardboard, so nothing fancy, Made in China that have been around for 17 years or so, at least they have a website. Probably OEM for other cable makers.

I didn't want to spend too much on power cables, for the money made a very good improvement, very happy with them, and recommended to place on the short list.

@jaymark how are the Grover Hoffman Pharaoh's on the Atma-Sphere Digitals?

 Check out my 4 power cords comparison video. Click times (18:53 WTPC),   (4:46 JPS) to hear different cables. More time marks are in comment section.  Alex/WTA