Nine days ago I placed 3 Emats in my friends system. 1 Mat each on the breaker box 40 ft from his audio system and the others on his dac and transport. The system was on when I arrived and he told me it had been spinning for a couple of hours..I had listened to these same components many time before and was never at ease at how the music made me feel. I brought music that I had just listened to on my home system and then listened to the same music on my friends system prior to placing the Emats as stated above. Same physical sensation...not at ease and not relaxed.
After placing the mats and playing the same music..within a minute or two I was now relaxed and at at total ease. Wow the turn around in how the music made me feel was amazing. No longer were my eyes and head moving around nor was body aimlessly wandering around on the chair in search of all the musical parts coming together. Now what I saw and heard was in much better alignment and symmetrical form. And yes I was toe tapping..but in no time at all I found myself nodding off..all of this with new found details in the music. Amazing how the Emats enhance the musical experience almost as if I were surrounded by calm waters at the Captiva beach.
Okay that was day 1 now to day 9 or even before. My friend called to tell me his wife and daughter took notice that the 3 TVs in their house were much brighter and more colorful and less grainy than before the installation of the Emats.The only Mat of the 3 that could have made an impression on the flat screens was the Mat on the breaker panel .They also made positive comments on the sound system and one was caught playing air guitar..never before. Next day after that visual was announced the same 2 women complained to my friend that he needed to turn the electric water heater down as the water was way to hot. An Emat placed on an audio component would have no impact on an electric water heater but may if there was a Mat attached to the breaker panel. I think there will be many more common devices and surfaces that will benefit with the placement and use of the Emat.Tom
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I placed my one E-Mat to the upper half of my 200 amp service. Is there any significant benefit to putting an E-Mat to the lower half of the service where the breakers are located?
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rc ... I'd do mine all at once. That way they can break in together, plus you'll get the maximum effect all at once in the SQ department. That would be fun.
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Frank, Tim,
Back to audio. I am thinking of placing the new “Smaller” pads, when released, on my 2 power strips and 2 power conditioners on each system. My question is, do you think I should do them all at once or in any particular order?
Thanks,
rc |
Frank,
FYI, my fridge IS maintaining a colder temperature. The fresh vegetables froze two weeks in a row. I did not put the Mat and freezing together initially but I thought I remembered an earlier post and you were right. I will raise the temperature, like you suggested.
Thanks,
rc |
For those of you who have the Omega E Mats ... put one under your power conditioner. I did just that last night. Initially, it degraded the sound ... there was less there there. Upon listening this morning, everything was back and then some. Wow!
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I have now placed 11 E-Mats in my system. It's strange that when I placed 1 additional E-Mat after 10 under my CD player, subpanel box and power transformer, the sound became slightly muddled. I decided to leave no.11 on top of the power transformer, with one under and now two covering the large top. After 1 day I listened again and the muddled sound was absent; instead, replaced with even more focused sound, more of what Kedoades heard with only his 2 mats. Amazing! |
I placed my 2nd mat in the breaker box. 1st mat is under the power conditioner |
kedoades, Where did you place your second mat? |
So I now have 9 days on my 2nd mat and there is more improvement. The 1st thing I noticed after a few hours of placing the 2nd mat there was more bass. Gradually after a few days of the mat settling in I have noticed that not only has the soundstage again gotten a little taller and wider it has also expanded to where it sounds like it is going farther behind the speakers and my rooms walls. And yes even more detail in the music and more natural sound. I love these e mats. |
I have tried and owned several Bybee products for my Audio system. I do find the Omega E Mat to have a greater positive effect on my music enjoyment. Like several other posters on this thread , I have found the Mat to improve the sound over the course of several weeks. I also agree that several Mats placed in a system adds progressive improvement.
Over the course of the last two years of careful equipment evaluations, I have found that major audible improvements can be obtained with upgrading to Synergistic Research Blue Fuses, Synergistic Research wall outlets, Total Contact, and finally and importantly the Omega E Mat.
The magnitude of improvement using these devices is significant and is greater than when I switch out my Pass Lab Amplifier for the Art Audio Tube Amplifier.
David Pritchard |
I don't have Bybee AC Bullet and E Mat, so E Mat is more effective than Bybee? |
Oops, VPI TNT VI not a IV. |
Wow! What a concert! That was a real tight bluegrass group. The place was packed and every foot was tapping. Nothing like live music to get things into perspective.
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Caution...drastic exuberance. The 666 prior posts made me do it. : ) |
I removed the VPI ring outerclamp soon after I got it. It dulled the sound. I kept the VPI heavyweight clamp though on my TNT VI. LPs sound better with it. More focused and solid sounding. I want to try even more elaborate clamps such as Stillpoints. I traded for a copper ring outerclamp from a Canadian manufacturer whose name I forgot. It is better than the VPI but similar overall effect except on truly warped discs. I use it on those discs where it has a marked benefit.
Frank and my LP tables are as different as night and day. His is a well tempered with associated arm, while mine is the mentioned TNT IV with an modified SME IV. |
- Uh, if the clamp hurts the sound it’s crap.
Uh, I’m thinking that maybe all record clamps may be "crap." How would one know unless the noise floor was lowered to the point where you could actually hear the "crap?" Look, I’m not talking about a small reduction in the noise floor here, I’m talking about a DRAMATIC reduction. _____________________________________________________________________________ Tonight should be fun. Robert and I are going to a house concert to hear a fantastic blue grass group live. It should be a DRAMATIC amount of fun. :-) Frank |
Uh, if the clamp hurts the sound it’s crap.
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Geoff ...
Hopefully you’ve read Fleschler’s last post by now.
These Omega E Mats are cumulative in nature. Its not surprising at all that certain things are revealed by them as the noise floor drops to a more DRAMATIC level. That would include the removal of a turntable clamp. Oh, and the clamp is hardly "crap" as you described it. Are you still indulging in the Christmas cheer? :-)
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Jafreeman ...
I feel the same as you. After tweaking the system over the years with a multitude of tweaks, nothing has even come close to what Total Contact and the Omega E Mats have done for the SQ. The improvement has been DRAMATIC. :>)
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Jafreeman,
This has been some of the most fun I have had with all the tweaks I have tried and purchased. There seems to be a synergy with all existing equipment and tweaks in both of my systems with absolutely no negatives.
Have fun,
rc
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I installed 4 more E-Mats several days ago (paid for 12, have 10 now installed). I doubled the direct equipment only power panel, doubled the Bit20 (with one on top and one under), doubled the EAR Acute CD player and tripled the pre/phono under. For the first 20 minutes, I wasn't satisfied with the sound, jazz was sounding too forward and just not right. After an hour, the sound calmed down and then I began noticing the difference. First, the dynamics and soundstaging grew bigger. Unusual miking of instruments on one CD had a triangle hit outside of the mix to the left of the left speaker, like it was added later. It was always in the mix within the soundstage previously. Separation of instruments and singers is greater. Percussion and bass are cleaner/more detailed. The music sounds more organic if there is such a phrase applicable to the sound. While I could easily live with 6 E-Mats, 10 are better, just like 12 were better at Franks' place.
The price of an early pressed RCA LS of the the Shafran Shotavovich/Schubert LP has been $1000+ I didn't think my latest CD copy made it sound so special that it was worth anywhere near that. After the first 6 E-Mats were installed, I was thrown for a loop. The CD sounded spectacular. Now I can understand why the LP garners such high prices. It's that way with the several dozen LPs and CDs I've heard since installing 10 E-Mats. More spectacular sound from previously good recordings that did not show their true quality. |
Drastic is not really the word you were looking for. Perhaps dramatic. Perhaps another synonym of dramatic. Perhaps pronounced. But not drastic. Besides, by your own words you’ve been using that crap record clamp for what, like forever? Hopefully, most people would not (rpt) have to invest in red fuses, black fuses, blue fuses, TC, and umptyump mats before they could hear how crappy their clamp is. I certainly wouldn’t admit it. Carry on. 🕺
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geoff ... - "The drastic lowering of the noise floor? Whoa! Dude!"
You’d have to hear it to believe it. Send a PM to Fleischer and ask him what his results have been. "Drastic" is a very appropriate term to describe what these two products will to for an audio system. Frank |
Has anyone heard an update on the mini mees? Tim intimated they would be 1/10 size, effect and cost. Really would love to try some but not sure what the product release date is. |
The drastic lowering of the noise floor? Whoa! Dude!
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With the drastic lowering of the noise floor due to the TC and the Omega E Mats, I’ve discovered a couple of things that improved the system even further. 1. I now leave the record clamp off of my turn table. Its more open and dynamic without it. 2. I have a large built-in curio cabinet in the adjoining dining room. If I leave one of the doors to the cabinet open, I get a more transparent open sound with an improvement in bass defintion. None of the above was revealed prior to using these two products. ______________________________________________________________________________________ Music recommendation: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Howard-Roberts-w-BUDDY-COLLETTE-CD-Jazz-Loves-Paris-1991-Out-of-Print/19216...This is some really great jazz by some of the giants. Very musical and great sounding. Frank |
Yes but that does not bump your post count ever upwards does it?
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@amg56, no need to write another post clarifying any typo's or mistakes. Simply click on the little gear icon in the top right of your post. You have 30 minutes after posting to fix, add, subtract or rewrite. So, one little click and Bob's your uncle!
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Whaaa? Was that an 🍑🎩 that just flew by?
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aagh I need a new keyboard.... |
Thanks @resolution1 @oregonpapa GK is ok when he wears his colander in his head :) I'll be reading with interest when the mini-me mats are reviewed. Hopefully they might have mini-me prices! |
Rc, congrats on bringing out the best in your system. I agree with all of your descriptions. There is such a quiet background now that reveals the reverberant decay of vocals recorded with the ambience of a large hall.
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It has been more than three weeks since I placed the mat on the rear of the breaker panel door and the only word that comes to mind is WOW 🤯 The music is just beautiful.
Notes are more fully fleshed out. Details that we’re uncovered at the beginning of the TC and the first mat are now much more integrated into the musical whole.
Dynamics are also incredible and more life like without turning up the volume. Having said that, I did turn up the volume ever so slightly and the music became more powerful without any strain to the system. This has been recently reported and I experienced the exact same thing.
A huge and clear soundstage with the afore mentioned detail also opened up further.
It it has also been reported that even marginal cds are sounding good. That has been my experience as well. I hear more musical detail, that I thought was irritating noise, that is now better defined and part of the performance.
To me, these two mats have been incredibly effective in making the music much better in my system for a very reasonable cost.
Prayers to those of you fighting ailments.
Rc
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One assumes you learned your keen sense of humor from Jim Rohn. 🤡
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amg56 ...
That was a wonderful post all the way around. Thanks so much. We have to be careful with the emotional stuff though. Before you know it, we'll have Geoff spewing his Budweiser all over our monitors. :-)
By the way Geoff ... friends don't let friends drink Budweiser. *lol*
Frank |
@tommylion Thanks for the explanation of how reviews are selected in the mags. I suppose it makes sense that we, the consumer, pay via elevated prices on products for the manufacturer to pay a mag to review a product. I would have thought a review for public benefit or interest would have been an inclusion, but flipping back through the odd audio mags I read while "on the pot", it seems the only public interest is the letters to the editor. @nkonor I sympathise, and empathise with you. I am so sorry to hear of your plight. It amazes me to read posts by individuals, try to imagine what they look like, but never think of their personal wellbeing. I hope/pray your condition does not worsen. I would be able to afford a few mats and some TC if it wasn't for the cost of the drugs and constant stays in hospital! @oregonpapa Do not go too close to induction cooktops. These ARE powerful and CAN effect pacemakers and some metallic implants. It was my own specialist who warned me after I joked about it. He was very serious. I recall visiting my grandmother who lived 500 miles away, just after my end of school exams, and I was as nervous as heck about my pass mark so I could go to Uni. She was a lady of the land and she said "Worry is like a rocking chair. It keeps you occupied but does get you anywhere". A very wise old lady who I miss. My own parents just turned 94 and had their 70th wedding anni. I hope I am able to emulate them as Jen and I have just had our 40th. 30 to go! |
I think I have a lump in my throat. No, wait. Never mind, it was some Budweiser. |
Jim Rohn is an insperation...
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^^^ grannyring ... I wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. I've been a follower of this gentleman most of my working life in sales. I hope you explore his teachings and get as much out of it as I have over the years. https://www.investivate.com/jim-rohn-inspirational-quotes/Take care ... Frank |
Frank wrote..... “Why? Because discipline weighs ounces ... regret weighs tons.”
What a great thought and thank you for it! Very well said. |
nkonor ...
I’m sorry about your situation. It sucks.
To answer your question ... nope, I’m not going to tape an Omega E Mat to my chest.
The older I get, the more I realize that life itself is terminal. Human life is a natural cycle. None of us is getting out of it alive ... and we all leave life in our own way.
I look at my four grandchildren, and my three great grandchildren and realize that we old duffers have to get out of the way to make room for the new generations. Nature takes care of that for us. Believing in a glorious afterlife seems to help. :-)
The key is not how much one acquires in life, but in the quality of the relationships one leaves behind. Also important is to lead a disciplined life. Why? Because discipline weighs ounces ... regret weighs tons.
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Frank,
Well, since you danced around the question; I will ask again. Since there seems to be no danger; Are you going to try an E mat taped to your chest???? All reports seem to indicate that increased performance can be expected. Not only advancing HEA but also medical science.
For medical science and improving the rest of your life; should be worth a try. You could use an elastic wrap instead of tape.
Forget the TC; you blew that. You can still use the mats though. You should try 2-3 on both your chest and 2-3 on your back.
Since I was diagnosed with an incurable disease in Sept 2017. It is quite amazing what you are willing to do. The drug that has a 68% chance of prolonging my life is very hard on my immune system. My second infusion; Kicked my butt for six weeks before my system started to recover with the help of more drugs. Now, I do not need to sleep 14-16 hours a day. 7-9 and a nap in the afternoon is not too bad.
Next infusion is in November. Hope I make it.
Be Well
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Is this mat only ship to us and canada? I am in hong kong and it said this item does not ship to my location |
^^^ ... nkonor ...
Thanks for your concern. Its much appreciated.
When Al raised the question in a previous post about magnets and their effects on pace makers, I took one of the Omega E Mats into my cardiologist and explained the uses for the mats and the fact that I have a lot of drivers in my speakers, which of course means more exposure to magnets.
The cardiologist told me that the warnings in the after surgery instruction booklets are over the top, written by corporate lawyers, just to avoid any possibility of litigation. As an example, the booklet tells you not to put your cell phone in a shirt pocket that is near the pacemaker.
The cardiologist told me that the only way to affect a pacemaker negatively with magnets, would be to put a powerful magnet ... much more powerful than what these mats and speakers could generate, directly on the pacemaker itself. So, in other words, there is no concern of screwing up the pacemaker with handling the Omega E Mats or standing in front of stereo speakers.
I personally thanked Al for his concern in a PM. :-)
Excellent question though ...
Frank
PS: I’m kind of sorry I didn’t take a tube of Total Contact into the surgery room with me and instructed the surgeon to paste the connections that hook the wires up from the veins to the pacemaker. I’ll bet I would have ended up with the most efficient pacemaker on the planet ... and a great sounding heart beat to boot. . *lol* |
Frank,
Didn't you recently have a pacemaker put in you? If so; are you going to tape a couple of mats to your chest? |
^^^ uberwaltz ... I just had a conversation with Fleischer and he reminded me of something. We are both experiencing having to lower the volume control on our audio systems. The great dynamics and musicality remain. So, I'm assuming that it means more efficient use of electricity there as well. I'm going to try the "pint sized varmints" too. One place I'm going to try them in, is the inside cover of my Sound Application power conditioner. I'll try to place some around the twelve sockets too. I'd paste the inside of the cover with TC too, but I'm out of product now.
Sound Application power conditioner with upgraded receptacles: http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/soundapplication_xe12s.htm
Frank |
Frank I did not miss the humour at all. Just commented that in general common sense appears to be the least common of all senses.
Still waiting for Tim to release the pint sized varmints! |
djones51 sez ... - "I know nothing about these mats so I am not commenting on them. I am assuming that licensed electricians and local inspectors have signed off on placing these mats inside panel boxes? Are these placed behind the dead front?"
No, I have mine placed just inside the circuit breaker box exterior door. Nothing is on the breakers themselves. With that said, there are those here who have pasted their circuit breaker’s connections with "Total Contact" with outstanding effects and used electricians to help out. I think one or two guys have done it themselves, but then they have the skill sets to do it. Personally, I’d get an electrician to do anything beyond the breaker box door. But that’s just me. I don’t like major voltages ... and they don’t like me. Frank |
^^^ david_ten ...
I know David .. and when you think about it, that was 15 seconds of electricity I didn’t have to use. Multiply that by all of the household appliances ... the fans (its hot here), the TV, the refrigerator, the microwave, etc. That would account for the drop in the electric bill. I can only imagine the savings if one were to use air conditioning. Over time, I believe the mats would pay for themselves.
In thinking about it, I wonder what the savings would be if these mats were used in a large office building, or say in a hospital where air conditioning is used constantly? They have huge circuit breaker panels, so it would take a lot of mats ... or maybe just one large one? :-)
I think if I were a much younger guy and not breaking down physically, I’d work out a deal with Tim to rep these mats to businesses ... on a strictly commission basis of course. Now THAT would be a lot of fun for sure.
Ah geeze ... now I have my salesman juices going again. Its time for more coffee and watching the news. *lol*
Frank |