Machina Dynamica New Dark Matter CD and Blu Ray tray treatment?

Everything you need to know about NDM is on my main web page, top of the page. 

"Geoff questioned my first language as English at one time..."

geoffkait questions many things, except his own claims. You could say he is a pseudo-skeptic.

Toot-toot!

glupson ROFLMAO, but NDM is the real deal

Why is it double sided adhesive??

The active NDM material, the small Super-thin squares, is not adhesive so Super-thin double-sided adhesive is necessary to attach the NDM to the upper surface of the CD tray. Total thickness NDM + double-sided adhesive less than 1/32”. Bingo Bango Bongo!

Indeed the NewDark Matter with the adhesive paper to attach the Squares is super thin and Easy to apply. A 10 minute project at maximum. 
I continue to be impressed with the improvement after installation that my Oppo 203 DVD player is showing.
added bonus- there is no break in time and the Dark Matter Squares are not directional!
David Pritchard

Not directional? That is very suspicious.

Well, they are directional, aren't they? Top surface absorbs; bottom surface does not. Lol

So I received the kit in the mail over the weekend. I was going to initially use the kit with my Oppo Blu-ray SE-83 front-loader player. I bit the bullet and applied the kit to my Jay’s Audio CDT2 MK2 top-loader CD transport instead. The listening sessions are ongoing.

@celander, so what are your listening impressions??

What, he asked of Audiogon's reigning physicist, is a "Quantum well"?

That’s a deep subject.

A quantum well is a potential well with only discrete energy values. The classic model used to demonstrate a quantum well is to confine particles, which were originally free to move in three dimensions, to two dimensions, by forcing them to occupy a planar region. The effects of quantum confinement take place when the quantum well thickness becomes comparable to the de Broglie wavelength of the carriers (generally electrons and holes), leading to energy levels called "energy subbands", i.e., the carriers can only have discrete energy values.

The CD laser is an example of a Quantum well, for which particles are confined in two dimensions. The laser beam is emitted from the open, unconfined dimension when the Quantum well is excited by electrical stimulation. The active ingredient in the Intelligent Chip - Quantum Dots, I.e., “Artificial Atoms,” for which particles are confined in all 3 dimensions to the (nanoscale) de Broglie wavelength. A torrent of Photons is emitted in a chain reaction when the quantum dot is stimulated by external energy such as a laser.

I’ve detected little change in SQ when the thin NDM discs are applied to the top loader surface. The top loader has nearly a 100% surface of uniform blackish grey color. Only the spindle and laser track cutout (only narrow enough to accommodate the laser assembly track) is “open” area to the inside of the transport. I’ll remove the disks after a few listening sessions to see whether the SQ changed.

I strongly suspect these NDM discs will work better at improving SQ for a front loader, as the typical CD tray has a huge cutout upon which the CD sits on the perimeter. I’d imagine all the laser light reflections, deflections and diffractions are escaping though that large cutout gap in the tray and bouncing off interior electronics boards inside the player. I’ll be testing my Oppo front loader Blu-ray player with these NDM discs next.

Fact! They work far better if you stick them on your forehead.

Cheers George

George, kinda of a cheap shot, don’t you think? I didn’t think you were that petty. 

OP
George can get that way at times
Not much love lost between George and Geoff here.
But GK is a big boy and can stand up for himself quite readily.
I would agree that you may find better effect inside a traditional front loader, that large cutout is exactly where I stuck a load of the NDM.
Please keep us informed

Indeed, Uber, indeed on all points. 

The NDM needs to be close to where all the action is as the objective is to reduce the power of the scattered light inside the transport compartment below the level that can be detected by the photodetector which is 75% of full reflected beam. It’s more straightforward in front loaders because you can see, as you said the NDM is right where all the action is. However I think as anywhere inside the transport compartment should be OK. The entire transport compartment is lit up with scattered light, even though most of it is invisible.

@geoffkait, on my way to Theater Camp this morning, I found myself wondering if the material you use relies on surface plasmon resonances?

I’ll share a pic of the top loader application. 

thecarpathian172 posts03-02-2019 3:43pm@geoffkait, on my way to Theater Camp this morning, I found myself wondering if the material you use relies on surface plasmon resonances?

>>>>>>Hmmmmmm....very interesting. 😳

By the way, I harbor no hard feelings toward George at all. He’s probably a good egg in the long run, that is if you like long runny eggs.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/YWqJjRJ9MeW9DLVc7

Looks OK. You should be good to go.

Looks like roughly 10 small squares applied. A bit higher than your magic number of 8. 

I now have about 10 days of watching the improved video and hearing the improved audio from my New Dark Matter treated Oppo 203. This is a nice improvement to an already good player. I really think if you system uses CD's or DVD's this is an upgrade worth trying.

Ordering a second kit to try on a run of the mill Samsung player.

David Pritchard

I didn’t mean to imply 8 or 10 are magic numbers. But I did find out it can be overdone. That discovery was made on a classified system. The moral of the story is more is not better. It’s not necessary to cover the entire tray surface. The NDM is currently going out with 10. Subject to change without notice. Your patience is appreciated.

I now think 8-10 is great, less might be equal to or......

I see only 6 squares/rectangles in your photo of the top loader. Am I missing something?

Rectangles are roughly the equivalent of 2 squares. 

I use the word “square” editorially. 😛

Lol. Geometry redefined. 

Hey if we can bend the time space continuum in here, surely changing a rectangle to a square is child’s play.

😁😁😁

You are a very keen observer. 

I’ll affix 1-2 more nearer to the laser assembly track. Let’s hear how that sounds....

I just heard from customer X who told me his big Acoustats sounded great with 9. His big system, the classified one, has 11. I’m not saying 8 or 12 won’t be just as good.

You might try the two new ones farther away from the laser - near the outer boundaries of the transport surface. Since scattered light gets emitted out the outer edge of the CD. 

I believe the words he used were subtle but powerful. He also mentioned that the Grateful Dead Best Of guitar work sounded amazing.

Yond Cassius doth protest too much, methinks.

Customer Y says his jaw hurts because he can’t stop grinning after installing New Dark Matter. Customer Y is a customer of Customer X. 

Customer Y’s system:

Magnaplanar 2C 

SVS subs, two

Amp - BWS Consulting Bendix output tubes modified Dynaco Stereo 70

Preamp - BWS Tube linestage with Lamda regulated power supplies from NASA radar installation

CD player - BWS modified Harmon Kardon 7725

DAC - BWS Modified Bel Canto DAC, BATTERY POWERED

INTERCONNECTS -  custom, all silver 

Tinned copper litz wire for power cords and speaker cables

Just affixed two additional small NDM squares to the perimeter boundaries of my Jay’s Audio CDT2 MK2 transport top surface. (Previous modification was not done.) Will report impressions after listening to some music.

celander, I’m sure we’re all very excited about that. 😁

My listening evaluations are finished. I’m without words: just let me say this is the greatest improvement in my audio system to date. More so than anything other than exchanging loudspeakers, which is more about flavors than realism. Greater microdynamics, seemingly purer sonics and dimensionality. 

Geoff, this kit is way too cheap!

OK, that’s not too bad.

Celander

You can only do an Aprils Fool up to midday you know...…...

Uber, what? April Fool’s Day isn’t a full day? 🤔

The dead giveaway was, I’m without words.

Geoff, +1. 

Lmao

From the land of prime April Fools pranks I hail and you only have to midday to prank your "fool". Seriously.

Geoff, I knew you knew. Just wanted to make sure @celander knew you knew and that you knew that I knew and that I knew that @celander knew.

😲😲😲

Who knew? 🙄😂😂😂