Machina Dynamica New Dark Matter CD and Blu Ray tray treatment?


This is a set of adhesive-backed thin plastic pieces that one attaches to one’s transport or player disc tray. The disk rests on them during non-spin mode, but presumably don’t touch the applied thin pieces during playback mode. The company says the new Dark Matter pieces reduces background scattered light from reaching the photodetector, thereby improving performance. 

Anyone tried this product? Please specify transport or player if you have and your impressions. 
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Yeah, that’s done a lot of good for them. Stiff upper lip!  😬 When a thing is not promoted something terrible happens. Nothing.
What’s interesting is even with an EVS modded Oppo 205 (which is not chopped liver) there’s still a long way to go.

There’s no substitute for signal to noise ratio.

geoff kait
machina dynamica
we do artificial atoms right!
celander OP1,335 posts04-13-2019 1:18pmWow...another stellar review.

>>>>I’m sensing either pseudo skepticism or jealousy here. Does he think it’s a fake review? Wow! The depths some people will go....
uberwaltz5,457 posts04-13-2019 2:12pmTypical Katie.

So quick to criticize others but cannot handle it in return ... lol

Old saying...

If you can’t stand the heat keep out of the kitchen ..✌🏻✌🏻

>>>>Nope. You’re describing yourself. You’re mistaking comic timing for criticism. Besides, in your particular case it’s not heat so much as feathers.
glubson, we all have our little paranoid obsessions. I hate to judge too harshly but it appears I’m one of yours. 😳
What’s outside of Pleasantville?”

“There are some places that the road doesn’t go in a circle. There are some places where the road keeps going.”

 “Keeps going?”

“Yeah, yeah. It just keeps going. It all keeps going.”

Uber, I give you full credit, if not for being a wit, at least being half of one.
Et tu, Brute? Looks like it’s just me going nuclear combat toe to toe with my Droogies.
Wow! What a bunch of clever fellows we have today. I’m in awe. 😬
Words can have more than one meaning, dude. Most people learn that in sixth grade. At least I got your attention.
HORRENDOUS: spine-chilling, shocking, frightening, hair-raising. Shall I use shorter words?
You can send a Midwesterner to Harvard. But he’s still a Midwesterner. 🤠
This just in! Customer X just called to say he flew out and installed NDM in “the Big System” of his Customer Z, in Oregon. Boy, are his arms tired. 🤗

Report from Oregon: Much more of everything, a lot more details, no distortion, frequency extension top and bottom. Horrendous bass slam and articulation.

Better get busy, guys.

Note: Customer Z has the BWS Consulting high power tube amps that come in at 600 lb shipping weight and will set you back 30 grand.
From what I can tell so far with feedback from customers of NEW DARK MATTER and I am trying to resist being too judgmental those customers with good systems hear the full glory whilst those with mediocre systems or systems with mistakes in them get negative or tepid results. NDM seems to very good at distinguishing between the advanced audiophile and the plug and play type. Kind of a smart tweak, as it were. I have a rather good population of customers to analyze now so I don’t think I’m overstating this. I’m just trying to be objective here. NDM is certainly no panacea. Or a pancreas for that matter.
mapman
Of course nothing is perfect. Each device will vary from that ideal but good devices will do it with some design tolerance that helps assure accurate results.

Also of course performance of all devices declines over time so a 10 year old device no longer functions as well as a new one in most cases.

Now, introduce anything that affects the actual light levels detected by absorbing some of it, and if enough is absorbed, a change in the output should occur and could be audible if large enough.

>>>>>I hate to judge before all the facts are in but it appears my explanation of how New Dark Matter works didn’t work on you. No biggie. New Dark Matter doesn’t affect the level of direct reflected laser light, only the level of the background scattered light. All CD players, regardless of cost or age, have this problem with scattered light. As do SACD players, DVD players, and Blu Ray players.

uberwaltz “I honestly do think it made a difference on both players I installed NDM into.

But what do I know, I am listening to Mamas and Papas so go figure......”

+ 1/2
celander OP1,280 posts04-11-2019 5:13pm04-11-2019 4:08pm
Geoff wrote:

“>>>>That’s weird. I see some of my posts here dated as far back as 2002. Were those posts really mine and if so were they legal?”

I see that now. But A’gon must have discounted those earlier contributions.

>>>>Yeah, right.
celander OP1,278 posts04-11-2019 4:50pm04-11-2019 3:38pm
Geoff wrote:

@celander I’ve been no. 1 here for ten years. I kind doubt I’ll be going anywhere, ol buddy.

I didn’t realize it’s 2022 AD.

>>>>That’s weird. I see some of my posts here dated as far back as 2002. Were those posts really mine and if so were they legal?
It’s like a hornets nest in here. Except the hornets don’t have any stingers. 
celander OP1,274 posts04-11-2019 4:26pmIt’s the average Joe’s who decide Nobel prizes.

>>>>>you should probably consider reverting back to your old “nothing to say” self. 
@celander I’ve been no. 1 here for ten years. I kind of doubt I’ll be going anywhere, ol buddy.
celander OP
As impossible as it might sound, this thread has made me less intelligent.

+1
An ordinary man has no means of deliverance.

”If I could explain it to the average Joe Blow they wouldn’t have given me the Nobel prize.”
Please advise if and when anyone tries ripping using NDM. Much obliged.
At this point we really have to consider what kind of world we’re going to leave to Keith Richards.
I hate to be a spoil sport but that’s actually untrue. Can I say that?
We’re presently waiting for at least two folks to file their reports, the second person is apparently the victim of some kind of USPS mail Delivery fiasco underway in the great state of Florida. In the meantime, I’m perfectly willing to provide my own results, you know, if things get a little dull.
I always assumed AXPONA was where all the losers from CES went to try to recover their losses. In fact I was told AXPONA is CES spelled backwards. 
The most obvious use of springs from a historical perspective was when Kubrick was filming the faked Moon landing on a movie set outside London somewhere as a favor to NASA, under extreme pressure to make a “show of force” to the Ruskies that particular day. Springs on the shoes of the actors who played the astronauts, at least one borrowed from the making of 2001 A Space Odyssey just prior, possibly Kier Dullea, made it appear they were walking on a low-gravity lunar surface. Kubrick stated later in an interview he got the idea from watching Roadrunner cartoons. A side note: it was Kubrick’s wife who came up with the line, “One small step for man, one giant step for mankind.”
OMG! I forgot the most obvious one. My own Baby Promethean and Super Stiff Springs! It might not be very obvious to the average person but springs are anti gravity devices. It’s a good feeling to get free of gravitational constraints. 🤗 Springs, ironically perhaps, are one way to reduce mass of the audio system. Even Michael Green would have to sign up to that concept. How could he not sign up? 
moopman
Do you have a hifi tweak to correct for those gravitational waves too?

>>>Funny you should ask, Moops. Well, not funny like a clown 🤡. But as it turns out, there are some audiophile tweaks that correct for or take advantage of gravitational forces, (which we now understand to actually be ripples in spacetime. Pendulum type vibration isolators - like my Nimbus Sub-Hertz Platform of yore - employ the force of gravity as a means to damp the pendulum motion (albeit rather small) of the isolator, LIGO project to detect gravity waves also employed a similar but much more complex pendulum isolator as part of its comprehensive program of seismic isolation. But more to your snarky question, there are several PWB Electronics tweaks that address the deleterious effects of gravity on sound. If I recall correctly, the coloring of the inner edge of CDs BLACK has something to do with gravity, as well as painting the outer edge of the CD VIOLET. Obviously the color violet is unrelated to either visible red light or invisible infrared light. These treated (I.e., programmed) BLACK PEN and VIOLET PEN tweaks also apply to LPs. I’m going out on a limb here, and speculating the BLACK PEN around the inner edge of the CD is in a sense replicating a BLACK HOLE in the center of a galaxy. But that’s pure speculation.
There’s nothing new under the sun. Hubble photo of black hole release date 2014.

https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/potw1411a/

Then, the following year was this.

The first direct observation of gravitational waves was made on 14 September 2015 and was announced by the LIGO and Virgo collaborations on 11 February 2016.[3][4][5] Previously, gravitational waves had only been inferred indirectly, via their effect on the timing of pulsars in binary star systems. The waveform, detected by both LIGO observatories,[6] matched the predictions of general relativity[7][8][9] for a gravitational wave emanating from the inward spiral and merger of a pair of black holes of around 36 and 29 solar masses and the subsequent "ringdown" of the single resulting black hole.[note 1] The signal was named GW150914 (from "Gravitational Wave" and the date of observation 2015-09-14).[3][11][note 2] It was also the first observation of a binary black hole merger, demonstrating both the existence of binary stellar-mass black hole systems and the fact that such mergers could occur within the current age of the universe.
“...captured by a team of Harvard scientists and astronomers.”

>>>>>>”OK, come out with your hands up!”

”A global team of astronomers, led by Harvard scientists..."

>>>>>”A team of astrologers led by Harvard global conspiracists.”


I implore you, gentle readers, how stupid do they think we are? The speaker in the video who, I assume by his demeanor, is a Harvard scientist, 😬 says the black hole dimensions fall out from Einstein’s field equations. That’s ironic since Einstein never got on board the whole black hole train, as it were. Toot! Toot! 🚂. Fake news! A tempest in a teapot. 

https://youtu.be/xVibTl-mrdw
The Harvard press conference rumpus regarding “photographic proof” of a black hole is a perfect example of fake news. Whereas NDM is real news! See the difference?