List your System Ingredients: Listed most to least expensive, by list price or price paid
How did you proportion your system spending? You can choose to list by component name or type, and by the the price you actually paid new or used, OR by the original full retail price. Just be consistent.
For example, by price paid mine would be-
Millercarbon: Tone arm, speakers, phono stage, motor, cartridge, turntable, Cones (rack, Shelf, etc), speaker cable, power cords, room treatment and tweaks, amp, interconnect.
But by full retail price when new mine would be:
Millercarbon: Speakers, speaker cables, tone arm,
Cones (rack, Shelf, etc),
phono stage, power cords, cartridge, motor, interconnect, amp, room treatment and tweaks (fuses, ECT, HFT, etc).
System and I am too old to remember how much I paid for this stuff. - Vandersteen 5A, Ayre amp, preamp, silver disc player,VPI turntable with 2nd pivot and rim drive with Ortofon Winfield cart, Schroeder cables, Maestro outlets, etc.
used; Speakers (including sub), integrated amp, cd player, speaker cables.
New; Speakers (including sub), integrated amp, cd player, speaker cables. In my system, if you included the source material my cd collection would rank first lol.
Marantz SR-18 receiver, new was $4,299, paid $399 Rotel RDV 1045 DVD/CDplayer, new was $600, paid $130 Mirage M590i speakers, new were $1,100, paid $150 Cardas B300 Microtwin interconnects, new $150, paid $80 Museatex(Meitner) 24 strand solid core speaker cables, new were $600, paid $80
Totals; new $6,149, paid $819
Musically dynamic, extremely neutral, great low level detail and the best non-electrostaic tweeter I've ever heard.
custom room design and build... speakers....Evolution Acoustics MM7’s Amplifiers....darTZeel NHB-468 mono blocks digital dac---MSB Select II with mono powerbases and 33 femto clock turntable---CS Port LFT1 turntable---Saskia model two preamp w/2 phonos---darTZeel NHB-18NS turntable---Wave Kinetics NVS digital server----SGM Extreme RTR tape deck---Studer A-820 grounding---Tripoint Elite phono cartridge---Etsuro Gold RTR tape deck---Studer A-820 whole system 10kva A/C power transformer---Equi=tech 10WQ wall panel system phono stage---CS Port C3EQM2 grounding---Tripoint Troy Signature tone arm--Durand Telos Sapphire tone arm--Durand Tosca phono cartridge---Clearaudio Goldfinger Statement RTR tape deck----Studer A-820 active isolation---Taiko Tana system (x5) tape output electronics---King-Cello
by list price.....
Evolution Acoustics MM7 speakers amplifiers---dart 468 mono blocks custom room design and build. MSB Select II with mono power bases and 33 Femto clock turntable---Saskia model two turntable---CS Port LFT1 turntable---Wave Kinetics NVS preamp w/2 phonos---dart 18NS RTR tape deck----Studer A-820 (1/4" + 1/2" heads) RTR tape deck----Studer A-820 1/4" RTR tape deck----Studer A-820 1/2" tone arm---Durand Telos Sapphire digital server---SGM Extreme phono cartridge---Etsuro Gold phono stage---CS Port C3EQM2 whole system 10kva A/C power transformer---Equi=tech 10WQ wall panel system. phono cartridge----Clearaudio Goldfinger Statement active isolation---Taiko Tana system (x5) tone arm----Durand Tosca tape output electronics---King Cello
numerous other pieces, a few more cartridges, another tone arm, other grounding boxes and cables, power and signal cables, digital network interfaces, tweaks, tools, record cleaner, record flatener, acoustic treatments, and......of course......my media......7000-8000 Lps, 250 tapes, 4000+ CD’s, and 20+ tb’s of music including -2- 30tb NAS back up digital storage.
Please note that you will not find cables there. I consider them a non-factor.
As to cost, almost all the components were bought second hand or store demo model. The Koetsu Onyx was a gift. Beyond that, everyone here is fairly astute: I’m sure you can figure the cost yourselves.
With regard to Elizabeth’s comment: these days, maybe for the last 20 years or so, I generally don’t care what other audiophiles are doing. I have an approach, a philosophy, I know what I want, I go for it and that’s that.
Leaving out price is deliberate and makes it decidedly not a measuring contest. Leaving out even percentages makes it purely a list of which cost more- and letting people choose to go with either MSRP or what they paid is yet another way of hiding or avoiding the BSD effect. For once you can have Rotel, and nobody gives a Schiit.
Al, I have great respect for you and the measured and super useful posts you provide. They often help me come to a greater understanding. -The lack of a trend may be a trend, but here, I'm not sure how that'd be helpful. Cheers
This thread just seemed like a measuring contest to me. I think a lot of people would prefer not to disclose price, I am one. OP, when you ask people to talk about capital or finance, many choose not to. Looks like most people just responded in percentages.
But to play along, I’ll provide percentages.
Amp/pre - 57% Speakers - 32% Server - 8% CD - 1% Wire - 3% (surprised at how it sings with such a small investment here. I do believe in wire, especially power cords)
Naw, when the likes of elizabeth and geoffkait show up the best one can hope for is a dead cat bounce. There comes a point where the inanity is so bad no one wants to be associated with it in any way, and so the asylum is left to the inmates.
But: people asked what use could this serve, what could we learn?
Van Halen performance contracts specified no blue M&Ms. Turns out the M&Ms were just a clever way of checking to see if the contract had actually been read.
When people can't follow a complex line of reasoning its one thing. But when you prove the same people can't even read and comprehend well enough to follow something this simple well now that tells you something too, doesn't it?
Or maybe this whole thread was a McGuffin. Alfred Hitchcock's term for whatever it is that serves to get the protagonists protagonizing. And yeah I know this is over your head, but maybe not everyone else's.
But consider. A perfectly nice little thread, more pleasant than most according to some, not only ruined but ruined with bullying. Trust me, elizabeth, I know I don't own this space. But do you?
List your System Ingredients: Listed most to least expensive, by list price or price paid
How did you proportion your system spending? You can choose to list by component name or type, and by the the price you actually paid new or used, OR by the original full retail price. Just be consistent.
I figured out how my CD/SACD player works, but I can’t get it to play my LP’s. Guess I’ll just throw them out. The music contained in the groove of a fair number of them is unavailable on CD, but since CD’s make LP’s obsolete I’ll just have to go without that music.
Yes, the foundation of a great system is the turntable. Well, if you haven’t figured out how CDs work, it is? Once you figure it out, there’s not much of a contest. 🤗
My spider senses are tingling mmporsche, and my finely honed Holmesian deductive powers lead me to the inescapable conclusion a man with a VPI Prime Signature Turntable most likely is using a phono cartridge, a mysteriously missing ingredient. Surely a man with a $5k DAC and $5k record cleaning machine must have at least as much in his cartridge??
List your System Ingredients: Listed most to least expensive, by list price or price paid
Not by percentage. Not alphabetically.
While all those might be interesting, the deal here is by price.
Throw in a few relevant details, key word being "relevant", so much the better.
almarg writes:
Seems to me like a very reasonable idea for a thread, that would be of interest to some even if (as might be expected) clear trends don’t emerge. For one thing, lack of a trend could in itself be reasonably considered to be a trend. For another thing, it seems expectable that many audiophiles would find it interesting to gain some idea of how other audiophiles have apportioned their audio-related investments, especially other audiophiles they may have become familiar with here, over the years.
In any event, at least so far it seems like a considerably more pleasant thread than some others I can think of.
Seems to me like a very reasonable idea for a thread, that would be of interest to some even if (as might be expected) clear trends don’t emerge. For one thing, lack of a trend could in itself be reasonably considered to be a trend. For another thing, it seems expectable that many audiophiles would find it interesting to gain some idea of how other audiophiles have apportioned their audio-related investments, especially other audiophiles they may have become familiar with here, over the years.
In any event, at least so far it seems like a considerably more pleasant thread than some others I can think of.
pokey77 wonders about the point of this, ”Not sure you will find any meaningful trends here.” If Tina Turner were an audiophile perhaps should be singing, ”What’s meaning got to do with it, got to do with it What’s meaning to an audiophile’s emotion What’s meaning got to do with it, got to do with it Who needs another amp when an amp can be broken”
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