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Integrated for Devore O/93
I just got a pair from a friend of O/93, after tried several speakers in the last 5 years, these ones got the soul I’m after of.
When I had them, used to run with a Mastersound Dueventi, EL34 based amp very nice phono stage and so, there was some magic in it, now I can go for any of these:
Octave V70 Class A. Really liked all about this "little" german fella, very neutral and punchy presentation, awesome build quality. Pretty good phono stage.
Octave V16. 300B? why not? always loved them.
Mastersound Duetrenta or new Icona or just go for the Compact 845, why not come back to my favs tube amps? very good looking and wonderful sounding machines, used to have Compact 300B and Dueventi, but lately I’m enjoying KT’s lamps, they are not as magical but very well controlled and extended in the extremes freqs. and with real punch in the bass department, that’s why Duetrenta or Icona, pure Class A Single Ended ones, with a Triode/Pentode switch (with Devore’s Triode sounded more magical but Pentode with balls and really nice separation).
Copland CT408/407, heard amazing things about this danish integrated with a very good phono stage.
Western Electric 91E. Only read about it, but looks absolutely brilliant.
Rest of the system is a Kuzma Stabi R with a Zyx Ultimate 100 and Acoustic Plan DAC/Lumin U mini.
Ideally, one of those integrated is what I’d like to get, no more otherwise my brain will explode looking for choices so I’ll appreciate if U can tell me a little bit bout them.
In the future would love to upgrade to O/96’s but will be in 2-3 years so need a real good partner for them.
I just got new Devore O/96. After having multiple Sonus Fabers all the way up to Amati tradition first generation, harbeth shl5 xd, focal sopra, and some others, the Devore sound most realistic and natural in my set up. Contrary to common opinion that they a better with tubes, I drive them with luxman 509z integrated. I have yet to try some tube integrated, but for now I am very satisfied. |
As an owner of O/93's I can not help you as to an integrated but feel compelled to tell you that the Auditorium 23 speaker cables really do something magical with the O/93's. They are more pleasing than Cardas Clear Beyond that I also have. I have three amps and one of them is an integrated of sorts, an Ampsandsound Nautilus. Eight watts of no negative fb and pure SET is beautiful with the O/93's in a smaller room. 80 watts and 160 watts with an ARC Ref 6 and the Ref 80S and Ref 175SE provide more control and macro-detail but less micro-detail and less relaxing, "just let it wash over you" sound. The sound signature of the O/93 remains the same throughout so the choice of cabling imho is more important. Now that said, I auditioned the O/93's with a Sugden preamp into a VAC amp at Don Better Audio (who no longer seems to be a Devore dealer) and maybe it was his room but I would never use anything but all-tube with these speakers. If you want authoritative low end, you chose the wrong speaker and even the O/96's won't punch you in the gut. If you want true tube magic at the expense of a tight low end, take a hard look at a 300B integrated. Remember-there is no system that "does everything" and there are always compromises. The inner beauty of low powered SET's, particularly with 300B's, is analogous to the old wine saying that "people start with cabernet, but all roads end at Burgundy".
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Might want to check out Rogers High Fidelity. As high a build quality as there is in tube amps, sound excellent, lifetime warranty! There are a few available on Audiomart and both new & used directly from the manufacturer. There are pretty argue & operate in full class A mode so they do put out some heat. I really enjoy mine! |
I really like the Synthesis Audio A40 (KT 66 tube). It comes with a built-in DAC that is no slouch. A local dealer that sells these things gets in trades of gear costing MUCH more than the A40. I have not heard the A40 with DeVore speakers, but, I have heard it with Audio Note speakers that share similar efficiency and similar parentage (both are sort of clones of Snell speakers). Mastersound and the Leben recommendations are also, to me, good recommendations. I have only heard a couple Allnic pieces, but, t like what I heard and the construction looks good too. I spoke with a very knowledgeable real (vintage) Western Electric expert and he hates the new 91E amp. However, the new 300b tubes that the same company produces do sound good and they come with a generous warranty. |
Thank You guys! What a hard choice! V70 or Duetrenta! Don't U think the mastersound amps are more powerful having same or less wpc? maybe are the current? the transformers? |
Check into Line Magnetic, 805ia, 845ia, or 845 premium. I had the O/93 with the 845ia and I really enjoyed that experience. I also tried a higher powered Audio Hungary Class A tube and solid state Aavik integrated and the Line Magnetic just had better synergy with the DeVores. I've since upgraded to the O/96 using the same 845ia and it's a wonderful match. I upgraded the front end tubes which made a nice difference. Currently planning to upgrade to the 845 premium when Tone Imports get them back in stock. Check this review of the 845ia, mentions the O/93 and how it was a great pairing: Twittering Machines 845ia review
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