I'm here for the enthusiasts, not the snobbery


Couple of threads have shown up lately. "Should you be an audiophile if you..." either have a certain type of gear, have a certain amount of money, or don’t make your own.

I personally reject all of that. I’m here for the enthusiasts, and those who suffer. That is, people who are enthusiastic about listening to music via electronics and those who are suffering with problems who need a little help. That’s how I try to build a community.

Also want to point out, again, that this hobby was built by hobbyists and tinkerers. The range included backyard self-electrocuting iconoclasts to scientists in acoustics and electrical engineering. I’m happy to welcome them all.

Laslty, I want to say something about the Porsche metaphor:

1 - All Porsches are ugly. This is an indisputable fact no one wants to talk about and means all debate needs to stop right there.

2 - Any motorcycle is more fun and exciting than any car.


Thank you for reading this and I’m glad I had a chance to nip these conversations in the bud. << evil troll laugh >>
erik_squires
glubson, how about that down-hill road on a fixed-gear track bicycle and lose contact with ever increasing cadence of the pedals ..... 
isochronism,
"glubson, It take’s one to know one ..... 😄"
Do not flatter yourself looking like David. geoffkait said two of you know each other from the Venus de Milo Impersonator Convention.
"...you can spend most of your time tweaking or driving; you don’t have to have uber gear to get thrills..."
The most thrill I have ever had driving was a few years ago down the curvy goat-level steep narrow island roads in the 1970s Beetle convertible. No railguards, of course. The thrill was in virtually no braking power of that thing.

Yes, low-level gear can get you thrills, but I would have given my life for a brand new Bugatti at that moment. Not much of an exchange, though. I thought my life was about to be over anyway.
"...Al's uncanny resemblance to Michelangelo's David, of which he is too humble to admit. 👍"
Humble is his middle name. David is his first. You guessed it, Michelangelo is his last.

almarg has been uniformly considered The (only?) Gentleman here. Impossible to disagree with that.
Erik- If you like motorcycles, you should visit the Barber Museum in Birmingham, AL. Most of the bikes in the Guggenheim show came from his private collection and the building he commissioned to house it has an interior layout similar to the Guggenheim. While you are there, you can check out the track. It is used by Porsche as a test and training facility. It is a fabulous track (though I’m not much for racing tracks, I prefer long distance rallies). You might even be able to get a ride at speed. It could change your view of the aesthetics of the car, since being behind the wheel is where the fun is. (I don’t know if you can sign up for driver training without owning a car- I had a two day stint there when the CGT came out and Hurley Haywood was my coach). Humbling.
The metaphor or analogy does work to a degree. Fun in audio is where you find it; you can spend most of your time tweaking or driving; you don’t have to have uber gear to get thrills (there’s a pretty serious contingent of Miata drivers who are competitive). And to me, Bugatti stopped by WWII. The thing with that name today is just bling.
As for Rollers, Earl Heath was a neighbor when I was a kid. He had a pretty amazing collection. I find the old Bentleys more interesting, including the original W.O. cars and the "specials" which were essentially hot rods made from saloon cars. Sort of like our period hot rods in the States.
I’m basically agnostic on cars-- I love ’em all- from microcars to big finned Detroit iron. British requires a certain masochism, particularly vintage. Italian- god love ’em. The Germans are great engineers, though. One of my personal favorites, in terms of beauty, is the BMW 3.0 CS from the early ’70s. What a stunning car.
Al's wife's background in art helped influence her accepting proposal of marriage among other things, is Al's uncanny resemblance to Michelangelo's David, of which he is too humble to admit. 👍
Well, it can get worse. Much worse.

The question with a motorcycle is not if, but when. Be careful and remember that accidents happen quickly.
I’d be more concerned about putting some skin on the asphalt. I once came upon a turned over motorcycle on the highway and wondered where the rider was. As it turned out he was about 100 yards up ahead, being attended to.
"You can't claim to be engaged if you don't put skin in the game."
Skull, too.

Once I asked a guy I was chatting with if I should buy a motorcycle just to try.

He said "Please do and please do not wear a helmet. I am saving for a new place."

He was a neurosurgeon.


Couple of threads have shown up lately. "Should you be an audiophile if you..." either have a certain type of gear, have a certain amount of money, or don’t make your own.

I personally reject all of that. I’m here for the enthusiasts, and those who suffer. That is, people who are enthusiastic about listening to music via electronics and those who are suffering with problems who need a little help. That’s how I try to build a community.

+1. I've made a point of ignoring the threads you refer to in the first paragraph.

All Porsches are ugly. This is an indisputable fact ...

-1 :-)

My 2017 Macan S and 2014 Cayman S (both in the colors shown) get a lot of compliments on their appearance. Also, FWIW, my wife has a background in art among other things, and would dispute your indisputable fact :-)

Best regards,
-- Al
 
I worked with a guy that raced in the vintage class, Big BSA guy.
NO fancy suspension.. Oh Man... I think it was motocross, lots of knee action, I remember that...

He loved it. I’m walking, he’s hobbling.. He took good care of himself too. It did take its toll.
He wouldn’t drive on the street though..

Both knees and hips were in bad order at 50 or so, He’s 72 now...

Stunt rider Indian Larry suffered a similar fate as well. 
That was too bad, he was a good mechanic, too, Yup...

Regards


I never rode, so haven’t had bugs get caught in my teeth. Now hair, sure. ’Cause I have long hair, I mean. Why, what were you thinkin’? ,-)

When J. Gordon Holt started Stereophile in 1962, many hi-fi enthusiasts WERE amateur engineers, having had training during WWII or even in High School. By the time Harry Pearson started The Absolute Sound in 1973, things were considerably different. Boomers were now in the workforce, wanted a good "stereo", but had no technical education. The same was true of Pearson and his writers, who were professionals (in non-hi-fi fields) with more disposable income than knowledge of electronic circuits or loudspeaker design.

Sadly astronaut Pete Conrad, test pilot, etc. died as a result of a fall off a motorcycle at slow speed. It can happen to anyone.
As an old Desert Sled rider (Triumph 650), we had a saying ... "If you're not falling off, you're not going fast enough."

https://silodrome.com/steve-mcqueen-triumph-bonneville-desert-sled/
To add to roxy's and eric's posts ..... I will say as to the bugs that got caught in my teeth, none survived.
I had a Triumph 500 for a couple years, was happy to sell it. A death trap. Someone I know put his leg through the (spinning) spokes of a Honda 50 when a woman drove through a red light. You can’t stop what’s coming.
Motorcycles are real fun...until someone gets hurt. Or killed.

You can't claim to be engaged if you don't put skin in the game.

I don’t care for either.
I would like a Rolls Royce, and a chauffeur.

I don’t like driving anymore.

I lived in a service truck for over 40 years.
I drove a million miles BACKWARDS.

Back into the jobsite when your fresh.
Drive off the jobsite when your finished, and tired..

I did listen to music, the whole time, usually classical.
It kept most people away from me.. It always helped me to think..

Just staying out of trouble... Kinda...

Regards
Hi,
"for the enthusiasts, and those who suffer",
nicely put and not need to divide again.
Must be excessive quarantine time. No other interests to invest their energy in.