E-bay and its sellers

eBay home of jerks and the big SCAM!!

I find sometimes I can sleep standing up. However, naps are for the couch. All this fun conversation makes me tired. Where’s the couch?

 I had a horse once, he could sleep standing up, especially when I was riding him!! He was a retired race horse, when you woke him up all he wanted to do was run!!!! 
  Little humor here. 

@thecarpathian + 1

Na, you should have looked up where he worked. I think it would have added to the entertainment. Na, it is funnier when he posted the link and expected us to "respect it". I would have added McDonald's as a teen or a paper route for full effect.

Got fired a lot, huh?

To be clear;

This threads relevance to my life in terms of importance is exactly the same as zero. It is an inconsequential and mildly entertaining distraction. To think that I would do my ’homework’ and spend precious minutes of my delightful life looking up places where you’ve worked is just weird.

Why do you think I would give a flying Funyun where you’ve worked?

Carpathian:   Do you homework, Audio Associates , Arlington, Va, Myer Emco, Washington DC, American Amplifier, Washington, DC, Tele-Har-Electronics, Washington, DC, Colonial Radio, Arlington, Va.....Maybe you just quit and are intertaining on another forum......Who could be that lucky ??

Have you guys ever seen the Monty Python skit, "Arguments"?

The OP seems to be just that.

Yet another OP trying to fight global hunger, promote world peace, and further humanity...

My gosh man, get a grip.

@thecarpathian - 🤣   But it's still silly that they NAP standing up! 

ebay started to protect sellers,even are removing negative feedbacks left by buyers

This is understandable,they get money from them.For this reason went off ebay

also noticed there is less audio equipment listed than some years ago.

Experienced sellers and buyers leaving ebay,taxes too high,advertised policies "money back garantuee" does not work anymore.There are other sites where the same audio equipment cost less

@larsman ,

By golly, you are right! I stand corrected. Or do I lie down corrected?

This thread is confusing...

@thecarpathian - cows may nap standing up, but they sleep laying down. Horses too. So I guess the cows that some people 'tip' were just having a nap. My mom even used to tell me that you could tell when it was going to rain because the cows would lie down. No, we didn't live on a farm, but she used to have to drive through rural areas on her way to and from work.

Haven't seen cows or horses on eBay, though. 

That's the thing; this is no "heads up".

Its simply him crying that some anonymous seller made a reply he didn't like. That's all this is. No heads up, no epiphanies, no anything. 

OP,

Did you get your money back? Did you write a negative review of your experience with the seller?

If you did and if you did, thanks for the heads up.

"The fact that you tell what the buyer did but refuse to give any further clarification as to why, I find silly."

Whoops. Meant "seller".

By my estimate, that would make him around 130 years old.

"I have worked on tube electronics for more years than most of you folks have lived"

Now get off my lawn...

"I purchase over 5000.00 worth of Audio a week on e-bay,"

"I don't know how to send anything to e-bay, and that is by e-bay design......They don't want to talk to anyone"

All that and you don't have Ebay Concierge service to remedy your problems?

Wow. When I use my Ebay Concierge service I get a callback from a human in about 90 seconds.

+10 @thecarpathian

Time for one other silly observation before the moderators delete this thread:

I find it silly that someone invented a putty and gave it the first name of silly....now that is silly, right? Post #52 on this thread. Now that is "the real " freakin' SILLY!

First day back to Agon and it is silly as ever!!!! Gotta love it.

Rick 😎

G’night all 🤣

"And if your watching you have to be entertained by the silliness of it all...."

I’m quite entertained by the silliness of it all.

The fact that you felt so strongly about something so mind bogglingly trivial that happened to you on EBay that you were compelled to start a thread on an audiophile forum looking for tea and sympathy, I find silly.

The fact that you tell what the buyer did but refuse to give any further clarification as to why, I find silly.

The fact that you puff up your feathers and keep spouting disconnected facts about how awesome sauce you are, I find silly.

The fact that cows sleep standing up, I find silly.

The fact that some turtles can breathe through their butt, I find silly and alarmingly arousing.

What do you find silly?

Yes I am new here but this is my 4th ID. I have never been banned or thrown off. I have my own reasons for joining and leaving and coming back. Mine and for me only. I still get incite here but may not have a lot to give. I’m hoping I stay.

I am sorry about your problem and understand a need to vent. I read your post. Now it’s ebays turn to help you. Go for it.

I have 7645 feedback on ebay. I have left 11,100 to date for others. There are probably another 1500-2000 not left because buyers don't always leave feedback. As a buyer I don't always leave feedback if there was a poor transaction but not worth crying over. Contact ebay and file a complaint. You say you do $1,000s a week and yet not so high a feedback rating. That could be 10 or less a week on audio equipment. Not all sellers are levelheaded and many buyers are total a-holes. As a buyer I confess to a little assholyness myself....but all in all I have stayed levelheaded.
We are not trying to judge, but don't need to be attacked as we are not the seller. There is a way and as a guy who proclaims so much you should know the ebay path to file the complaint. I am not defending anyone or attacking anyone, either. Use the force, Luke...just not on audiophiles on this forum.

All this comes from resonantly well educated people, who have nothing to do.....Its all about lawyers and crows, which one are you ???  Just setting on the wire......Waiting and waiting.......At least this puts me in a better mood than the real topic, which nobody really got anyway.......And if your watching you have to be entertained by the silliness of it all...........Resonantly well educated ?? 

I have worked on tube electronics for more years than most of you folks have lived.....

You sure do like to brag about things that have nothing to do with why you started this thread.

Anyway, since you’re going to pick on the slow kid, I’ll give it the old Community College try:

You worked at Tubes R Us? TubeMart? TubesTubesTubes? Goober’s Oil and Tube?

Rubic’s Tube? Tony Shatube? Tubey-doo? Icetubes? GreatsettaTubes?

Am I close? What did I win?

Carpathian:  I really don't have to do anything on here, because you folks can do it all......And to address the other noble statement, I have worked on tube electronics for more years than most of you folks have lived........Why don't you guess where I've worked ??   Because you are extra good at guessing ??    Give that a try and Ill let you know if you are correct.....

@tcotruvo - there are some bad buyers and sellers on eBay? Who would have guessed? 😀

Also, some sellers may consider absurd low-ball offers as insults to their intelligence and will respond accordingly, and I totally understand that. 

We don't have the whole story here. There use to be a program called "The rest of the Story"... that's what we need "The rest of the story".

There's a market for espresso machine finger guards??!

The OP also said that the seller cancelled some sales and incorrectly reported that the buyer canceled.  So there’s a second infraction of eBay policies.

The OP may be venting, but he’s also warning us about potential buying issues on eBay.

I just sold a brand new espresso machine finger guard that I took off my grinder before using it.  Then the buyer sent me a return request with a picture of the guard with coffee grounds on it.  He said it was dirty and used.  So I was out the shipping to him, and returning it to me.  So there are bad buyers and sellers on eBay.

Let me take a wild guess; lawyer?

Great point, why come on this forum to cry about something that happened to you over on EBay. The other day a guy from Craigslist said something I didn’t like.

I better start a forum thread about it...

@tcotruvo

MY TAKE:

(1) Without prejudice to the fact that:

(a) its an ineffective, incomplete and thus very lame plea for sympathy from the jurors in the AGON Court of Public Opinion in the first part,

(b) coupled with suspect alleged facts triggering high juror skepticism and doubt because the baseline simple key question of requesting the alleged binary discussion terms vis-a-vis the “asking price” vs. “offer presented” has been capriciously ignored with nada other than “crickets” ; ( it may have been not just an insulting offer, but rather way past that into the realm of the extreme insult )

Why the hell do we even give a rat’s pitootey on what allegedly occurs on EBay?

…. There has been no violation or transgression of protocol, manners, or conduct rules here on AGON,

Report it to eBay 

I have over 800 positive reviews on eBay.  It’s never appropriate for anyone to receive a response as the OP did.  Even low ball offers get a ‘no thanks’ response from me.  If I’m very firm on the price I don’t respond.  Sometimes I’ll play along with a high counter offer if I’m more flexible.

I occasionally  buy things to resell and make a buck, but what’s wrong with that?

I will make offers of maybe 25% off, if that’s what I’m willing to pay, and I’m often surprised that sellers accept.  I don’t want to make offers to offend a seller, but I probably have.  That’s just part of selling.

What real issue @autospec ?   That you tried to make a buck at someone else's expense with a low ball offer and got called out on it?

It's all about perspective.

autospec- People “process” things be getting ALL the relevant information before coming to a conclusion.

Your lack of response to two simple questions speaks loudly as to YOUR character.

I think his feelings were hurt. Bought two items, then offered a low ball price probably and the guy said F.O.  Sellers have the right to react if not happy.  If the offer is within reason of 5-10% that would be fair, if were talking 20-30% off.  Heck, I think many AG would say F.O. too.

@ this point, we can only hope that Paul Harvey shows up with, the rest of the story.

Who cares?

No one.

Bye.

I guess your lack of an answer is the answer...

I want to thank the very few that actually touched on the real issue, and also thank the others, who if nothing else brought some entertainment to the "forum groupies".....It always amasses how people process things, I wonder how we get anything done........THANKS 

autospec-How much was he asking and what did you offer?  Easy questions…

LOL @carlsbad 

@autospec ,

I think you are almost there.  Keep breathing deep.  

Keep thinking you know more than everyone else. that will work well for you.

BTW, I had an ebay business for several years selling millions of dollars worth of collectible coins.  I met a few guys like you.

Deep Breaths,

Jerry

The OP was venting. He is a salty lad for sure.

Hi, @minkwelder .

No, I didn’t take that personally at all.

I was merely making an observation. And I see no wrong doing on your part whatsoever in relaying your transaction as you told the whole story and didn’t come here looking for sympathy or validation. As an aside, an apology followed by snark is never a good look.

@thecarpathian 

Sorry if you took that personally. You're also free to speculate all you want on what I did wrong in my transaction.

It's not possible for any here except the OP to know the details of this transaction

Yes, and he's not giving any, so people are free to speculate until he does.

It's not possible for any here except the OP to know the details of this transaction, however, I have been on eBay for a LONG time and have had 577 transactions, all as a buyer. Over the years, I have had only a handful of transactions that went wonky....until recently.

I saw a small pair of Polk speakers in a 'No Reserve' deal for $74.99 with free shipping so I went for it. I ended up being the only bidder, so I won. About an hour later, I got a notice that the deal was cancelled. When I looked at the reason for cancellation, it said "Buyer Cancelled".

I then sent a message to the seller explaining that I hadn't cancelled but, unsurprisingly received no response. Since the deal initially went through, I was able to leave feedback in which I gave the seller a negative and explained my reason. The next day, my feedback had disappeared along with any record of the transaction.

I then looked at the seller's 'Items for Sale' and there were the speakers with a starting price of $79.99 and a shipping cost of over $40. OK, I get it; he goofed and forgot to charge shipping.

I did a search on this and there are a whole bunch of buyers who are complaining about being falsely accused of cancelling an order. Ultimately, I didn't lose anything on the transaction, but it seems like a pretty tacky thing to do on the seller's part. Incidentally, the purchase price was not reimbursed for almost a week.