I recently bought a new power cord but there isn’t much difference in sound quality between this new cord and the previous Wireworld Elektra 7 which it replaces. The cords are used on the DAC.
Any ideas if the cord needs to burn in to open up and sound better? It currently has about 5 hours on it and I think I prefer the sound quality of the previous cord which costs 10 times cheaper.
How does one go about doing that? Here’s the actual text of the private e-mail. I’ll take bets on who it is (no real mystery here). This followed merciless attacks on me (because of my different opinion) in prior posts in a separate thread by this dude that were apparently removed:
“Shut up and learn some manners. I'm gonna ask you once politely in private.. I know who you are....
Just log back on under your real name, and act like a human, we'll get along just fine...
Regard..”
I have no idea what he’s talking about. I have one account and post as myself. You can read the thread itself for further psychotic babble in this same vein that follows another post of mine he apparently also found a way to have deleted.
If someone did actually threaten you in a private EMAIL, you should bring that to the attention of the moderators. Call it "tattling", but odds are you are not the first.
Can I get an Amen? I relish arrogant animosity, especially when it masquerades as something else. The motto here: “display bad manners in response to my reprehensible manners and your post may be removed”. Try it. Let’s see how long these posts last. For shame...
and yes, if only I were more sophisticated and had better hearing and a better system I would hear the difference
Oh, here it is: They stumbled in after a Trump rally, feeling a little feverish and itching for a fight. They know they're lowbrow and proud of it. Defensive over anything that reveals their lack of refinement seems to trigger, "Whaddya think- You bedda den ME? Anyone who has a trained ear can hear the difference between a serviceable power cord versus a superior one. Audio engineers spend years improving their products while word gets around about what's worth knowing about. In a nutshell, it's really resentment about the money that was spent and it irks them that they can't spend what they don't have.
Remember
b4icu from a couple of years ago, he claimed he could determine the "correct" speaker cable for your system by using the amps damping factor and the speaker model. He was a champion for using 0 gauge cable. Practical, attractive and easy to install. He could be the kenjit of cables, isn't that wonderful!
I love this BS... Just take that "recommended" power cable, and use it with your castle. By the time your tea will taste better, it will also sound better. The only thing that needs BI are mechanical or electromechanical components. Copper conductors? Need no BI. it's a dull statement of a saler to make you keep a product that made no difference at all and he really wants to keep the sale rather than reofun you. One of the best froud inventions of the Audio market.
... you will
never be able to detect that change unless we are talking shielded/no
shielded for a low level signal cable ...
In the words of attdavid, robertcan, roberttdid and probably other of your usernames who have since been blocked from A'gon, and in words you've posted under your current user name:
Facts submitted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
There is a difference between the same "specs" and measuring the same under a range of test conditions. If they measure the same under a variety of test conditions then it will be hard to tell them apart (just like what happens in blind testing, where people have a hard time telling differences if they are able to at all). Tubes rarely measure the same so there goes that out the window. Wire inside the amp ... you will never be able to detect that change unless we are talking shielded/no shielded for a low level signal cable or an undersized higher current carrying conductor. Good grounding actually shows up in detailed measurements.
" basic physics or true science" - do not solely dictate the sound of a component. Sure they are required for a desired function, however it is their ability to be pared with other components to produce ones' preferred sound. For example, let's compare 2 amps with the same specs or very close. Logic says they will sound the same, but do they? Maybe one has better quality parts, uses a different grounding system, better damped enclosure, better wire, better tubes, etc. Now, to some they might sound the same, to others, not so much. Why are the ones that hear the differences dissed for that? Is it because they are not part of the "good enough for me crowd"?
I was wondering if this was gonna happen. I'm saddened to say, I'll be proceeding, with a slightly different approach.
Your name will not be spoken, you will be publicly shunned, you will apologize to all openly and publicly. You and your views and writing will be stricken from the record of the publics mind, they will view it with distain.
You will always be seen for what you are, there will be NO quarter given.
Oh god, here we go with oldhvymec’s verbal vomitus and rhetorical mania again. He loves to entertain himself with prose only decipherable to himself. Regards
Yep, aside from real science and the principals of physics, cable burn in is a thing just like saturation is a thing. Auditory hallucinations can be obtained for the price of a coat hanger.
Please...
First post on this thread. Then has the nerve to whine about others using poor manners towards him. Wow! Seriously obtuse.
And translated literally from Latin, sir, it means "the thing speaks for itself"
Quite so. If that is what you meant, then that is what you could have said. But you didn’t, you wrote:
Res ipsa loquitur
... which has a very defined meaning in addition to its literal translation. Such is the nature of language. Please don’t complain to us about your careless use of a foreign language that you seem to not grasp well.
Many years ago, I was taking a medicine law class. The professor, a bombastic lawyer, would spring unanticipated questions on the unprepared class. One morning he directed this question to me: "What is your impression of the legal term res ipsa loquitur"? Being one of the unprepared but wiseass students and hoping to avoid further embarrassment, I replied, "Well, I think it speaks for itself." Boy, was I nonplussed!
"Invoking"? Face it bub, you didn’t invoke, you used.
It seems your last few posts show a distinct lack of listener skills and audio experience, while your writing skills are poor even when it comes to throwing insults, which seems to be your main reason for being here.
Not sure how you’re set up there but usually there’s a mouse or touch pad or sometimes touch screen, that can be used to click on over to other websites more appropriate to your particular sort of inclination. Wherever it is, I think you will be happier there. We sure will.
Hey, I am developing a fondness for oldhvymec's unusual ramblings. Sure, I don't have the same "belief" that he has in the differences between cables, but buried inside many of those posts is a much healthier skepticism than a lot of audiophiles.
tbakin6347 posts12-06-2020 4:03amOh god, here we go with oldhvymec’s verbal vomitus and rhetorical mania again. He loves to entertain himself with prose only decipherable to himself. Regards
Yep, aside from real science and the principals of physics, cable burn in is a thing just like saturation is a thing. Auditory hallucinations can be obtained for the price of a coat hanger.
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Thank you very much, I’ll return the insult AND raise you one. You’re a mighty fine person, I hope to get to know you..
I know who you are.... Funny guy.... we would have a great time together...
Cables are broken in not BURNT IN... Maybe that might help...
Let me see, take the 25,000.00 cables out of
tbakin6347 stocking and put in some manners and Maybe a little chunk of coal. :-)
I acquired a SR Power Conditioner on the used market. Considering what I paid for it, I was greatly underwhelmed with any if at all improvement over the one it replaced. I figured, "Live and Learn" and worked hard not to fret over the wasted money. About 7 - 10 days later the sound improvement was bizarrely much better. I mean, it was like I had a different system! This, I never would have believed until I experienced it first hand.
Does that DAC have a linear power supply? If so there is 25-100 ohms of wire in the transformer. Do the math
ryderOP1,074 posts12-04-2020 10:09pmThanks
for the responses. I'm seriously hoping for good things to come from
this new cord as it's a pretty heavy investment for me. I hope this
burn-in thing with cables is something that works ie. noticeably if not
drastically improved sound after the whole burning in is complete.
See my article at Dagogo.com entitled, "Audiophile Law: Thou Shalt Not Overemphasize Burn In", wherein I compared not only broken in products, but warmed up system to a cold system. The results were telling in regard to the phenomena of "burn in" and "warm up".
It would improve the standard of debate on this forum if people read the questions and replied to them with RELEVANT comment. The OP says he hears a difference and the old silly brigade comes out yet again saying "No you didn't. Cables don't make a difference'" The clue is in the question, but those who are self obsessed hi-jack and foister their ignorance on to others
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