Denafrips Terminator 2 bs. ?

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Buy a used Terminator plus like your friend has instead of a new (standard) Terminator 12th.  They are about the same price and a much better value.

I like the idea of the plus.  Hard to find the newer version 12th anniversary 

thanks for the input.  

There are a thousand dacs out there. No matter what you buy, you will always think maybe you should have bought something else. Buy the best you can responsibly afford and listen to music. 

The Terminator 12 is night and day better I sold the Gustard the terminator 

12 is a bit better then the2, for an extra $2k maybe less as a demo 

and beats the terminator plus12 th and Holo may KTE 

As a whole is the Very well reviewed T+A 200 dac that as a demo can be had for $6200 and has a Ton of technologies built in and a very good stand alone preamp 

if you wanted one ,not a cheap digital preamp, and has HQ player built in as a power option if you wanted to use it ,the program I think around $215 

an Excellent example of solid German engineering ,and Galvanically isolated on every level , read several reviews ,then look to find a dealer to demo it .

itsnot over 40 lbs likely terminator , it’s only 15 lbs. it replaces technologies over old style brawn,and sounds great doing it. It can go toe to toe with Any dac upto $15 k .

thst is the truth,in our multi state audio get together I have heard very good comparisons at the same 1-2 days   From Lampizator ,golden gate, chord Dave,

 Mola Mola , Bricasti 21SE , and a bunch of others , one dac may be fuller or more razor sharp in detail ,but as a whole theT+A very good and a keeper to 90% to owners who have one .

blah blah blah.

Buy what you want. Enjoy what you have.

Investigate what makes sound the way you like it.  Send your lonely Gustard  to me and I will upgrade that for a lot less then buying another DAC and you won't look back.  Look inside each model and then see how much they are different.  Probably not much as far as the best parts available.  So you will just be swapping out one for the other.  How much improvement are you hearing between the two units?  Is one 50% better than the other?  Probably not.

Well thank everyone or our comment though some are ridiculous and riddled with no value. For those who truly responded respectfully ; I thank you. 
I ordered the Denafrips after many outstanding reviews.  
I’ll be back to post my thoughts once I’ve done my evaluations.

This is a forum for learning and trying to appreciate experiences by hearing what others have already experienced, it’s for hackles and jokers who probably have an old Magnavox …… 

I have the Pontus ll 12th anniversary. It's still breaking in but I'm really enjoying it so far.   Happy listening 🎶.

I compared the Terminator Plus 12th and the T+A DAC200 and purchased the T+A.   Both were great.   I thought the T+A was a bit more musical and had a lot more dynamic presentation.   I did most of my listening to both in the R2R NOS mode, so I can’t speak to all the other filter options.   I’m not sure you could go wrong with either.

It really depends on your ears.

For example one person above says that the Terminator beats the Holo May KTE for sound quality, and I would disagree whole heartedly. I believe the Holo May is much, much more musical.

I am also auditioning the T+A now.

Well soon I will bring back my ears thoughts lol

thanks guys

Funny, I still have an ancient, still working fine, Magnavox CD player with the venerable TDA1541A DAC chip and yep, it sounds pretty good.

Seriously, good luck with the Terminator 2. I hope it does what you want. I’m probably going to "tap out" at the Pontus 2 - 12th and call it a day.

I own a Terminator 2 Plus. I listened to a Venus II prior and the T+ offered a small but important set of improvements. I have not listened to a 12th gen or a Gustard X26, so hard to say how it would compare. It did beat a number of SMSL and similar ESS pro based DACs in smoothness and presentation. The Denafrips do depth and air very well. If those are important qualities to you, then you will not be disappointed.

I have the following 3 DACS on rotation in my system via the USB output from a Lumin P1 (which has a killer internal DAC btw so I guess that makes 4 DACs actually):

Gustard R26 w/ external LHY OCK-2 clock

Weiss DAC204 w/ Ferrum Hypsos LPS

Lampizator Baltic V4 

Sold my Terminator II as it didn't hold up in terms of dynamics and resolution against the other DACS in my system, but its tonality and soundstaging was at least on par if not better than the Gustard and Weiss. I suspect the newest generation of the Plus would be on par across all parameters with the DACs I have but its price doesn’t make it a good value proposition.

IME the Baltic V4 is the best DAC at 10K or under I have had in my system so far, and by some margin. I think it is $7K new right now, but for pure price/quality ratio the Weiss /w LPS for $4K all in would be my choice as a recommendation especially if you like a big, bold resolving sound.

audioman58,

You’re post is unreadable.

I’m not sure what that means unreadable? There have been many comments and input given…. 

I've had a Terminator Plus for a few years now and was very pleased with it.  But I got the itch to try something else and demoed a DCS Bartok Apex.  I was surprised to hear quite a bit more detail, deeper soundstage, and much more pronounced bass (in a good way).  The DCS is a different price point so in that respect they are not compatible but I have to admit the DCS is quite different/better. 

Well ajhsu2 correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that retails for $20,000. If that’s anywhere near that price it’s 4x the Denafrips Terminator. I’m glad you are enjoying it. I received my unit today and just started warming it up. I’m happy to say I’m very pleased and thank everyone out there who helped make my decision.