Classical Top Five


If most will concede Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, and Brahms as " the given" top 4, who would you choose as number 5? 
jpwarren58
Mahler and Haydn.  Ditch the Brahms ...  but ... well, you know, those damn trios ...  then ... well, gotta include Dvorak, and then again there's Martinu and don't forget ... Damn! Chopin is probably the most influential of all, then ... well there's  Wagner of course ... or Cavalli ...  and Shostakovich, can't leave him out ... and ... and ...
Mahler, and dare I say.....

Rachmaninoff, if he didn’t have to stop composing and conducting in order to make a living as the greatest all-time pianist.
And, of course, Schubert and Haydn have to be mentioned.
Doesn't matter. It's not important who wrote what, what is important is that it was written.
All of the "Fifths" are great but the music I heard atop Mt. Olympus was created by Alan Hovhaness.
I love my Benjamin Britten. He was also a heck of a fine conductor. His recordings of Mozart's Symphonies 25 & 29 on London Decca are constantly on my 'table. String tone to die for, as well.
J.S. Bach is number 1.

2 and 3 are Beethoven and Schubert or Schubert and Beethoven.  Listen to Schubert's Lieder and piano sonatas then explain to me how he is not deserving of this ranking.

4 and 5 are Brahms and Haydn or Haydn and Brahms.

You can fill out a top10 with Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Mendelssohn, Schutz, and Mahler in whatever order suits you.  

I'd develop a separate list of post romantics.   Call me crazy, but Benjamin Britten might be at the top of that list for me.  Exquisitely crafted music.
SCHUBERT

And  Brahms is far ahead of Mahler, unless you like hearing dogs chasing their tales.
4 pioneers...
Kin to saying the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse set the table for the barechested q'anon shaman. 
I don't concede anything. I respect those 4 pioneers but much as I've tried to appreciate them, they quite simply bore me and there's nothing I can do about that.


1 - Stravinksy
2 - Bartok
3 - Shostakovich
4 - Holst
My two favorite composers, Bruckner and Mahler, definitely appear in the next five! One looking backward to Bach, the other presaging the Twentieth Century and Shostakovich!
I read a book once on this very topic! J.S.Bach was at the top! And a very persuasive case indeed was made for him!
I agree with tlayman18 that Haydn deserved inclusion in the Top Five. He practically invented the Classical Symphony - 104 of them, eh!
WAGNER UBER ALLES! The favorite composer of that notorious Austrian with the toothbrush mustache!
Sorry, but how can Mahler, Sibelius and Stravinsky be left out.  So, have to remove Haydn and probably Brahms.
Remove Brahms, insert Haydn.
#5... Schubert.

Later composers will be influenced by the top 5.

millercarbon -- On further thought I have to agree. Now, where's that tube of hydrocortisone to cure my illy itch?
Let's start a war. Toss Brahms!  Too stodgy! Go Mahler, Schubert, Stravinsky!