Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


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Johann Sebastian Bach
PARTITA NO.1 IN B-FLAT MAJOR, BWV 825
Murray Perahia (piano)
Sony Classical   2008-2009

Tidbits from the notes:  In Bach's day music was treated as a consumable commodity,  here one day, gone the next, so new pieces were required on an almost daily basis. --  Bach's music was rarely performed, but widely studied by academics and composers-including Mozart. --  There is scant evidence that Bach played any of his music in public. --  The set of six Partitas were the first works Bach published with the designation "Opus 1."

Praeludium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4mw0L-0Eg

Menuet I & II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyMEKW3zF3Q

Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vle0Jc7of-E

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BOLERO - ORCHESTRAL FIREWORKS
Minnesota Orchestra -- Eiji Oue
Reference Recordings HDCD
Recorded 2000

From The Notes: Extremely interesting snippets on the origin of each piece on this disc. "I have written only one masterpiece," Ravel said, toward the end of his life; "that is the bolero. Unfortunately, it contains no music."

Eiji Oue became the ninth music director of the Minnesota Orchestra in 1995. A native of Hiroshima, Japan. The Orchestra was founded in 1903. Has had some big time music directors over the years. Including Marriner, Dorati and Ormandy.

Rimsky-Korsakov: Tale of Tsar Saltan, Op. 57: Flight of the Bumblebee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YJDbVJoRJk

Klemperer: Lustiger Walzer (Merry Waltz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWK-MVlNshg

Brahms: Hungarian Dance No. 3 in F Major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kETy5k6ipiQ

Ravel: Bolero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_AFmqLbZU

Not my idea of ’Orchestral Fireworks’, but a nice collection.

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Bach is so great that we tend to act as if classical started with him .
 Truth is that from the 11th to 15th century there were composers at his level but they wrote things we don't listen to much today, as in religious
music .
You are right...

Obrecht and Tallis and one hundred other geniuses...

Hildegard of  Bingen is older but what a creative mind...


Another:

Pre 1600 !!!!! Stunning use of chromaticism and dissonance:
One of my favorite composer...

the Scriabin of the human voices....

He wrote like Scriabin not to move the human heart only  but to make it more vast and livelier...

Monteverdi use his art to express all there is, he create opera, but Gesualdo sometimes tear the human heart in two parts...One who suffers and the other who recreate....

Thanks for the magnificent unknown to me French interpretation...
NIGEL KENNEDY'S GREATEST HITS
Nigel Kennedy (violin)
EMI Classics  1989-2002

English Chamber Orchestra / Kennedy
City of Birmingham Symphony / Simon Rattle

The Notes:  Kennedy gives his thoughts on each tune.  Several nice pictures.

the lark ascending  (Vaughan Williams)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrVDwNt1Nz4

danny boy      (trad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keo0Xf4RUsY

scarborough fair   (trad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVFBVAtSZ7k

csardas   (Monti)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwrjjsh_aMs

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If you want to know if your system is good acoustically...

Listen to the voices surrounding you in this magnificent recording...A studio recording where the singers walk and plays together, one can hear when they turn their head singing... in some part the voices come from behind my back... The interpretation is in german inimitable... 

One of my loved modern opera....With the Busoni Faust....


The soul of an era.... Kurt weill with Lotte Lenya the best recording of the three pennies opera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR33bL5aNTk&t=850s
HI-FI FIEDLER
Boston Pops Orchestra - Arthur Fiedler
RCA Living Stereo SACD
Recorded in 1956, 1958 and 1960

This man did as much as anyone to popularize Classical Music. Always came across as, ’this should be fun’. It was for everyone to enjoy, not just the self-appointed ’elites’. Worked in my case. His cover art and musical selections said it all. Some say, ’light’ Classics, I say, ’the good stuff’.

Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 (Franz Liszt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaVL6uhZ7xA

William Tell - Overture (Gioachino Rossini)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ3xTFmYOwA

Marche slave (Piotr Tchaikovsky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl9VzrciZUk

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Johann Sebastian Bach
ENGLISH SUITES 1, 3 & 5
Piotr Anderszewski (piano)
Warner Classics  2014

Seems like a lot but they are all very short pieces.  

The notes give an account of the history of these works.   They also talk about 'repeats', for example --  "when all the repeats of the pieces are observed, the revised version can make for a rather awkward structure, skewing the formal balance of the suite away from the other movements"...Anderszewski

I have read other accounts of composers being criticized for using repeats.   I guess Bach, Beethoven etc... would say, "do you know who I am?"

Suite No. 3 in G Minor, Prélude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM8cP6tzKIY

Suite No. 3 in G Minor, Gigue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-td1Cw3OBg

Suite No. 1 in A Major, Prélude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSSdoR03Kms

Suite No. 1 in A Major,  Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQPiknYhggs

Suite No. 5 in E Minor,  Prélude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUej83R4sng

Suite No. 5 in E Minor,  Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2gCpa9hI0

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Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

SINFONIA CONCERTANTE IN E-FLAT K364
Vilde Frang (violin)
Maxim Rysanov (viola)
Arcangelo  --  Jonathan Cohen
Warner Classics    2015

allegro maestoso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXdYvB3rACs

andante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zfSICtEEIM

presto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0A896-KCG4

From the Notes:  "If Mozart was a good but unwilling violinist, he was more comfortable with the viola.  It was on this lower-timbred, usually supporting instrument that he played in string quartets with Haydn, and for which he composed some of his most personal works, including the 'Kegelstatt' Trio K498 and the Sinfonia concertante K364...is a milestone of compositional maturity."

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This has nothing to do with music but I have a question about sound.  If you’ve heard both Qobuz and Idagio, do you notice a difference in SQ between the two services?
@rvpiano      I have had both Qobuz and Idagio and I have noticed a difference between the two in that on CD quality 16/44 files there is not much difference. I do notice that Qobuz definitely has the edge in the higher resolution files with a blacker noise floor and a more dynamic presentation. The Idagio site on the other hand is far superior in the sheer diversity in it's classical library compared to Qobuz. If I look up something on Qobuz it will come up with a few different Artists and bands. If I look it up on Idagio there are a whole lot more to chose from and if your tastes are a bit eclectic then Idagio is certainly for you.
Jim,

Thanks for your observations. I certainly concur Idagio is the far superior search engine. 
I just acquired a new streamer that allows me to listen in hi res using Qobuz.
Oddly enough, however, there are times when Idagio sounds better to me, even though it’s not capable of hi res.

RV     Do you use Roon on your setup ?
I have my PC tuned with Roon playing Qobuz through it and It is a huge difference to Qobuz playing on it's own. Roon has been much improved lately and the sound quality is now very clean and dynamic. I would certainly recommend it.
I don’t use a PC, I use an iPad.
‘I tried to download the app  for a trial subscription.  Am having technical problems with the App Store.
Well, although I downloaded the Roon app and my streamer says it’s Roon ready, no Roon devices were located by the app.
Listening to Magnard's symphonies 1 and 2 on Hyperion.  He's no Bruckner and no Mahler, but they definitely have their moments.  Apparently he studied under d'Indy and died, rather tragically, at the beginning of WW1.
Just listening to Ravel’s “Scheherazade” for soprano and orchestra, maybe the most sensuous piece of music ever written.
Found it on Qobuz on an album including other Ravel works played by  I’Orchestre Philharmonique du Luxembourg.
A feast for the ears.

@rvpiano, it sounds like you installed the Roon Remote app on your iPad and expected it to connect with your streamer. Roon doesn’t work like that. You must install and run Roon Core on a computer (PC/Mac/Linux), which connects with your streamer. The iPad would be used like a remote control for the Roon Core on the computer. See the Roon website: https://roonlabs.com/howroonworks
rv, one of my favorite works by Ravel.  Sensuous indeed.  I will check out the Luxembourg, thanks.  Try this one on for size.  The sometimes forgotten Victoria de Los Angeles sounds glorious:

https://youtu.be/BOntupq6yGM

https://youtu.be/Sir3Ap5lbAc

https://youtu.be/lATgEroT4vA
Btw, since on the subject of sound quality and as a point of interest. Here is what I believe is the version from the original master, not the remastered version above. I believe it to be so because I own both versions and I hear the same issues. An example of perhaps needing to not tamper with success and leave well enough alone. The remaster “improves” clarity at the expense of a bit of digititis with a slight thinness in the upper registers and less well integrated vocal sibilants. The original sounds slightly covered up top, but sibilants are well integrated and don’t sound like artifacts; and the performance sounds even more relaxed. We pick our poison.

Neither gets in the way of the fabulous performance.

https://youtu.be/pyeE7zcJkSc
frogman,

You are so right.  The remaster  is screechy and just about unlistenable. The original reveals the wonderful performance and does justice to the piece.
Beethoven
THE LATE STRING QUARTETS
Takacs Quartet
Decca  2003 - 2004
3CD set   with booklet

From the notes:
The quartet was formed in 1975 in Budapest and since 1983 has been  in residence at the University of Colorado, Boulder.

"Beethoven's series of late string quartets formed his main creative preoccupation during the final years of his life.  To many listeners these five works contain the most profoundly personal and spiritual music he ever wrote." -- Misha Donat

Just a Sample:

String Quartet No. 12 in E-Flat Major, Op. 127 - Scherzo: vivace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyxiKYEhEEs

String Quartet No. 14 in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - 5. Presto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5_j2QCVIA

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Mozart
CONCERTOS FOR 2 & 3 PIANOS
Katia & Marielle Labeque  (piano)
Berliner  Philharmoniker  --  Semyon Bychkov
Philips Classics  1989

Notes: Excellent booklet with a nice picture of the sisters.  "The concerto in F for three pianos was written for Countess Antonia Lodron, the sister of Mozart's unloved employer..."

Piano Concerto No.7 In F Major, K. 242 - "Lodron" -  Allegro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INiwh_bfI8c

Piano Concerto No.7 In F Major, K. 242 - "Lodron" -  Adagio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeBVtHMEweM

Mozart: Piano Concerto No.7 In F Major, K. 242 - "Lodron" -  Rondeau (Tempo di menuetto)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ebTPwYVdY

Pray, they will avoid the wrath of The Frogman this time around.

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Just watching the  “Horowitz in Vienna” video and it occurred to me that this man is akin to one of the great treasures in the world of art: the Sistine Chapel ceiling, the Taj Mahal, Donatello’s David, etc.  Though a re-creator, the rarity of his genius is no less an accomplishment than that of actual creators.  To touch the heart and soul as he did is parallel.
Playing Viennese music in a Vienna concert hall was an elemental force to the listeners there. 
Such superability comes to this earthly terrain not often.
Starting a few years ago, I pretty much lost all my interest in classical music from the common practice eras (1600-1900). I was not exactly happy about the situation, since a large part of my music collection has been sitting dormant since then.

I listen to more classical music than I ever have, but most of it is from the mid 20th century until the present era. As well as, Bartok, Stravinsky, Barber, Britton, and the 2nd Viennese school.

So, since my tastes lean toward the 'thorny', YMMV...

This LP on the Varese Sarabande label, has a huge, well defined soundstage, and great imaging. 

Ernst Krenek - Static and Ecstatic

Performed by the LA Chamber Orchestra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIwJGEOS6mY


Beethoven
GEORGE SZELL CONDUCTS BEETHOVEN
Symphonies Nos, 1 - 9  -  Overtures
Symphony No. 5
The Cleveland Orchestra -- George Szell
Sony Classics    5CD Box    No Booklet or notes.

No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: I. Allegro con brio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPSHXW0Vv60

No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: II. Andante con moto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQMSjO6R0Y

No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: III. Scherzo. Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF2AtW0PF3s

No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: IV. Finale. Allegro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSc-M-80f-w

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Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky

PIANO CONCERTO NO.1 IN B-FLAT MINOR, OP.23
Lang Lang (piano)
Chicago Symphony  --  Daniel Barenboim
DG  2003

Great Booklet with lots of information. 

From The Notes: 
The Chicago Symphony played Tchaikovsky's B flat minor Concerto at its very first concert in 1891, two years before the composers death.
     Nikolia Rubenstein's claim that Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto was unplayable is one of music history's most famously mistaken first impression.
     After hearing the entire work, Rubenstein did not mince words, declaring the solo part was impossible to play and that the music itself was vulgar.  When he suggested it needed to be completely recomposed, Tchaikovsky insisted he would not change a note.
     Eventually it was played by Hans von Bulow in Boston in 1875, where it was a big hit.   The rest is history.

Allegro non troppo e molto maestose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h_0cr7CiCU

Andantino semplice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8pi8IvYhfU

Allegro con fuoco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV2KRF1zbiU

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If this isnn‘t classical music I don‘t know what is.

I'll go with option B; you don't know what is.


George Gershwin

RHAPSODY IN BLUE / AN AMERICAN IN PARIS
Earl Wild  (piano)
Boston Pops  --  Arthur Fiedler
RCA Living Stereo  SACD   1959 / 2005

Excellent booklet with tons of info on Gershwin and the music.  " He is a link between the Jazz camp and the intellectuals..." A Critic

I always thought the Jazz Camp were the intellectuals.   Silly me.

An American in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQGaAbKshvs

Rhapsody in Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfdFiFWsTa0

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Luciano Pavarotti

PAVAROTTI'S GREATEST HITS
Another blast from the past.  DM69.95 from some place called, Muller. 
Decca   2CD set.   1968 - 1980

Amazing Booklet with the lyrics of all the songs on the two CDs.  In several languages!   They don't make them like this anymore.

Puccini: Turandot / Act 3 - "Nessun dorma!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJlnl4JxQE&list=OLAK5uy_mdpfkbCAgj99QnD3OG_hifjNuhUxG5UDM&i...

Donizetti: La fille du régiment / Act 1 - Ah mes amis - Pour mon âme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_FuB2JYcZ8

De Curtis: Torna a Surriento (Arr. Chiaramello)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyAquu_c15w&list=OLAK5uy_mdpfkbCAgj99QnD3OG_hifjNuhUxG5UDM&i...

Verdi: Rigoletto / Act 3 - "La donna è mobile"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-nx9LaGw6s&list=OLAK5uy_mdpfkbCAgj99QnD3OG_hifjNuhUxG5UDM&i...

Puccini: Tosca / Act 3 - "E lucevan le stelle"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWbakwE-C_o&list=OLAK5uy_mdpfkbCAgj99QnD3OG_hifjNuhUxG5UDM&i...

And many more.

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Anne-Sophie Mutter

THE BERLIN RECITAL
Anne Sophie Mutter(violin), Lambert Orkis(piano)
DG  1995 

Not only a great violinist, but also, a Stone Fox.

Notes:  "That indefatigable conversationalist, Johann Peter Eckermann, once asked Goethe, more or less in passing, why the phenomenon of precociousness was so widespread among musicians.  The great man answered without hesitation:  music, he said, was something entirely innate, something inborn, a gift that needed no outward stimulus to sustain it and was not based on real-life experience."

Mozart: Sonata For Piano And Violin In E Minor, K.304 - 1. Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwCXYG2W0c

Brahms: Hungarian Dance No.5 In G Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVTuFLIUNH4

Brahms: Scherzo In C Minor For Violin & Piano (From The FAE-Sonata)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJnYL0twLEA

"Anne-Sophie Mutter's highly developed musicianship is "something entirely innate, something inborn" to quote Goethe.  Such gifts can never be coerced.  -- Peter Fuhrmann

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Great post! 

I cannot resist to say that a man able to argue against Newton  with success in his own field cannot be call wrong often....

😊

Thanks for the music.....
A one hour piano lesson by the greatest teacher of piano in the last century if we take the ratio : greatest pianists student/common teacher as a rule...

Heinrich Neuhaus....

His personal life is a teaching about life also....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzMsqH1j8tc


This video is not "good" and difficult to watch but lesson of the Great Neuhaus are rare...


Here more easy and not less interesting the "not russian" but great Pollini speaking and playing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMpcUEVijyE


There is a remarkable set of the nine Beethoven symphonies recorded by Herbert Blomsted in 2017 when he was 90, in just about ideal sound, it really soars in performance as well.  It may not be HIP, but it’s modern nonetheless in vision. Highly recommended.
On Qobuz in hi res sound.
Close all the windows.
Boost the volume full throttle
 and listen to the
“Ode to Joy..” 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I just ordered the set from Presto.
rvpiano -- currently listening to the Qobuz/Blomsted/Beethoven Sixth. A treat...even if the 'buz dropped the stream of the First Movement part of the way through. So I clicked on the Second Movement. Superb so far (fingers crossed).
mahgister, thank you for the wonderful Neuhaus and Pollini clips.  I enjoyed them immensely.  What a great teacher of interpretation Neuhaus was.

“(Play it) a little more worried”, “...as if there is a sigh”

 Wonderful!
Kathleen Battle - Wynton Marsalis

BAROQUE DUET
Kathleen Battle(soprano), Wynton Marsalis(trumpet)
Orchestra of St. Luke's  --  John Nelson
Sony Classical  1990-1991

Wynton has the facial expression of the cat that caught the canary.  Informative booklet with nice photo of Kathleen and Wynton on the back.  And front. :)

Scarlatti: from 7 Arie con Tromba Sola: 1. Si suoni la tromba (Voice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwGzgdL9QY

Handel: Let the Bright Seraphim from Samson, HWV 57 (Voice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7TPce4xLm0

Bach: Cantata No. 51 "Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen", BWV 51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TAg5H81xh4

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  • From an internet review of Blomstedt’s new Beethoven Symphony cycle: “certainly among the greatest Beethoven cycles ever recorded.”
  • I agree!