Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


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2 CD set of Vladimir Sofronitsky, one disc a Chopin recital and the second a Scriabin recital.  The Chopin was great but doesn't displace Moravec, but the Scriabin is truly other-worldly.  I don't know if it has something to do with the acoustic of the recording space or the piano.  Or perhaps it really is just Scriabin's sonorities...
Listening to Helene Grimaud performing Chopin Piano Sonata 2.  The piano recording sounds very good to me, as does the interpretation.
Arrau's complete Liszt Etudes.
Who knows this recording well?

The piano image is remarkably high, as if it were up on a raised stage and you were down in a seat close by.

Also the bass/lower midrange seems remarkably, err, generous.  I'm not complaining, it just brings home again how many ways a single piano can sound different when recorded.
Finishing up my complete Chopin survey on a high note (no pun intended).  The complete (2 CDs) Nocturnes, with Garrick Ohlsson.  I'm a sucker for his wonderful rubato.  To me, this is how Chopin should sound.

Listen to the first 1’ 30" and see if you don’t want to keep on listening.

Parry, Symphony no. 5

 

The Buniatishvili phenomenon is quite interesting.  I searched professional reviews of the Schubert disc, and just about all the critics disliked it or struggled to say something nice about it.

On Amazon it has something like 175 reviews, and 95% of those are 5 stars.  I guess I'm with the hoi polloi.

I agree that her technique in the Impromptus is phenomenal.
I've been comparing Buniatishvili’s Rach 2 with Valentina Lisitsa's Rach 2 back to back, movement by movement.  The verdict: Lisitsa's is clearly superior.  Ironically, this has very little to do with the pianism.  Lisitsa's orchestral accompaniment is distinctly better and, above all, the recording is head and shoulders better than what they managed for Khatia.  VL is highly recommended.
Schumann, Humoreske, Novelletten, Nachtstucke, Piano Sonata #2 / Andras Schiff.  Live recording by ECM, 2 CDs.  Not surprisingly it being ECM, the piano recording is excellent, and Schiff is on top form for his audience.
Third Vivaldi Four Seasons recommendation: for sheer excitement, you can't bear Fabio Biondi + Europa Galante.
I've been plugging through the Hyperion 19C piano concerto series, with many worthy but ultimately forgettable pieces.  Last night listened to some Scharwenka concertos, that were surprisingly good.  On Collins, though I see he's on Hyperion as well.  If you're tired of Grieg, Schumann, Tchaikovsky, etc., give it a try.

Johnny R (audioconnection) used to carry the Belles, but now I see they're gone from the website.

Back to classical.  Farrar, Orchestral Pieces, on Chandos, is superb-sounding, a notably deep soundstage and some great bass thwacks.  Style is post-Elgar/Vaughn Williams.  (Warning: don't set the volume on the basis of the first few seconds of track 1, or you'll be in for a surprise.)

@sevs Here's one that you might like a lot.  Dobrinka Tabakova, "String Paths", on ECM.  Mix of chamber music and orchestral.  There are a couple of wonderfully melting slow movements.
Now you've mentioned Lupu, one of my all-time-favorite piano recordings is Lupu with Brahms Op. 117, 118, 119.  Sublime music played sublimely.
No, no, even better (if that's possible) than the other RV-W suggestions, all of which are great, are his Five Variants on Dives and Lazarus.  I have the Chandos recording.  Bliss.
A couple more.  R. Strauss's Alpine Symphony is remarkably neglected for a composer boasting a number of warhorses.

And talking of warhorses, an excellent "demonstration disk" is Patrick Doyle's theme music for the movie Henry V; Simon Rattle + CBSO.  There are some stirring moments.

At the risk of stating the obvious: Tallis Scholars, Allegri, "Miserere".

I've listened to a good deal of this style of music, and this piece and this recording still come out tops.  In my secondary system which is in a room with a cathedral ceiling (no pun intended) the acoustics are extraordinary.


@sevs As I type this, listening to Valentin Silvestrov: Symphony 5 + Postludium (Sony).  Verdict is still out, but you might try it and see what you think.  Not a strong recommendation, more of a try before you buy.
If you enjoy Mozart and similar, but just want a slight change, here's Ignaz Pleyel, Symphony 3/ 2nd Symphonie Concertante/ 6th Symphonie Periodique.  On CPO.

Beautiful, spacious, well-balanced recording.  (Or perhaps it's just my system finally coming together and relaxing.)

At the risk of going slightly OT, seems like this is best directed at readers of this thread.

Has it occurred to anyone else that Mahler must have heard the Adagietto from Bizet's L'Arlesienne Suite no. 1 before he composed his own, utterly sublime, Adagietto in Symphony 5?  The more I listed to the Bizet, the more I hear echoes...

Does anyone have the Oliveira CD of him playing different Stradivarius and Guarneri violins?  Instead of using one's system to hear the more or less subtle differences in the sonorities, I was wondering if one could take those differences for granted, and instead use the CD for testing the resolving power of different systems.
Concordia Viols, "Crye" (English Viol Music), on Metronome CD.  Wonderful music and wonderful recording.
I have the Ashkenazy/Maazel recording on London, but haven't listened to it in ages.  Pulled out and up for listening soon.
In similar vein, listened to a Dyson Chandos CD yesterday and wasn't bowled over.
Listened to the Scriabin.  The sound stage on the Ashkenazy recording on my system was magnificently set back, almost beyond the front wall behind the speakers.  When the piano came in, it was like exquisite, limpid, droplets of notes from the clearest of mountain cascades.  Delightful!
Years ago I was able to go to a concert of Prometheus: Poem of Fire with the color effects that Scriabin stipulated.  It was definitely fun, but not ultimately necessary.

Scriabin was very taken with that whole Symbolist doctrine (involving synaesthesia) of correspondences between the senses. See Rimbaud’s poem on the different "color" of each of the vowels of the alphabet.

This was in Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, years ago. There was definitely some correlation of the more obvious sort (darker sonorities, dark blue, brighter, yellow, louder, red, etc.), and it was interesting as a curiosity, but you ended up thinking about those possible correspondences rather than just immersing in the music.


P.S. D'Albert two piano concertos in the Hyperion 19C series last night.  Pleasant, but not compelling...

Here's a vote for Rachel Podger, she's quite well established now but I heard her years ago and remember thinking then that she was going places.  I have a few CDs by her, and they never fail to please.

Today's recommendation: Corelli, Violin Sonatas, Op. 5, Avison Ensemble on Linn, 2 CDs.

I've been hooked on Mahler for decades.

The first set of LPs I got were by Solti, so to a large extent I learnt them all in his interpretation, and as we all know, teenagers are impressionable, and his way has become for me in many ways the right way.

That being said, I will admit a soft spot for Bernstein.  His romantic way with the slow movements seems right--to me at least.

Then there are a number of other conductors' individual versions of symphonies that are great.

I'll pull out my favs and post a list later.

Whole symphony: 2nd.

Cherry-picked slow movements: 5th, 6th, 9th, 3rd.

Least liked: 8th; second least-liked, 7th.

Overall, I'll put in a vote for Sinopoli.

Individual recordings:

Kaplan 2 should be heard

Welser-Most delicious 4 (I recommend the 4th as a gateway symphony to Mahler)

Barbirolli 5

Rattle 10

@rvpiano Didn't you get a Belles amp that you liked?  I thought that worked out OK.  I'm already anticipating the release of the new integrated, the Belles Virtuoso.

Took up clarinet at age 11.  Played in all sorts of school orchestras (very musical school).  Nothing like experiencing it "from the inside".  Continued on in scratch bands through college.  Friend at high school--father had a "fancy" stereo for back then, expensive Garrard deck, etc. etc., played me Mahler for the first time.  A revelation.  Soon after heard a series of broadcasts of Bernstein performances.  Though by then I'd already started collecting Solti on Decca.

Although my first love is late Romantic/decadent big symphonic movement, I've recently completed a thorough exploration of Stylus Fantasticus, from early Italian origins through Bohemians et al.  In many ways I find it more enjoyable than the "predictability" of the high Baroque (Bach, Handel, Telemann, Vivaldi, etc.).

OK, so the natural "progression" (backwards) from Mahler is to Bruckner.  Over the years, here's what I've acquired based on a whole variety of recommendations.

#0: Chailly, RSO Berlin

#1: Sawallisch, Bayerisches Staatsorchester

#2: Solti, Chicago SO

#3 [first version]: Inbal, Radio-Sinfonie-Orchester Frankfurt

#4: Jochum, Berlin PO

#5: Haitink, Vienna PO

#6: Klemperer, New Philharmonia O

#7: Inbal, R-S-0 F

#8: Chailly, RSO Berlin; Haitink, Concertgebouw; Ballot, Oberosterreichisches Jugendsinfornieorchester

#9: Walter, Columbia SO; Giulini, Vienna PO; [completed version] Schaller, Philharmonie Festiva

Number of CDs clearly reflects preferences among the ten.

I've heard Celibidache in concert, and am surprised to find I don't have any recordings of his.  What the "best" interpretation of any of these that I'm missing?

Found the NGRSO 8 coupled with the 9th for cheaper than the 8th on its own.  Added to cart.

+1 to pianist recommendations.  I also like Vladimir Ashkenazy.

For earlier keyboard, Andreas Staier is really hard to beat.  Top choice for me.


If you enjoy Chopin and Liszt piano concertos (as I do), check out John Field.  There are a couple of recordings, both good.  Also, get his Nocturnes.  I like John O'Conor's recordings on Telarc.  Enough to buy also, back in the day, the set of Beethoven sonatas.  Good balance of performance and recording quality.

Here's another name, Andrew Manze, to add to Andreas Staier, Rachel Podger, etc., as a great modern musician.  Both as a performer and a conductor, there hasn't been a disc of his that I haven't liked.  (We can't always stay wrapped up in Walter and Dorati.)

And while I think of it, another Andrew, Lawrence-King, with another across-the-board recommendation, though his Spanish Dances CD is very special.

Wow!  Try McEwen's symphonic works on Chandos, including Solway symphony.  This remarkably recorded CD will really give your system a full work-out.
I know this will come as no surprise, but the Segerstam Sibelius 3 & 5 is also excellent. Listening to it now... In the last movement of the 5th when that low brass figure comes in over the strings, it always gives me the shivers...

The last movements of 2, 3 and 9 are all clear runners up, but I’m a sucker for the Adagietto in 5.

Otherwise: Vaughan Williams, Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus.

@newbee Do you still have your Boleros? (-:

The KZ Chopin concertos have been my go-to for years.  He floats the piano part in, as you say, a magically lyrical way.

Do you have the Radu Lupu late Brahms piano pieces?  If not, I'm 99% you'd really like them.

How are the Schubert Piano Duets?

The earlier Rachmaninov Preludes disc seems to have got good but not universally good reviews (Amazon).

Just listened last night to Teodor Currentzis/MusicAeterna's performance of Tchaikovsky's 6th (Pathetique).  On Sony Classics.

WOW.  DOUBLE WOW.  An extraordinary rendition.

Crank up the volume, turn out the lights, sit back, and prepare to be... well, overwhelmed.

[If anyone listens to this, can you report back on what you hear re. soundstaging and the orchestral seating.  I hear divided violins, left and right, but also double basses hard left, which was a little disconcerting.]

So many nominations.  But how about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttd9IhuZYqo 

And if you have 5-0 minutes, do try the Currentzis. (Hint, he makes Bernstein sound cool, calm and collected.)
Here's a real revelation for me.  Mendelssohn, complete piano music, played by Howard Shelley, on Hyperion.  The playing is excellent, the recording is superb (the piano is in my room), and the music has come as a most pleasant surprise.  I started with vol. 2 as that's the CD that arrived first: Rondo, Fantasias, Lieder, etc.  Delicate, lyrical, and muscular, forceful by turns, I'm enjoying this more than a recent transversal of Schumann.  Highly recommended.
Just got the Igor Levit, "Life" CD on recommendation from here.  I'm loving it (disc A).  Superlative playing and some the best recorded piano sound I've heard in a while.

@jim204 I listened to disc 2 last night and liked it even more than 1.  I found the playing meditative--perhaps matching my mood.  I also think the recorded piano sound is superlative, at least I was really liking what I heard on my system.

Also, does this new recording outdo one of my desert-island-discs, the Radu Lupu recording of late Brahms?  Hard to imagine that it could.

I just saw that Steven Hough had come out with a new disc of Brahms 116, 117, 118 & 119.

Anyone heard it?

Any thoughts on it--or some other cherished version--vs. the great Lupu?

@jim204 Thanks!

I embarked recently on a listening journey through piano concertos.  Started with Dussek, worked through Beethoven, and last night was three from Hummel.  Beautifully played by Stephen Hough.  What happened to him?  I remember he made a splash with a number of recordings and those two "Piano Albums".  Then.... ?

Who's up next.  Chronology will decide.  John Field must be approaching.

Listened to Field ## 1 and 2 last night, John O'Conor, and so far I have to say I prefer the Nocturnes, which are absolutely delicious.  We'll see if I like 3-7 better.  1 & 2 were obviously heading in the direction of Chopin, but frustratingly neither quite enough character of their own, and not quite Chopin-esque enough.