Classical Music for Aficionados

If this isnn‘t classical music I don‘t know what is.

To be more clear, it seems like @rvpiano is creating the top state, but the system is actually in the center state.

But by reversing each channel, would create the bottom state, the correct one.

Unless I am misunderstanding what @rvpiano is describing.

Unless I am misunderstanding what @rvpiano is describing, this does not sound correct to me:

It just so happens that my Conrad-Johnson preamp is phase inverting, which means the cables should be black to black on one speaker and on the other speaker black to RED.

From what I understand, and I thought I understood it pretty well:

When a component reverses absolute phase, that means both channels reverse phase in the same way. So, in order to correct the reverse phase, each channel has to be connected to the speakers in the same way, red to black, black to red, so each channel is getting the + terminal connected to the - terminal, and vice versa. So both channels have all the speaker drivers moving in the same direction.

The way @rvpiano is describing it, he will have the drivers on one speaker moving forward, when the drivers on the other are moving backwards.

This does not seem to be correcting absolute phase, but putting each speaker out of phase with each other.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Not trying to be insulting, but just trying to clarify my own understanding.

@rvpiano 

Some people argue that there is no sonic difference with systems being wired out of absolute phase.

But, with music like classical (and a lot of acoustic jazz), where: all the musicians are playing at the same time, in the same acoustic space, and the recording engineer took good efforts to capture the spatial cues, the ambience of the acoustic space, the musicians position within it, etc., there is a definite difference. 

And of course, you are pointing out exactly where those differences are: soundstage, imaging, etc. 

The human auditory system evolved to be able to discern interaural time differences between our ears as low as 7-10 microseconds. We leverage this ability when we hear soundstage and imaging on our audio systems. 

This is what gives us (and our ancestors) the ability to tell if a snapping twig in a forest is in front or behind us, about how far, etc., in case it is a predator.

Our auditory system is better at this when to initial waveform of the noise is rising, not falling. So, when our systems are in correct absolute phase, sounds are rising when they should be, and falling when they should be. And we hear that difference in our audio systems as better imaging and soundstage. 

I would guess, that people that don't think there is any difference, are listening to music that was recorded in a studio, with: overdubs, panning, delay, use of multiple mono mics on each instrument, etc. So, any hope of hearing natural spatial cues, has been masked by all the studio effects. 

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