I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music. I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration. Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists. Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.
I’ll start with a list of CDs. Records to follow in a later post.
Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor. Mahler: Des Knaben Wunderhorn. Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor. Prokofiev: Scythian Suite et. al. DG — Chicago Symphony Abbado, conductor. Brahms: Symphony #1. Chesky — London Symph. Orch. Horenstein, conductor. Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova. Mandell, conductor. Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond. Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.
All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.
Well rv, old buddy and Great Leader , if there is any little bit of Bruckner you might tolerate , my guess it might be this little bit .(for Bruckner) .
Len my friend thank you for your words , you are very kind. We seem to be on the same planet regarding lots of things and especially music. I have always loved Kurt Masur and did you know that none other than Claudio Arrau revered Masur especially when going over Europe concertizing. We are in good company then. I also love deep in my heart the German Romantic tradition, Wagner excepted. I am glad that music in Germany is still in rude health. The new German Baroque Orchestras that have sprung up in the last 10 years has been so great with the Freiburg band a notable example. I hope you are feeling a bit safer now you have had your 2 jabs. Be safe my friend ,
slangevar Jim.
I used to say what was the difference between an American house -painter and a German one .
Ans . Neither knew LvB ’s music from a rock , but the American says he doesn’t listen to that uppity trash, and the German said , O’ Great man, Great man !
When you get into the German grove, hard to live anywhere else , you always know where you are and where you are likely to be.
I did know that about Arrau . My wife and I often went down to Liepzig in the DDR to hear the Gewandhaus and Masur , About 3 bucks US . Americans could do that anytime .
At times we had been at the Berlin with von Karajan the day before . Many the day we both thought Masur and company the better of the two.
Every man in the Gewandhaus was trained in the Leipzig School and with the original Mendelssohn scores , Now . that’s old school !
Cheers . Len
P.S., Jim , here is another Piano man who liked Masur . https://youtu.be/76DXQLbXEks?t=1 I've said it and I don't regret it , You just don't need more .
Every year towards Easter I play most of the greatest Religious Pieces. On here 2 hours + will not fly . This Great Vesper from perhaps the Greatest Russian composer of modern times solves that and is fantastic .
Been listening to Paul Badura-Skoda, some very old recordings. some modern piano, some historic pianos. "He is the only person to have recorded the complete piano sonatas of
Mozart, Beethoven, and Schubert on both historic and modern instruments." The more I listen, the more I like.
Many of the National Service men stayed in Germany when they found out how well off the other side was. And how the German lass’s had all their teeth .
@schubert Hi Len I have just got round to good old Alfred's Emperor concerto and must say he and Mazur were certainly enjoying the experience. I also listened to some of your pipe band records and it took me back to the sixties when I used to play in the Ayr Pipe Band but gave it up because I was always getting tinnitus so I stayed with the guitar and lute.
I knew Pipers and Drummers that did and more ,Jim .
My youngest Aunt was an excellent Highland dancer . Came in 2nd at the greatest Highland Games in North American , Maxwell. Ontario , damn near deaf .
I would think a Band from Ayr must be a good one.
God Blessed me in all that , hear well as ever and have 20/20 no glasses well in my eighties , was 20/10 in my youth , came in handy as a Infantryman .
simao, I need to get after that .
I’m clueless why , but I have heard "Peer Gynt" a least a thousand times and yet every time seems like the first time . Only piece that does .
@schubert I found my copy the other day tucked away in a record store for $6.99. Cleaned it and was impressed by how enfolding the music was, not to mention the organic precision of von Karajan's conducting.
Lots of good recordings out there: Toscanini/ Philadelphia in Schubert's 9th Sym; his Brahms 1st Sym with NBC; all the Pierre Monteux on London/Decca, RCA, and Philips, especially his Swan Lake excerpts, Elgar/s Enigma Variations, and Brahms Sym 2 and Franck D minor Sym; Rubinstein in the Chopin Scherzos; Karel Ancerl and the Czech Phil in Dvorak's New World, Sym 9; Dvorak's Slavonic Dances with Szell and Cleveland; Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet with Maazel and Cleveland orchestra. and so forth.......
Jim, our "Syracuse Scottish " wasn't all that much.
We did have one VERY good Piper , a 18 yr old lad who wandered in the Stadium in Syracuse during our Highland Games . He had never head a pipe but in two years my uncle, Dan McGill , a good technical piper, had him winning solo in real Highland Games and us the odd ribbon .
And oh , he was 100 % Italian from a wealthy family who took the lad to Scotland and bought him the best pipes in the land !
I never thought about it before, but that's so true, our genre chooses us. That's why so many great jazz musicians are from Detroit and Chicago.
I was in Detroit when it was "the" greatest city in this country for the working man. It seemed everybody drove a brand new car, dressed well and lived in a nice home.
Michael Moore, who's from that area, thought they were rich when he was a child; he always got what he wanted for Christmas and his family went on a vacation every year. His father worked on an assembly line, the same as other people in the Detroit area who enjoyed a high standard of living.
Len, I think I'll try to learn about Classical music, but I didn't like Bach.
I remember when this was the Theme for the NBC nightly news, with David Brinkley and Chet Huntley. This was before we had channels devoted to either Left-wing liars or right-wing liars. Back then, they just reported what happened that day. Seems sort of quaint now.
How true rok , everyone of us not in the 1% has been the frog in the warming pot for decades . "Fascism is when you can't tell the difference between the State and the Corporation." B. Mussolini
Steve Reich: All Nonesuch and Elektra-Nonesuch recordings
John Adams: All Nonesuch and Elektra-Nonesuch recordings
Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring, Kent Nagano & London Philharmonic Orchestra
Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring, Esa-Pekka Salonen,
Los Angeles Philharmonic
Salonen: Cello Concerto, Yo-Yo Ma & Los Angeles Philharmonic
Ravel: Piano Concertos / Martha Argerich, Claudio Abbado & Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Schumann: Concerto For Piano And Orchestra In A Minor, Op. 54 / Sviatoslav Richter, Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra; Concerto For Cello And Orchestra In A Minor, Op. 129 / Mstislav Rostropovich, Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra
Very interesting Modern Mass intended for The Death of Christ . https://youtu.be/wVRLoUknC9o?t=1 Never stops amazing me how amazingly musical of the highest order the Czechs are .
I liked Beethoven’s Symphony No. 9, 2nd movement, it had drama and movement.
Classical Music:
It was not ’Classical’ when it was written. More like ’Popular’ or church music among the powers that were. All Classical music is not created equal. Even from the same Composer. All performances of the same Classical piece are not equal. No One likes it all. In some cases, even the composer did not like what he had written.
Beethoven wrote 9 symphonies. 1,2,4,& 8 are not in the same league as 3,5,6,7 & 9. And 9 is in a class of it’s own.
So find the stuff you like, and explore that.
Cheers
Everything follows a bell curve. IOW, the more modern it is, the more noisy it gets.
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