You'll want a decent player, maybe a Cambridge 851C?
CD Player Recommendations…
Looking for CD player recommendations that mate well with a Musical Fidelity A308 integrated and Revel F30 speakers. Cabling is Discovery Essential speaker cables and matching Essence interconnects. I’m thinking the player should be on the neutral to perhaps slightly recessed/relaxed mids to synergize with the A308 and F30’s more forward characteristics.
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With that nice amp and speakers, go with something that has R2R Multibit conversion to give "bit perfect" replay of cd’s Use the search and look for a new/used unit here that use the best of the older R2R chips which are the PCM1702 (great) and PCM1704 (best) Burr brown chips. http://vasiltech.narod.ru/CD-Player-DAC-Transport.htm Cheers George |
The 851C is superior to.the 840C in everyway imaginable. Had the 840C for many years, upgraded to the 851C and have this player for the last 8 years. The 840C is a good player, but be careful as some of the older ones had some cheap (bad) capacitors which WILL cause player failure. Mine included. Cost about $100 to be repaired and a months down time for repair and shipping both ways. |
CD players with chips from Texas Instruments, Burr Brown, Wolfson, and in-house are some of the best. Each CD player will have different sonic benefits. Detail retrieval, bass accuracy, midrange transparency, and treble resolution can translate differently on any number of CD players. Along with this, transient response is important. If your CD player sounds "slower" on certain songs and "very fast" on others, it's doing something right. Most DACs would gloss over timing irregularities - unless they were high-end. My suggestion would be going for a CD player that was designed with the intent of reproducing the original sound. A component like this will challenge the rest of your set up. You will know if it's time for an upgrade after that. |
If your going CD only as the title says, look carefully at the conversion process. For CD Redbook replay (which is PCM) 16/44 24/96 or DXD, the only dac process that convert it "bit perfect" are your "R2R Multibit" dac chips or the new discrete R2R multibit ones, (which don’t come in one box cd players that I’ve seen, only dacs) All other "Delta Sigma" dac chip conversion processes (1bit, single bit, bitstream, ess, wofson, etc etc ) can only give a "facsimile" of PCM it can never be "bit perfect" like R2R, but they do do online streaming sacd, dsd, if your into it. (I’m not, too much compressed re-issues from them) Cheers George |
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Suggest you take a look at the Marantz CD6007. I'm on my second Marantz disc spinner and they are musical drawing you into the music. From your posts, it should mate well with your system.https://www.marantz.com/en-us/product/cd-players/cd6007 |
Also own a Cambridge 851C. Far from harsh but it’s not dead sounding either so if you play very poor recordings, well you get it. I run Synergistic Black fuses (was current at the time) with WyWires power cord. Listened to the CAL’s from the past and the more current Marantz players and they’re very good but I’ll keep the Cambridge. Had a brief home audition with the 840 as a local shop had a used one in so I took it home; still a nice player but not as revealing as the 851C. My 851C sounds much better than my stock Oppo 205 as well. Was using the DAC only in the 851C with a streamer which sounded wonderful but latter went to an RME DAC. If you’re only looking for a CDP/DAC, the 851C is a great player for the money. Very flexible player if you want to also plug a streamer into or go direct to amp. Fuses and power cords will make a nice improvement as well. Also, if you have a balanced preamp or amp (going direct) it does sound best balanced out. Lastly my 851C sits on Daedalus DiD’s isolation feet which improves things even more. It’s a wonderful player if properly set up. |
With a little patience you can pick up an Oppo 105 <$1000, which also plays SACD/DVD-A and even movies. Then, on Ebaye you can buy aftermarket Linear Power Modules from ~ $200 up. One of the companies even provides excellent pictures to walk you through (hey I did it) also get the Furutech IEC with silver jumper to the power supply board and the jumper to bypass the 110/220 switch. Once complete leave the top off. I bought a $4 air con filter to keep junk out hth |
Hi jfant, I never had a CD32. what brand? Hi folks,Thanks for all the suggestions folks. My previous cd player was a cambridge cxc going into an arcam irdac. I still have the irdac as i use it for streaming, however, the cxc (with irdac) made everything sound a little too full and bloomy. Add that to the 308’s fuller sound and f30’s forward mids, and it was a little overkill. Hence, i sold the cxc to get a standalone cdp; as cd is still my reference. In fact, i use streaming to discover new music, then buy the disc! |
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I've owned the Rega Saturn-R for about 4 years and find it to be a fantastic unit. They are $2995 MSRP and you can find good used ones for about half that amount. At the used price, I find it to be a great value, having all around great sound, plus the functionality of DAC inputs for use with a streamer, TV, or whatever other digital sources you may have. |
While I have a Saturn and its just tremendous with (two?) WM8740 chips. It was pretty expensive new. I have no need for multiple formats, USB, digital output etc. These days I’d probably go for something more modest. The Rega Apollo has a (upgraded) Wolfson chip, like the Saturn, and would be perfectly sufficient. A while ago I noticed someone deciding upon a Yamaha CD player. Because they also make musical instruments. I don't endorse that logic. |
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After about a year of research, reviews, talking in-store with folks, Quad Artera Play+ https://www.quad-hifi.co.uk/artera-play-2/ Built like a truck. Unbelievably quiet. Rivals any other source I feed my system. You'll never look back. The only negative is the remote / onscreen is cludgy and will require you stay close to the manual. The good news is, I emailed them with a particular questions and they responded overnight. Impressive. |
@reubent I have the original Saturn. After more than a decade, recently it has started skipping on the first track of a CD. I have read this is nothing serious, just needs perhaps some maintenance on the mechanism. Early models had some soldering issues which were promptly addressed by Rega. If this, nothing that a competent technician can’t easily fix. My amp is a Sansui 555A. Recently totally refurbished according to the Leestereo design specs at audiokarma. Divine. Sonic beauty. I can see some better specs and other things with the newer R model, and that is tremendous. I can’t really comment on the newer models not having heard them. |
@dabel Yes, I wasn’t meaning to comment on Yamaha as such. I use a Yamaha tuner every day, the t-85, made around 1986. Its splendid. Probably needs the lid lifted for a look at the caps etc, and some other stuff that tuners need after all this time - alignment? That’s probably something that can be only be done by a specialist techy. I digress... |
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Hi, I’m also in the market for a CD player, haven’t owned that many of them over the years. Here’s my cd evolution for the most part: AMC CD6 (1 bit player) Proceed PCD2 (shoulda never sold) Audio Alchemy DDS3 Oppo DV 970 (owned the longest) Rotel RCD855 Cambridge Azur 840C Of the last 2, the Rotel was really smooth and enjoyable. I felt the Azur was too clinical sounding in comparison but I was not using it with XLR’s which they recommended. I later came to really enjoy the Azur. The Azur stopped reading discs :( so I just sold it. I loved the fact that I could hook up my Bluesound to it & use the upsampling DAC on the back of it. I’m moving overseas to Israel next week & will be bringing a Linn Majik I (orig shoe box sized) and a Meridian 551 (to match my 504 tuner) with 2 pair of small Brit monitors (ProAc Super Tablettes & Monitor Audio R700 MD). Anyone have any experience with Meridian CD players? I wonder how they stack up? There’s an Israeli retailer close by to where I’ll be living who wants $21-2300 for a Meridian 507, that’s worth like $750 everywhere else in the world. Probably cheaper to buy something in Europe & have it shipped? I also will be looking for a DAC for my Node 2i. A friend of mine really likes this Maverick tube DAC even though it’s only 24/96. I dug the Rotel which was only 16 bits too :) Look forward to hearing your thoughts |
A 2nd hand Meridian G08.2 is a wonderful player. I found mine for approx. €1150 in 2014. Slightly matte (but hifi sounds often too bright compared to the concert), and laid-back => should match your needs.Very good D/A conversion, renders a full-bodied, natural sound. Rips the CD on-the-fly, stores the bits in a ROM, then converts them brilliantly. The only snag: uses a slot-loader. That ugly thing had been introduced by Steve Jobs on the MAC, so all the hifi industry jumped in the bandwagon. The slot produced extremely tiny micro-abrasions on the poly-carbonate layer of my CDs (not "scratches", sthg ways lighter that could be seen only under the light of desk LED lamp, under a particular angle). |