Burmester 218.....


I am glad to see Burmester is being talked about on these forums, they are superb gear in my opinion.

if you haven't had the chance to hear the 218 do yourself a favor and take a listen, I started my Burmester journey with a 956mk2, upgraded to a 911mk3, upgraded to the 216 and have now settled on the 218

going up a level with each amp they all got better, more dynamics, deeper/wider soundstage better control, you name it, drastically better.  the speed and dynamics of the 218 is as good as I have heard in quite some time

just wanted to share some of my journey and joy of owning Burmester, highly recommend.

ckr1969

ckr1969,

and you need to triple up your meds lol and I stop believing in Santa Claus a long time ago, Go away you're starting to bore me.

thecarpathian,

well he keeps sending me messages with stupid comments so I keep answering him lol

@zuesman its my thread/topic, you are the one that should go, we get it, Sim is the best, Burmester is overpriced crap, got it.  reality is I bet you have never heard the Burmester, like I said before, makes zero sense to drag your amp to compare with something you have no desire to own, ive read some of your other post, you are the guy that is telling everyone they are wrong and you are right, how to spend there money to enjoy there system, you can can spend so much less and have superior sound, blah blah, blah

 

reality, Burmester is a superior product over sim, end of story.  does sim make a great product, yes, but is it better than Burmester, NO.  I know, Burmester has around 15 dealers in the USA compared to so many Sim dealers, means nothing other than Burmester is much more exclusive about there dealers and lets face it, there's fewer dealers because of price, supply and demand, alot more demand for lower priced gear since many more can afford it, that's simple economics.  

I hope you have a great holiday cause you seem like a miserable person always trying to prove yourself on this forum under several other names, enjoy your cables, sim and monitor audio, im sure its a nice system for you and your family

enjoy your cables, sim and monitor audio

he has photos of those on this wall, not the hardware, in the basement of his mom's house where he has lived rent-free for the last decade

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ckr1969,

Burmester is not a superior product over Sim end of story you haven't heard the 861 and compared the two so again you're saying stupid things, I have and if you don't want to believe that I have so be it I really don't care, I've heard both so I can make the comment you obviously make stupid comments without comparing the two so again Burmester is not superior to Sim it's just way overpriced and if you're stupid enough to overpay that's your business lol, and their speakers are definitely not better than the monitor audio platinum way over price again though.

@zuesman who did you deal with, love to chat with them and get there view and thoughts on this comparison you did, now of course you know if this really happened you would say the dealer and name of sales person etc, that would really prove your point and make me wrong and I will apologize to you for calling you out, now, of course you know you will never say it cause it never happened, its my job to find out, not really, I could careless, I am overly happy with my system and can say I am finally done after my latest upgrade of a cartridge for my 175TT

you are not a Burmester customer, it will always be overpriced etc cause you simply dont have it and never will, enjoy your sim, the music is really all that matters at the end of day, not getting the last word and trying to push your thoughts and purchases on others like you have in all your other post, my cables are better, monitor audio is this and that, sim is a giant killer, blah blah

this is my last response to you until you name the store and the sales guy, but again, this will never happen and I doubt that any dealer would allow this to happen with a comparison like this, they have everything to lose and nothing to gain, why would anyone let someone compare a $22k amp with a $70k amp, that's 2 different customers,

final closing on this, you re full of crap and a story teller, ill be waiting for that dealers name etc

ckr1969,

well there's only one dealer in Vancouver so it's pretty easy to deduce who I went to are you really that stupid and can't figure it out?

ckr1969,

if I wanted to buy a $50,000 or $70,000 amp that would be no problem I have the money in the bank I'm just not stupid enough to waste that kind of money When a $29,000 amp with newer technology sounds better or maybe if you heard it just as good so why would I spend 50 or 70,000 when I can get the same sound quality with 29,000?

Burmester is not a superior product over Sim end of story you haven't heard the 861 and compared the two so again you're saying stupid things, I have and if you don't want to believe that I have so be it I really don't care, I've heard both so I can make the comment you obviously make stupid comments without comparing the two so again Burmester is not superior to Sim it's just way overpriced and if you're stupid enough to overpay that's your business lol, and their speakers are definitely not better than the monitor audio platinum way over price again though.
 

 Well now that you underlined it I’m convinced!

@zuesman no you can't, but its all good, what salesman did you speak to?

also, you are still full of crap!!!!!!!!

@zuesman well I bit on it, I just called hifi centre in Vancouver, asked if they had a 216 or 218 on display/demo, guess what, they have sold a few but have never displayed them, special order only, fairytale over, you are an f'n liar.

an before you call BS on me, anyone can call them, they answered on 2nd ring and our convo lasted about 45 seconds, oh, im sure you dealt with the "other" Burmester dealer that's not listed on the Burmester site but has there products, get a life, now im officially done, I would be surprised if you even have a sim 861 and monitor audio speakers

grislybutter,

I'm not doing any advertising for Sim so I can say anything I like.

ckr1969,

also the other store that has Burmester is liquid sound try calling them as well

ckr1969,

just so I can shut your mouth if you want give me your email address and I'll send you a picture of my system and I'll even name it for you right now, SIM audio p8 preamp, SIM audio 861 amplifier, esoteric P10 transport, Wyred4sound 10th anniversary DAC, monarchy audio upsampler, monitor audio platinum 200 ll and the internal wiring will be upgraded to OCC single crystal which is the best wire for audio on the market, far superior to anything OFC you probably don't even know that lol, and all the wiring is neotech Sahara rectangular OCC copper and the power cords are all The Grand rectangular OCC copper. and if you'd like you can go see a picture of it on Thomas and Friends systems of the world part 2 and it's the second system that he reviewed on that video, but that picture still has my w8 because I still hadn't upgraded to the 861

ckr1969,

I made a mistake on the website It's Thomas and stereo systems of the world part 2 and it's the second system in on the video

There is some serious mental illness with @urbie / @havocman / @zuesman. Understand that this is NOT your thread. The OP and others have asked you to stop, and still you continue. The only thing you are proving is that you are a nut job and are in need of help.

I’m pretty sure it’s not on Thomas and Friends.  Glad for you that you have the bestest rig.

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I'm not doing any advertising for Sim so I can say anything I like.

What I am saying is that what you are doing is bad for them

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@zuesman https://postimg.cc/jD3w9W0S

https://postimg.cc/GHGC8txS

 

here ya go, sorry for poor pic

all burmester reference

077 pre

175 table with air tight opus 1 cart

111 streamer

218 (2nd one being installed later this week)

948 conditioner

esprit eureka and Gaia xlr/speaker and power

master artist signature rack

master artist signature towers

gik and vicoustics thru out

aww @zuesman  why did you delete the post with you asking me to post my system so we could repair, again you are so full of crap, go away now plz

He sure has a lot of expensive gear for a former cable guy.

Who knew they made so much...🤔

ckr1969,

never heard of those speakers must be one of those niche market speaker manufacturers.

ckr1969,

and if you really want to improve the sound of your system check out the Townshend podiums they go underneath the speakers and they stop the vibration from going from the speakers into the floor and back into your speakers and into your other equipment they isolate down to three Hertz the improvement is so great It's as if you upgraded your electronics it'll take your system to a whole new level and you won't even have to spend another $50,000 on another amp this improvement will be far better and they definitely don't cost as much as an amplifier but the improvement will be better than adding another amplifier.

thecarpathian,

that's what happens when you're in a good union, I was making $25 an hour back in 2000, and my last year before retirement I was making $35 an hour in 2021.

ckr1969,

and you definitely could make improvements by upgrading your cables I looked at the company and all they're using is copper but unfortunately it's not the best copper, The best copper for audio is OCC single crystal which is been proven now for over 50 years to be far superior to OFC which is what the company that you're using uses that's the cheapest wire out there and you're paying through the nose for cheap wire I can't believe when I saw the prices how big of a rip off this company is for using such cheap wire I think you should do your research a little bit better and you'll find out that OCC single crystal silver and copper is far Superior than what you're using now.

@zuesman  I really appreciate the advice, here some for you, you may want to spread your speakers a littler further apart, they will image better, I would also look at replacing your esoteric, excellent brand but aurender/dcs/new esoteric will kick its ass, you may also look at replacing the sim amp/pre with boulder, angostino, ch, solution, gryphon, etc much better amps/pre, you should really do your research before giving others advice, just a thoughtsmiley

ckr1969, did you see the picture of my room I can't spread them out any further unfortunately because the minimum that monitor audio suggests the speakers to be from the sidewall is 3 ft I've already got them a foot and a half away from the sidewall if I push them out farther I'll lose my outside imaging.

ckr1969,

actually I don't think the new esoteric will kick this transports ass in fact this transport may be better than what they're making now when they made this transport they were so far ahead of everybody it wasn't even funny The internal wiring is all OCC single crystal wire which shocked me when I saw the specs I don't know if the new stuff is using OCC single crystal wire internally and the VRDS transport hasn't changed that much since this one It's still the best transport in the world nothing better out there.

ckr1969,

Boulder Griffon CH precision and solution do not make better preamps than this one and the 850P sorry obviously you've never heard the p8 or the 850p It's just as good as any of those in fact the 850p is now $40,000 US.

Zeusman’s system is pretty midfi. He has no business, pedigree, or understanding to be disrupting a thread about true hifi stuff like Burmester. 

thecarpathian,

that's what happens when you're in a good union, I was making $25 an hour back in 2000, and my last year before retirement I was making $35 an hour in 2021.

Ah, I see.  That explains it.  The most you can afford is the Sims gear.  Hey, you gotta make do and do the best you can with the financial means that are available to you, such as they are.

I make more than that and still can't afford it. I guess that's what happens when you have a mortgage, kids, medical insurance, household expenses, etc. instead of living in your mom and dad's basement.

This thread has turned into a pi$$ing contest. Who can write their name in the snow in 6 different languages without using your hands! 

@ckr1969 Thanks for sharing. I’m sure if I had Burmeister gear, I would be proud of it too. Hate that your thread got shat upon so. Enjoy the music. 

plaw,

Then obviously you haven't heard any sim audio because Simaudio left Classe in the dust after Dave Reich left their product is not ever been as good ever since and SIM audio just laughs at Classe now, they're not even in the same league anymore.

I had a delicious slice of pizza for lunch.

"then you obviously never had any Simaudio pizza, and it only costs 20 grand. The pizza you had absolutely sucks. All pizzas suck that's not Simaudio, and you would know if if you weren't so clueless. Simaudio pizza is in a class alone, really, so bored that it now has a cocaine addition (You never had any cocaine with pizza you are so stupid)."