Being buried alive is way up high on my list of ways that I do not want to die. And just reading the word "crawlspace" makes me of John Gacy.
Have you watched The Vanishing? The original Dutch version
Sorry for the off topic everyone 🙂
A not sarcastic question for the power conditioner/upgraded power cord folks
And I realize that there are those that don’t believe in either
Assuming you use a power conditioner and after market power cords, do you feel that the power cord from the power conditioner to the wall might be a limiting or even a negating factor to the performance of the after market power cords that run from the power conditioner to the gear?
The reason I ask is that I was about to embark upon some more experimentation with different power cords and where I plugged them into when I discovered that the aftermarket cords I had purchased before and some recent arrivals are actually a meter shorter than the ones that came with the gear. This doesn’t matter for the amp due to its location, but when I did my last power cord upgrade I ran my CDP and pre into a conditioner so the length for those didn’t matter either, but as I was doing the musical chairs with power cords thing today, I also was intending to run the CDP and pre straight into the wall on separate dedicated circuits, but I found out that I am a tad short on those two.
Which doesn’t preclude me from moving my dedicated circuit outlets up a couple of feet, and I suppose I probably will, but I was curious as to the opinions about the limitations of a power conditioners power cord.
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No problems on the off topic, @devinplombier ; anyway I had to google to make sure I was thinking about the same movie, and the one I saw had Kiefer and Jeff Bridges (and since I wasn't as tuned to actors and actresses back then as I am now, I just realized Sandra Bullock, who I usually enjoy a lot). So I am thinking that this is not the original Dutch version. Anyway, I think I've only watched that movie once, but I do remember that it bothered me ('bothered me' is the best I can do at the moment) considering the notion of someone being put in a box and buried alive. Man, that would be terrible. I can only imagine the insanity that would precede death by hypoxia. But I do not like to imagine it. I typed that it was way up high on my list of ways I don't want to die, but thinking about it, it may be at the very top of that list. I've seen a couple or so movies since that involve someone being buried alive in a box, and it never fails to get to me. I almost cannot watch it. |
. . . since we are already off topic, I'll go on to say that whenever I work underneath one of my vehicles (which I do frequently) I do a real THOROUGH job of supporting it. Going out that way is also high up on my list of ways not to, although I would prefer it to being buried alive in a box. Thinking of working for an extended period of time in 18" of crawlspace made me think of that. The crawlspace, however, would trigger my claustrophobia while being underneath a vehicle doesn't. |
. . . staying off topic, @devinplombier , this all made me think of another movie I saw a while back ago, and I had to do a google because I forgot the name of it, but it was The Last Descent. Anyway, it was apparently based on factual events that occurred in 2009 in a cave in Utah when two brothers were out spelunking together and one of them decided to go down a tunnel that led just about straight down (as in inverted) where he got stuck and (after doing another google) spent 27 hours before expiring. And as I remember from the movie, he was so stuck that they never did recover his body as the risk of collapse of the cave would have been too great. I remember watching that and being overcome by my own claustrophobia. |
@immatthewj sorry, I do understand that you already have multiple dedicated AC lines in place. What I should have said is that it sounds like you have decided to configure those to use in place of your glorified power strip. My main general point was that there are much more glorified power strips available now, and much more glorified cables available to connect them to the wall, and that those cables can make a very big difference. My snarky comment about 12 AWG vs 10 AWG AC supply wire is based on personal experience. YMMV. Running separate lines as you have should reduce any issues. And yes, running 10 gauge wire through ceilings and walls is more difficult than 12 gauge. |
@knownothing , thanks for clarifying. And I didn't take anything negative from the 12/10 river of denial comment. And now that I see what you are getting at, yes, what I think I am going achieve first is running my gear straight to the wall with nothing in between. And sorry if I may have came off as sounding terse about it. And whether or not I will swap out those runs of 12-2 that I put in for 10 is up in the air. |
Re: the post by Chuck and also attributed to The Absolute Sound. I might have a suggestion for those folks in the position of building a new home: When I renovated my home and upsized 49.9% (a limit to avoid immediate reassessment) we changed our service entrance drop and the old 4/0 Aluminum SE cable was surplused. I ran that from the new primary panel to a subpanel just below my new living room and as long as we lived there we never got the slightest dip when the whole-house AC or anything else kicked in - including anything from some extended low end synth to the Also Sprach Zarathustra intro. I had a separate 20A circuit fed to behind each equipment rack from that subpanel in the basement area below so all runs were less than 15 feet. The only other runs off that panel were to my electronics workshop in the room below, and I could only be in one or the other so it never interfered. As noted in the really long post, the two key issues are 1: to have the stiffest possible power source (large gauge wire) as close to the load as you can with the best possible connections and 2: have some sort of RFI/EMI suppression as close to the load as possible as well. Even ferrites on every cord at the point it plugs into the load will help a bit, although circuitry in the power conditioner appropriate to the specific load type is valuable as well. I would quote brands, etc. but that construction and circuitry was back in the mid 90's and is not pertinent in todays market. As always, be sure to take time to listen and enjoy the music! |
Power cords can make a difference as long as your ears can hear a qualitative difference. Most high end audio cable come in different lengths to customize the fit to each individual system, cable management may be a better term. Trial and error, listen, purchase and return till your level of satisfaction. Good luck. Frank
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I was thinking about all my thoughts and feelings I still wanted to write about regarding the tariffs and my love for trump in that thread yesterday, Would it be ok to continue that here @immatthewj ? Just kidding! This time SERIOUSLY KIDDING. , Sorry |
@grislybutter never thought you were a troll but you just proved me wrong |
@audphile1 if it walks like a duck..... |
Ha ha! Well, @grislybutter , I guess do what you gotta do. |
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@chrisoshea , how helpful that was. You may have some reading comprehension challenges. And where did you learn to end a sentence with an improperly spaced three dot ellipsis? |
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my eyesight is getting pretty bad, but for this sentence:
I can only count three no matter how close I get my face to my screen. Meaning that the period at the end of the sentence (the second sentence which also utilized an ellipsis) was omitted. Which doesn’t matter to me, but considering that it was a critique of my ability to communicate, I just thought that I would bring it to the attention of " @chrisoshea ." The same "chrisoshea" who I am now pretty sure is someone else’s sock puppet. Regardless of any of that: my system is down for maintenance. I am going to run my 2 m power cords directly into the wall from the gear.
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@audphile1 , at the risk of being trolled by the Shea "brothers" (Chriso and Tim), I'll give you a quick update of sorts. The maintenance I was going to do never got past the staging process. In other words I had everything unplugged and moved out of the way and had my drywall tools and etc on site and ready to go, but I just couldn't get myself to start the project. I do plan on moving those outlets, but for the time being I set everything back up with the "glorified strip" and I have been listening for maybe a week. I have not A/Bed those new cords (yet) but I must say I am liking the way everything sounds right now. And I was not feeling that positive about it when I shut it down for the maintenance that did not happen. With that typed, I am not saying for positive that it was the new cords I put into my system. I am a moody person and the ears are connected to the mind and the mind (at least my mind) is a complicated entity and it does funny things to me. Not funny as in ha ha, but funny as in I don't understand it. @mclinnguy , yes, you were/are right, and I took your advice. |
