Millercarbon, have you noticed that those who can't win an argument on the merits of a position resort to ad hominem?
Why the truth is not in them ??
I wonder how many people have been told something by a buyer, that was no where near the truth....I hate to think how many times I have been told that I will send a Pay-Pal tomorrow, or I'll send you a check tonight....and never do anything of the kind.....I've been waiting for two weeks for a check from a guy in Michigan , I have sold a item 13 times on another web-site based on what a person has told me and never received the first penny..........Does anyone tell the truth anymore ?? I have one web-site that I do business on that has a 98% negative truth rate.....Isn't that a poor way to deal with people ?? What are your experience ??
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Shilling for Tekton ?? I have to wonder what that's all about, I don't shill for anybody......And I guess if my parents were rich and I could spend some time in college I might know more about sociology and since I was born in Washington, D.C. I should know more about politics than most, but I didn't learn much, so it has been me and working class people in my education of people.......A little money may have made the difference, but I didn't have any and nobody to give me any..........So I'm not sure your kind of wisdom is what I need.........And maybe this isn't about me anyway....... |
I sell MAHL tweeters that I manufacture on EBay and then Klipsch speakers, primarily the pro side of things that I have rebuilt and refurbished on Craigslist. I have had hardly any trouble with the Klipsch owners/buyers and these two venues. I have more trouble with post office or FEDEX damage than customers. I have no idea what it would be like to sell somewhere like Audiogon but with as many crazy things as are sold here I would expect crazy buyers and trouble over time too. Fraud happens on Craigslist but is easy to spot and you just don't open the door to trouble you will do fine. |
mijostyn, The Tekton idea of using multiple tweeters to cover the entire midrange (and up) seems great in theory because of the reduced mass for the equivalent surface area of a conventional midrange unit. Are they a box that sounds like an electrostatic, without the drawbacks? Apparently they’re not unique. A company in Germany (Concrete Audio acc to 6moons) has a model with 41 tweeters. Intriguingly, the original patent is held by the Fraunhofer Institute. So what’s going on here? What’s the drawback? What’s the truth? Why is it so difficult to establish? Is it simply a human construct relative to the time and location of its conception? Should we ask Bill Clinton? I’m also hoping that Mahgister doesn’t chip in to point out that we’re all nothing more than a collection of disparate atoms held vicariously in a magnetic space field. It might be true, but I can’t see how it helps. https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/tekton2/ |
If you read my post you will know that i am more a poet than a scientist, even if i had read more science books than some... I NEVER post words implying some reductionist attitude, like you suggest i has did or will do... Then dont attack me by false affirmation about me.... By the way anything i say about audio is always the results of my homemade low cost many experiments... And finally man is not: "only a collection of dispate atoms at all vicariously held in a nagnetic space field"....Bad science is not for me sorry.... Man is an eternal soul in a sea of happiness, but he forget it easily especially when he hurt himself with his bowl of soup... I dont want to be your bowl of soup... My best to you... :) |
@mahgister, 'Man is an eternal soul in a sea of happiness, but he forget it easily especially when he hurt himself with his bowl of soup... I dont want to be your bowl of soup...' Most of us are in someone's else's bowl of soup. At least some of the time. It still doesn't get us any nearer to understanding this nebulous notion of truth and ethics. Maybe the best we can do is to recall that old adage, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". It could even work, it might just, but we'd all have to follow it, not just some of us. |
mahgister, it helps to keep in mind a lot of the criticism is coming from people with a tenuous connection with reality. Like my post, there's zero personal attacks in it yet two guys make stuff up about it, attack me personally, and one even ignores actual ad hominems directed at me and accuses me of being the one resorting to ad hominems. Unreal. If that's how ill-equipped they are to understand clear concise prose imagine how they must struggle with your ideas. Poetry is beautiful because of the complex of inexpressible feelings and ideas it digs up. But to get complex and hard to express ideas it helps to be capable of having ideas and thinking about things. This rules them out, and so of course they get frustrated. Most of what we're doing is frankly beyond them. Might be literally truly beyond them, as in no matter what they never will get it. Or might be beyond them merely by virtue of being too physically or mentally lazy to get up off the comfortable couch and try. Either way they're not getting it. So don't let them get to you. To do what we do takes imagination, creativity, intelligence, and perseverance. It takes initiative. Qualities they lack. You are Michael Jordan, effortlessly performing layups. Don't be surprised or get upset when they start talking trash. Talk is all they have. Let em have their fun. We have our music. But who knows, trashing others may be the one thing that gives their lives meaning. |
Most people would probably agree with The Ten Commandments for guiding principles. Those are pretty fundamental but a very good foundation to adhere by. Hence, their longevity. If you can’t, at least to some practical degree, things usually head south. After that, things get even tougher. To summarize: The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)1“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.2“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.3“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.4“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.5“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.6“You shall not murder.7“You shall not commit adultery.8“You shall not steal.9“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.10“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” P.S.: coveting your neighbor’s hifi is right out!!! |
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".Very well said.... That dont contradict any of my past posts here then i concur.... By the way these words are for me the objective foundational experience of moral imagination , and moral imagination is the only faculty or organ needed by humanity to go trough next millenium.... The moral imagination part is past the " i dont cheat you because i dont want to be cheat by you " to the " How can i love you more and in a better way? " The future is less determined by technology than by moral imagination... I read a novel of S-F 45 years ago and in it the writer was describing many advanced civilizations, all more advanced and powerful than the others, except the last and the more advanced, no visible technology, and pure moral imagination.... Olaf Stapledon "Last men and first men " |
mahgister, it helps to keep in mind a lot of the criticism is coming from people with a tenuous connection with reality... two guys make stuff up about it, attack me personally, and one even ignores actual ad hominems directed at me and accuses me of being the one resorting to ad hominems. Unreal..... Someone better be careful about that "false witness" thing. That’s a lot of trash talking! Whatever happened to taking the high road? |
millercarbon i consider all people here, particularly those partaking others opinions friends, i must confess that i like to argue, but i try the best i can no to be too sarcastic, too personal, or not so friendly... I confess also being more sensible than some, and a bit too much reactive or impetuous... :) «Life is short, hate is long but not longer, joy is eternal....» -Groucho Marx |
mapman, ’Whatever happened to taking the high road?’ Whilst the ancient Greeks were taking the high road, the Romans took the short cuts - and we know what happened. Still, it’s not entirely clear just who the eventual long term winners were. Audiophiles I’m guessing, are likely to be more Greek than Roman. |
P.S.: coveting your neighbor’s hifi is right out!!!Even in my heavenly state actual audio room system, i covet some other system.... i am a sinner, a fool, and a..... I am without words..... Even if my system is perfect for me now, after these 2 years experiments, i dream about the Berning zotl amplifier of my neighbour... I think this hobby is sometimes frustrating even for those who are happy....They are not enough happy... I remember the first bottle of wine i drink, i tought i will be happier with a second one.... :) :) |
Trust is definitely the glue that holds our society and economy together. In my experience, fortunately most of the people I interact with are "trustworthy", not all, but most seem to be. With regard for buying and selling on this site, whenever someone reaches out to me about purchasing an item I have for sale, I will only deal with them if they make an offer thru the site, not with the email exchange, that way if they jerk me around, I can report them to Audiogon. I had a guy go back and forth with me on the purchase of an SACD player, we came to terms on the price and when he arrived at my door he said on the drive he decided to offer me $600 less than we agreed to. To bad he wasted his time on that 90 minute drive to and 90 minute drive from my house. I don't deal with people like that. |
I live in UK one thing we do have (I so feel) is a fairer Criminal justice system in the courts in comparison with the Criminal justice system in USA. I remember an article written before the OJ Simpson trial which looked at the status of lawyers involved on the Prosecution side and the status of lawyers involved in the Defence team of OJ Simpson and concluded that because OJ Simpson has the more experienced and better lawyers, he will probably be acquitted. In UK we also have good and better lawyers, but we do not have situations where a case is decided on the capability of lawyers; it would make a mockery of the justice system, cases are decided on the cases itself, the evidence given and so forth... |
In the UK, as in Canada, horrific murderers are given ridiculously short sentences...even for multiple murders. That is why compared many other countries we have a higher incarceration rate. We punish criminals and keep them in jail longer. We don't execute too many, but we do keep them in jail longer for serious offenses. |
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mahgister, You read Maps of Meaning?? Respect!A great book, not for the general public, more a course in psychology with his own perspective... Very good.... In a nutshell, society comes from the necessity to survive in cooperation, all religions and societies are founded on a division of the world, the known versus the unknown, and the way the borders complex workings plays in the dynamic between these 2 poles ; the order and the virtual chaos on the verge to enter..... |
I watched his whole series on the Bible stories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w together with hours and hours of his classroom lectures, debates, and interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54 and read his 12 Rules for Life https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/0345816021 and read a few excerpts from Maps of Meaning, but have not felt quite up to tackling that one. Yet. |
His Bible series contains much of his intuition and observations.... But i dont have listened it very much 3 episodes only.... I suggest you to listen to his series about his book.... the series of videos has the same title: maps of meanings.... I love the guy, he is sensible and the prey of no ideologue....He is also a real concrete clinician and that shows in his thinking.... My best to you with your new speakers.... |
Back to tangible world. My experience with mail has been great. Five days door-to-door from deep in the Europe to slightly less deep in the U.S.A. (regular mail, not FedEx, UPS, etc.). Two to three days from anywhere in the U.S.A. to U.S.A. Some things arrived sooner than expected. Maybe I have just been lucky over the past couple of months. |
More uplifting.... :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2XUrySbdUE&t=442s And trust me Peterson is very uplifting.... Try his bible series.... My best to you and stay safe.... |
This artist can be uplifting.... Or not.... But for me it is..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkbUYUuHUHA |
Ok i will let it like that.... This pianist from Iceland is my last uplifting discovery good night.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mymWYonUUs&list=RD6mymWYonUUs&start_radio=1&t=8 |
mahgister, I forgot to mention that Ervin Nyiregyházi CD you led me to was a good choice. Playing is superb, sound quality better than expected although probably not to some picky audiophile’s standard. It may be as good as we can get from him. It also arrived within a few days from England to U.S.A. Speaking of being picky, I am slightly dismayed that photographs on the CD cover are NOT from the performance that is on the CD. https://sonettoclassics.com/Official_Store.html#%21/Nyiregyh%C3%A1zi-Live-Vol-1-Century-Club-of-California-2CD/p/142377576/category=0 |
I sold to commercial accounts for over 30 years and can't deal with consumers. Whenever I sell something, I let a dealer handle it. If I've traded it in, he can either give me trade credit or take it on consignment. I even had a guy sell something because I didn't want to deal with registering as a seller. Just by chance a dealer emailed me about an item I gave him on consignment saying he took it down from Audiogon because "a guy made an offer on the amp - we'll see if he comes through". He sells all the time on Audiogon and other sites, so you can see what it's like out there from his comment. It's worth paying him a commission to deal with the BS, shipping, payment processing, etc. |
I also had a dealer sell something for me who "forgot" he sold it and didn't send me a check. I found out by accident when I stopped by his store when I was in the neighborhood. When he couldn't find it, he checked his receipts and said someone sold it and he didn't know. Then he tried to charge me 50% commission (I had agreed to 40% originally which I thought was high). He gave me a check (didn't have $180 in cash). Needless to say I deposited the check on the way home. Luckily it didn't bounce. I agree with Miller Carbon on trust. It's hard to find, and I highly value it when someone just does what they say they will do. |
Thoughts on commerce in the "Age of Mendacity": SELLERS: 1) When you advertize "price firm" you must MEAN IT! Then buyers can evaluate your add and move on. 2) Otherwise, always build-in enough headroom to discount, ship, etc. 3) ALWAYS over-pack your shipments of electronics. 4) For Pete’s sake, if your stuff hasn’t sold in 60 days don’t you think a price adjustment is needed? Get aggressive! Get that money in your bank account where you can use it. 5) Remember, no buyer wants a bad review. Use it if you need it. BUYERS: 1) Try to use Paypal for extra security. The fee is worth it. 2) YOU are responsible for researching price, specs, reviews, etc. 3) Think! Some day you’re going to have to turn around and become a seller--be honest! 4) Remember, no seller wants a bad review. Use it if you need it. Just a note: Research "late stage capitalism" and realize that it was a PREDICTION by Marx that closely resembles what’s going on now. Doesn’t make me or anyone else a commie, pinko, or even a socialist. Some people try to think before their knee jerks. |
denverfred Thanks for the post.... Very sound advices, and very wise philosophical remarks indeed...But before Marx, Goethe himself predict it on another basis for his analysis, in the Faust second part... 2 geniuses sometimes count for more... And Goethe is in no way a Marxist i am sure, a canadian of German origin perhaps? My deepest regards... |