Just my opinion , but I don't think it all sounds the same. What I consider to be traditional Jazz sounds nothing like what I consider to be modern Jazz. Neither sound like fusion. Your definition of modern, traditional, or fusion will probably influence your opinion.
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You just defined so called experimental Jazz, which to me is really awful. It is like a bunch of people jamming, but not jamming the same song. More classical Jazz, Blues-Jazz, smooth-Jazz, etc. is nothing like this. This is Jazz you may like : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiyNy5irPYY |
@snackeyp, I'm not sure what you're listening to. Listen to the following small sample. Piano, Theloneus Monk vs Oscar Peterson. Guitar, Wes Montgomery vs Jim Hall. Trumpet, Clfford Brown vs Chet Baker. Alto saxophone, Paul Desmond vs Charlie Parker. If you're unable t distinguish differences between these iconic jazz musicians playing the same instrument then something's wrong. Charles |
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Yeah, I know. I was mocking my coworker who always says that jazz all sounds the same. I should have explained that but I wasn't very much awake yet when I had that thought. I told him he should try listening to the Grateful Dead (who I love BTW). A lot of people say that all Dead music sounds the same. |
@snackeyp What you are hearing is related to musical training. Classically trained musicians know where the right notes are and get them on the first try, while Jazz musicians go by trial and error. Jazz bass or guitar player "walks" all over the fretboard until he finds the right note. That makes all Jazz sound very alike, no matter who plays. |
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Squeaky squeak squeak, honk honk honk, ratta tap tap, bing bang bong, tinkle tinkle, rumble bum bum. I know you say you love it, and you are probably being a bit facetious, but for the uninitiated, it should be pointed out, that there are vast differences in many varieties of jazz. None of the following subgenres of jazz sound anything like each other: Post-bop (Coltrane, Miles, Freddie, Evans, McCoy, etc) Fusion (Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Allan Holdsworth, Alex Machacek, etc) Chamber jazz (Oregon, Terje Rypdal, Jarrett, Eberhard Weber, Jan Garbarek, etc) Avant-garde (Cecil Taylor, Anthony Braxton, Ayler, Art Ensemble of Chicago, etc) Jazz-metal (Panzerballett, Counter-World Experience, Spaced Out, etc) M-Base (Steve Coleman, Andrew Milne, Greg Osby, Cassandra Wilson, etc) Just to mention a few... |
@superblackbirddave1, Your wife is not alone with those sentiments. Jazz and classical music will never be mainstream for the general population and I accept that. Pop,Rock, Hip hop,Rap is what millions gravitate toward and where mega amount of money is generated. I actually feel lucky/fortunate to be one of the "relative minority" of people who simply love and deeply appreciate the outstanding music that the jazz genre offers. Given its small niche in the music universe it’s amazing the vast amount of recordings (And quality) available. Charles |
+1 @charlesdad i was so fortunate that in college my first roommate was a burgeoning jazz saxophonist there on scholarship... over the course of the schoolyear taught me how to listen to and appreciate jazz... started with chuck mangione, herbie mann, earl klugh, jazz crusaders in the fall, and by springtime, i had learned to ’get’ bird, coltrane, monk, mingus, roland kirk et al talk about life changing... have been in love with the artistry, energy, creativity of jazz ever since - the gift that never stops giving 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 |
@jjss49, the gift that never stops giving 🙏🙏🙏🙏 So on the mark. Thanks for sharing your experience, lucky you to have such a roommate. A very good friend of mine is a drummer and his brother is a pianist. Both are accomplished jazz musicians on our local scene. It was incredibly helpful in my development when I'd listen to them practice and attend their weekend shows. Talk about training one's ear with all of that frequent up close exposure to live instruments. Charles |
I agree, Jazz is really growing on me. It's perfect as background music because it's rarely annoying and I'm finding more and more that I like. I'm very "young" in Jazz so I don't know all the great go-to's but for now I'm liking the normals I guess: Bob James, Dave Grusin, and a few others I can't pronounce. |
There are many branches and styles within jazz. It is beautiful, often soulfull music. Many of the greatest popular artists are influenced by jazz - Steely Dan, Joni Mitchell, Anita Baker, just to name a few. It is a wonderful original art form from America, that now has broad followings around the world. |