What drugs do you use to enhance your listening experience?
In this post let's consider alcohol, nicotine, and coffee drugs, as they are, along with the usual suspects that can get you arrested in most US states and beheaded in Saudi Arabia. I live in Victoria, Canada, which has more marijuana shops than Starbucks, and we have tons of Starbucks. In 10 minutes, I can walk from my house to four dispensaries, which will sell to anyone over 18. OK, enough bragging, For me, a puff, and just one puff (I don't like getting stoned) can be the best tweak ever. A glass of wine is also a fine
compliment. Too much alcohol will increase my enjoyment (because I'm drunk) but put Phil Spector in the room (wall of sound and loss of the stuff I value in my system, such as clarity).
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Agreed chrisr "Love is the drug" and releasing oxytocin is the key. Tim Lawrence, the author of books including “Love Saves the Day: A History of American Dance Music Culture, 1970-1979,” explained: “The D.J. didn’t mix or perform tricks on the equalizer. The D.J. divested themselves of their ego, stopped trying to interfere with the music, and they just chose really good tunes.” |
"....shooting a gun or petting the cat ...." Go with the latter. Either of those doesn't draw unnecessary attention to the following listening session. Both could be done during, but there's gonna be a break in there at some point for the one...;) The former lends itself to metal music played loud because one's ears could still be ringing. But that tends to overly excite the gendarmes who tend to show up after gunfire. Some overstimulation for some social groups isn't a good thing....they want to compete with bull horns, sirens, all that police stuff... A real buzz kill....*smirk* |
Amazingly these are all legal! My preferences, not necessarily in this order: Dopamine, Serotonin, Endorphins and especially Oxytocin. And we all have them handy. A quick search on how to naturally release these chemicals from their constraints may improve not only what is between your ears, yet your whole body and your listening session. Never would have thought that shooting a gun or petting the cat (both varieties) before listening to the rig could heighten my listening experience. Enjoy! |
BTW, going back somewhat towards the original topic... http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-wall-of-sound A little CA history story for y'all. For your consideration...;) |
(Laughing) Well, it's 'ancient history' for him. I suspect that vinyl and records might be mysterious in their appeal to some, but he's your grandson and he's aware of your 'predilection'....so an old version of emotive annotation might seem....quaint and backwards. Well, I'm assuming such...but emojis? I suspect he's better versed in those....again, assuming, given his age group and the popularity of cells within it, and texting/messaging/all that. Why *G* when a symbol is less keystrokes, if keystroked at all? (I'm not a 'swiper' on my phone's keypad...spouse is good at it, me naah...) I'm a handkerchief user. My spouse thinks that's dated and quaint as well. Should I stop? It wouldn't be pretty if I did. Relating that (obliquely,perhaps) to not using any 'emotive comment' on a (well, my) posts leaves one with guessing if I'm serious or pulling your leg (another ancient activity), which happened earlier in this forum. Should I stop? I'd rather not.... I'm happy to expound if asked and clarify anything I've said or intimated in my somewhat off-centered ramblings. I'm here to perhaps learn something, read opinions, tap into 'what's hot/what's not', and have some fun in the process. I have my preferences like anyone else here...my opinions are subject to the same up/down vote as well. Getting into lengthy discussions over such isn't my style...brevity isn't either, obviously from the above.... ;) But you're more than welcome. *S* |
*Laugh* timrhu, old 'webchat' nomenclature. *Grin*, *LaughOutLoud*, *InMyHumbleOpinion*, and other contractions. It's gotten out of hand with the text-ers 'IMHO', what with emojis and all that graphical stuff. If you're not a teenager, who can decipher that? It's rapidly becoming a modern version of pictographic languages like Chinese or Japanese.... I just use it so you've got some sense of how I'm feeling about what I'm typing at y'all. Esp. in this forum, and esp. regarding the subject under discussion, which is real 'left field' for a 'serious audio crowd'. I mean, Really. "How f*ck'd up do you get when listening?" Before, during, after? Considering the current state of Reality, I've been considering Constantly, Dawn to Lights Out. A major case of becoming allergic to civilization, I suspect....;) Wonder if it's catchy? |
tosta, well, sure. Anything inhaled (other than 'normal air', and it's well-documented as to what it consists of these daze) in major concentrations is bound to have Something Negative traipsing along with it. Vaping is certainly 'cleaner', digestion perhaps. But as you've noted, where there's a way...there'll be means towards the desired effect. ;)*G* oregon...damn....real 'killer pot'. You ought to let the Pentagon know about that source. The enlistment rate would clear the streets. Talk about motivation for the troops. On the other hand, that might a bit of a nightmare. Too much motivation could be a 'bad thing'. *shiver* That's why I do my part of being a good citizen and keep it out of the hands of those who would abuse it or can't handle it. 'Public Service', right, Judge? *G* (Hey, might fly...) |
asvjerry, there's a lot of unfavorable possibilities besides lung cancer. Read all about it: https://www.thoracic.org/patients/patient-resources/resources/marijuana.pdf Of course there's vaporizers and there's ingestion by way of prepared food, so...where there's a weed there's a way, I suppose. |
You buy a turntable, and the next thing you know, you are shooting junk. :) hah hah :^) it can be a slippery and dangerous slope with vinyl. What, with the horizontal record and the vertical cantilever. Especially on a well endowed expensive cartridge. (shudders) Hurts just thinking about it ....should have bought the Decca. |
So, hi-fi is a sort of gateway drug. You buy a turntable, and the next thing you know, you are shooting junk. :) I dunno. I've been sober for going on 30 years, but back in the day, everybody got stoned to listen to music. Whatever floats your boat. (But, don't drink, drive or operate farm machinery while under the influence). |
golfer boy What a cool city to live in. Have visited several times. Just love it. Red wine is my thing now. Doctors order you know. I have a little shop in Bellingham WA so if you are ever in Vancouver and have time to visit let me know. Or take the ferry to Seattle and drive up through B'ham. Enough dispensaries in this town to get Vancouver Island stoned for at least a month. Coffee too and every week is beer week here. Good beer. Bring you clubs. |
Tostados, 'bout a decade ago I read a report in the Houston Chronicle, buried in the back of section A, regarding the results of a study on regular pot smokers. Seems they had a lower incidence of lung cancer. Now, since it was a university doing that study, one could claim a bias buried in there ('damn kidz'). *G* Shared that news with my 'source' at the time, and he wasn't surprised at all.... "You know how you cough with that first hit? All the junk you bark up?" Yeah... "Well...it's probably not all from weed, don'tcha think?" Now, wouldn't that be nifty. Another selling point....*LOL* IMHO, anything and everything seems to have a hidden cost, some not so hidden. Something that makes your head happy is likely rotting your butt in some obscure fashion. So, pick your poison or not, enjoy the toys in the mindset of your preference. That's the point, I thought...;) Soar with the angels now, since the devil will get his due eventually anyway. Play on... ion, |
The biggest financial and time expense for this audio hobby is the dedicated music room. One of lifes pleasures is to indulge occasionally in your favorite drink (for me), whatever for you, and know, you will not get thrown out of the joint, at the end of the night. In fact you can also sleep in your room if you want to. My recommendation is try not to make this habit forming..... OP said. Too much alcohol will increase my enjoyment (because I’m drunk) This is also when the digital only guys start saying their bits and bytes sound better than analog....... :^) |
First things first: I am oldskool and beer/Stoli/cigar is my poison. My take here is: what do u listen to when "relaxing" vs your usual self? Right now, going thru six-pack of Hofbrau "diluted" with Stoli I am totally immersed in Enigma, Bee Gees and Yello!! Tomorrow, for a hangover, it will be LP of Shamal by Gong followed by my usuals of Klaus Schulze, Richter, Brahms under Bohm, ECM albums... |
Hi, my name is Tostados and I'm a recovering audioholic... Wolf, I have a hard time believing that I'm the only person who felt that daily smoking was bad for my lungs. After a really bad bout of bronchitis I tried to go back to regular use and it was a mistake. I'm glad I got out when I did and I'll be surprised if, when data is available, we don't find that a lot of people are wrecking their lungs with pot. The new vaporizers should help a lot in that regard. Time will tell. |
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...and I thank you for accepting my apology. *S* "The closet door banged open, shrieking, and all sorts of Things landslid into the space..." My, look at all these skeletons. And all the abstainers look on in horror. *G* "Jez, Why?" Because it's there? Some of us are perhaps doing a public service, keeping these things out of the hands of those who abuse them. (Please Note: That was a joke. My rationale perhaps, but I digress..) Listening to music is a pretty safe thing to do. How is up to the listener, and it's all subjective IMHO of any listening state chosen. We do, and will do, what we like. As long as nothing becomes mandatory. And one remains relatively civil and civilized about it. 125 db at the end of a dirt road, cool. Next door, 3am, NO. Deal? *L* No deal; I retaliate with waveform inversion and nobody hears nothing until thermal overload and someone's windows turn to sand.... Hmm....I oughta try that...;) |
I agree with raymonda that music itself is a drug. You may try to make your best to see and feel that (without using any drag). When I listen to music at night in my living room, I usually take some glasses of tee (green or sometimes black) that makes me more relaxed. And when I switch on my studio system in the mornings I do yoga asanas and try to connect the music I hear with what I feel while doing the postures. So try to make your best to substitute drags with something else (having a similar outcome), in particular, with music. |
I crave endorphins. It starts - the feeling in my body - about 10 minutes into my morning run. I run for 40 mins and the feeling lasts for about 10-15 minutes after. Of course none of this happens without taking a drug in the morning before the run - Black Coffee. A big mug. And it’s all downhill after that.......until...... Later in the day ......good vibe music also creates the endorphins effect with me. I do however find I need to have some kind of fluid at hand when I listen to music next to my right hand. Maybe the heat from the Class A amp is dehydrating me.. Canada Dry Club Soda mixed with OJ - 50 - 50. Needs to be really cold when served. On the rocks optional. |
Here is the logic behind the false assumption that pot is a gateway drug: Potatoes make you rob banks. How do we know? By asking bank robbers if the ate potatoes before they robbed banks. Both potatoes and pot are plentiful; ERGO!, their use in our society does not predict a causal relationship. Remember kiddies. When you roll a joint, make certain you smoke it from the correct end, or you will think your directional wires are backwards. |
I remember watching Led Zepplin outdoors at the Oakland Collisium while on LSD. They were in the middle of their set, playing" No Quarter " and the haze had burned off and the sun was shining . That was one of my " MORE HEIGHTENED " Listening experiences . I did everything except heroein . But I quit drugs in '89 and stopped drinking in '97. So now I'm 59 and have a long history based on going back over all the music ( if they are still alive ) and being able to rellisten to all the recordings with a clear mind . At home my focus is on music through a very detailed low power tube system . It's at its best in the middle of the night . So looking back , the stimulants , hallucinogens and Marijuana enhanced the live experience . But at home it's been better for me with a clear head . Even back then I preferred watching the African Cichlids in my 200 gallon tank over getting stoned to relax . So I think for me it was the effort into my stereo and listening room that mattered the most . So now when I want to " GET A BUZZ " , I tube roll or go to small venue live shows . So I used to be a Stoner , BUT I WAS AND STILL AM AN AUDIOPHILE . Happy Listening , Mike. |