Ron and his whole family have been battling Covid for a month. This is a update he posted on YouTube. Good to hear things are improving and wishing him and family the best.
Watch "Where have I been? Covid-19" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Dl7xO3zMbDo
Freedom of Information Act requests are rarely speedy, but when a group of scientists asked the federal government to share the data it relied upon in licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, the response went beyond typical bureaucratic foot-dragging.
As in 55 years beyond.
That’s how long the Food & Drug Administration in court papers this week proposes it should be given to review and release the trove of vaccine-related documents responsive to the request. If a federal judge in Texas agrees, plaintiffs Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency can expect to see the full record in 2076.
Well, this has certainly been an interesting thread....sort of. I haven’t read through each page but comments seem typical of the topic. Since we are all sharing our thoughts here are mine. I have (luckily) avoided covid...so far. I have done this by being vigilant about wearig a mask and avoiding crowded places (like the scientists said). I have actually switched from being an ardent supporter of going to the office to embracing working from home. I didn’t think I would like it but to my surprise I have found that I love it!
For those who don’t want to get the vaccine, think about this (the operative word being "think"). Is the source of information you are using better than the scientists who developed the vaccine? I find it funny that some will shun the vaccine (which is FDA approved) for horse dewormer that is not FDA approved (for covid). Consider that polio has been juuuuust about completely eliminated from the planet due to vacciations. My mother-in-law took her last steps at 11 years old. She has spent the remainder of her life in a wheel chair. Oh, and scientists developed that vaccine as well. Here’s what gets me. 750,000 people have died from covid in the U.S. and we have people fighting against getting the vaccine. 3000 people died as a result of the 9/11 attack and we engaged in two wars and changed our laws to allow the Government to spy on us, which we learned from Edward Snowden. Hmm, I just don’t get that. I work with a guy who is 29 years old, works out every day, and is very healthy. He almost died from covid! Everyone in our office thought we were going to lose him. He was unvacciated of course.
For those who shun the vaccine; I would like to attend an audio show because I have never been. Based on what I have read here I probably won’t anytime soon because those of you who remain unvaccinated create too high a risk level for me. Despite all of this typing I suppose I won’t have changed anyone’s mind so this is potentially a fools errand. I implore you though. Do the right thing and get vaccinated. Just do it and help make us all healthier. Oh and my power cord is better than your power cord 😆
My wife and I (both Pfizer vaxxed) just developed covid. I was eligible for the infusion therapy and it was well worth it. We basically had minor flu symptons. My brother, who is Mederna vaxxed and a Booster Shot just got Covid as well. Same, minor flu symptoms.
I believe the Vaxxes plyed a big role in keeping the symptoms minor. Before Covid, I would have continued, with the minor symptoms I had, to work except for the one day I had a fever.
The only thing about the infusion therapy is I cannot take the Booster for 90 days.
'Most vaccinated' place on earth cancels Christmas
More than 118% of Gibraltar’s population are fully vaccinated against Covid-19, with this figure stretching beyond 100% due to doses given to Spaniards who cross the border to work or visit the territory every day. Masks are still required in shops and on public transport.
The initial vaccine campaign on the British outpost came to a conclusion in early spring 2021, with a large proportion of the population fully inoculated against Covid-19. It became one of the first places in Europe to reduce restrictions following a winter of lockdowns, in what was dubbed ‘Operation Freedom’.
Gibraltar is currently doling out booster doses to the over-40s, healthcare workers, and other “vulnerable groups,” and administering vaccines to children aged between five and 12.
Similarly well-vaccinated countries have also reported surges in Covid-19 infections recently. In Singapore, where 94% of the eligible population have been inoculated, cases and deaths soared to record highs at the end of October, and have since subsided slightly. In Ireland, where around 92% of the adult population is fully vaccinated, cases of Covid-19 and deaths from the virus have roughly doubled since August.
Thanks for pointing that out @coachpoconnor. I was going to do the same. Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you won’t get covid, it just drastically reduces the symptoms. That’s why I am still being cautious. Here is a comment about Gibraltar from Newsweek...
"The Government said in a statement on Friday: "Given the exponential rise in the number of cases, the Government for example intends to cancel a number of its own functions including official Christmas parties, official receptions and similar gatherings.
"The public, at this stage, are ultimately called upon to exercise their own judgement in this respect bearing in mind the current advice given.
"It will also become necessary at this point to make sure that the use of official premises is carefully scrutinised and where necessary events are postponed to a later date."
LOL. The RT Masthead "All the news that's fit to fabricate."
RT has been described as a major propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy.[2] Academics, fact-checkers, and news reporters (including some current and former RT reporters) have identified RT as a purveyor of disinformation.
@yuviarora: Singapore has been a model from the beginning with their approch to dealing with pandemic fall out, something we were not blessed with here in the America’s. Their surge seems to be blamed on vaccine efiicacy in the population.
Protein breakthough research on a cellular level is coming but will it be to late to stop more lethal variations that may occur?
We, industrial nations, have nickled and dimed ourselves into this postion by not shuting down earlier to stop the spread. If China would have been more forthcoming from the very start possibly this could of been treated in the same manner as a recent Ebola outbreak was handled in Africa. By shutting down with contract tracing combined with a new vaccine therapy they did not let Ebola get a grip on their population or allow it to be spread.
When the coronavirus first emerged last year, health officials feared the pandemic would sweep across Africa, killing millions. Although it’s still unclear what COVID-19’s ultimate toll will be, that catastrophic scenario has yet to materialize in Zimbabwe or much of the continent.
Scientists emphasize that obtaining accurate COVID-19 data, particularly in African countries with patchy surveillance, is extremely difficult, and warn that declining coronavirus trends could easily be reversed.
But there is something "mysterious" going on in Africa that is puzzling scientists, said Wafaa El-Sadr, chair of global health at Columbia University. "Africa doesn’t have the vaccines and the resources to fight COVID-19 that they have in Europe and the U.S., but somehow they seem to be doing better," she said.
Fewer than 6% of people in Africa are vaccinated. For months, the WHO has described Africa as "one of the least affected regions in the world" in its weekly pandemic reports.
Did the rise of infection among those in Singapore come from those who had the Sinovac shot and not the Pfizer and Moderna? Would be nice to know if you're taking data that's not separating the two out. The Chinese developed Sinovac shot is not anywhere near as efficacious as the Pfizer or Moderna.
As for Gibraltar, take a look at the WHO site and tell me what you see.
Plaintiffs' lawyers argue that their request should be top priority, and that the FDA should release all the material no later than March 3, 2022.
“This 108-day period is the same amount of time it took the FDA to review the responsive documents for the far more intricate task of licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine,” wrote Aaron Siri of Siri & Glimstad in New York and John Howie of Howie Law in Dallas in court papers.
“The entire purpose of the FOIA is to assure government transparency,” they continued. “It is difficult to imagine a greater need for transparency than immediate disclosure of the documents relied upon by the FDA to license a product that is now being mandated to over 100 million Americans under penalty of losing their careers, their income, their military service status, and far worse.”
I am very dumbfounded that someone say RT is propaganda...
For sure it is propaganda and more than that, it is easy to spot the bias...it is not hidden, it is a general orientation around the interest of Russia for suree...It is in PLAIN SIGHT and almost openly admitted... We will tell all thing but with our perspective included also... This is the BIAS...very visible...
But i am dumdfounded by something way more disturbing than this EVIDENCE..
All known US media in TV, those i know the best, are not biased not at all.. This is way worse than bias like RT which is bias..
US TV DONT GIVE ANY NEWS FROM THE WORLD save in exceptional inevitable case, simple...
The rest of the world dont exist then, simple, no need to present a fact with a bias, there is nothing about ANY EXTERNAL DEMOCRATIC DEBATES about the world crisis in US TV save internal news...With only 2 visible biases : republican Or democrat...
It is a tragedy, it is the only reason why i dont laugh my butt through my mouth ...
Then after having no news of the world external situation, american citizens are supposed to think and vote?
The system was 2 box, one named democrat, the other box republican that SEEMED separated but where working a bit together but not very much so ( guess why ? who said we must divide to conquer and stay in power ?) , but with Trump the 2 boxes were definitively separated officially...The US was always broken for decades now before him but Trump made it clear for all to see... The only point where Trump was right is that he is an outsider...For sure a false billionaire looking for attention and money...
With the pandemy crisis the SAME PEOPLE always behind these 2 boxes pushes the button "mass vaccinations"... After the WORST managing crisis of a pandemy in known history...Even a children reading few minutes about the way we must treat disease and healthy people would have understood that, after some time thinking about history...But the censorship is so heavy not only on TV but on social media that i am dumbfounded yes that ignorant s call RT biased... for sure RT is biased but at least they spoke EACH day about all world events without end with debates.... They are bias but how do we may call US TV ? You catch like me thetragi- comic of the situation?
To be biased someone MUST have an event to comment about with the idea to show his bias ....If there is no event there is no visible bias to show... Simple... american TV may mimic "objectivity" because she present NO EVENT at all, then american TV has no bias to show for sure...
There is world wide protest against all the corrupted and sleepwalking governments of the world so called democracies for months and months and against the health politic inherited from Fauci and Gates or WHO, all measures taken for corporations only, no health sane science and guess what : you see nothing of that on US TV...
Some here dont even see the censorship nor through it...
They say RT is bias... This the extent of their lucidity...
I am without words...
I will not go and spoke about corporations vaccinations contracts... Any mafia is a more human organization than these corporations.. If you think i exagerete you are beyond help... You need a nanny....
«Why dont we see you anymore in TV Groucho ? Because i am Russian »-Groucho Marx 🤓
Trust issues deepen as yet another FDA commissioner joins the pharmaceutical industry
Pharma-giant Pfizer announced on June 28 that the former US Food and Drug Administration commissioner Scott Gottlieb would be joining its board of directors. The move fell in line with a troubling pattern: After their tenure at the FDA, commissioners tend to go on to advise private companies in the pharmaceutical industry.
In fact, 9 out of the last 10 FDA commissioners—representing nearly four decades of agency leadership—have gone on to work for pharmaceutical companies. The lone exception, David Kessler, joined the ranks in academia before eventually settling in his current position as chair of the board of directors at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a non-profit nutritional science advocacy group.
On its own, Gottlieb’s move from FDA commissioner to Pfizer board member isn’t necessarily a problem for the FDA. There’s nothing illegal about the move, Kessler told Quartz in an interview.
However, when it happens again and again—as it has for the past 38 years—it raises the specter of conflict of interest. The perception of a so-called “revolving door”—a chummy agreement between big drug companies and the regulators who approve their products for sale—undermines trust in the FDA.
“[The American people]believe that the FDA is making their decisions in their interest and no one else’s,” Kessler told Quartz.
In addition to the issues arising from the agency’s pharmaceutical ties, Kessler said he also worries about the FDA’s politicization, which could be viewed as a threat to its ability to base decisions on independent, scientific analysis.
Teo...is it your assertion that a company engaged in pharmaceuticals should only appoint plumbers or audio cable manufacturers to their board? We wouldnt want anyone on a corporate board to have any knowledge of the industry would we? That would be the equivalent of putting someone who has filed bankruptcy multiple times in charge of your financial future...oh wait...
In all seriousness, let’s define a word or seek it’s known definition.
When governments, in an electoral system that involves the given country’s public... when said governments & private monies or corporations collude with one another, either openly or in secret, against the will of the people... when they do this for one another’s benefit, against or contrary to the benefit of the public...this scenario has a name.
Facsism.
When they do the same... but don’t use the little bits of colored and numbered paper (’money’) and associated ledgers, they call it: communism.
On China’s ’board of directors’ (the NPC), there is apparently now over 100 billionaires.
It’s become so bad that one can’t tell the difference anymore...
I tend to think that it can all be loosely labelled/collated under the term 'organized crime'.
As soon as I saw the phrase plaintiff's lawyers, that said all I needed to hear. Ambulance chasers trying to make a buck off of this. Nothing new. Just stir up the pot and cloud the publics mind (as if it isn't already cloudy enough) so as to poison any jury pool.
As for any notion of vaccine induced nerve damage, haven't you paid any attention to what the physicians already posted here? (not to mention the 2 videos I posted) It's your immune system over reacting. The vaccine is incapable of doing that. The same amount of people are experiencing the same symptoms from the Shingrex vaccine for Shingles. A very low amount. It happens with every vaccine out there.
Everyone's system reacts differently and the benefits outweigh the risks. There are now lots of people saying their loved ones have suffered from the vaccine when they haven't, trying to scare people out of taking it. Annecdotal evidence is not to taken seriously.
Teo...is it your assertion that a company engaged in pharmaceuticals should only appoint plumbers or audio cable manufacturers to their board? We wouldnt want anyone on a corporate board to have any knowledge of the industry would we? That would be the equivalent of putting someone who has filed bankruptcy multiple times in charge of your financial future...oh wait...
I’d ask you to not put words in my mouth and then come off as sneery and dismissive based on your projected self assessment of me.
That’s a tactic to use emotions to help a point be dismissed by the self and any others who might be looking in..
It’s disingenuous and I’m calling you out on it. I don’t have a solution but neither do you.
It could be fair to say..the current scenario can be seen as an an abject failure - when it comes to the ideals of democracy and rule of law as a constitutional pairing.
There are hundreds, literal hundreds of far more damning points and reports from accredited and reliable news sources that can be brought to bear on the discussion.
This probably would not do much good, as this is entrenched warfare (these sorts of threads.)
So I’ll step away from this thread, not in some holier than thou kind of mindset, but knowing it was probably not wise to get involved in the first place.
The desire to get involved (probably for some of us), is tied to knowing that we are coming to a point, in this world.. where there is precious little space or room (if any) left for the wise and thinking to step away from the given ugly fracas of ’psychopathology as rulership’ being the norm in most countries of this world.
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As to your point of what to do, well... other countries have strong laws against the scenario of norm for the the CDC, FDA, FTC, etc....where the public servants cannot be party to involvement in for-profit corporations, either before or after their tenure at the given government office.
These governments do this, order to deal with the issue of collusion and crime being a problem in such scenarios where there are no controls or limits of such, on the given government department heads.
Yet they get things done just fine.
In most cases, with less actual recorded RICO-ish problems, by a notable amount. Usually with more untainted benefit to the public.
We are supposed to be all grown adults and some here defend the relation DOOR OPEN between corporations and Health institutiion ...
They probably will defend the fact that these institutions supposed to be defender of the public health sell also vaccines LIKE the drugs corporations..
Fauci own personally many financial interests in the health politic which he is supposed to direct without interest conflicts...
These are proven facts a children can verify...Even google could not erase all information ...Only displace it....It is called an algorythm...It is better than erasing facts sometimes because it is more efficient toward the same goal....
Teo you are wiser than me...
I must quit also...
But i learned yesterday some news so frigthening that i am in fear for the first time really ...It is the worst possible news about this vaxx, i hope the Nobel prize scientist is wrong or nut, like said some "enlightened" mind to me here yesterday....
I must wait to verify what has been said and it will takes weeks..
But the news come from a Nobel prize in medecine who was right all along with his affirmations about the pandemy then ...He is not known in american TV for sure...
No US media will ever report it at all...This is absolutely certain...
RT will report it in weeks to come with his bias for sure... We will see...
It is better for me to pray for all than speak here...
my best to all....
The world change so deeply now at a speed which is near light speed...When the children of your children will ask you what have you seen Daddy? You will be in the obligation to say the truth: i was sleeping...
"It's your immune system overreacting". Does that also explain blood clots? Heart enlargements? Actually I believe immune systems are becomming compromised.
As soon as I saw the phrase plaintiff's lawyers, that said all I needed to hear. Ambulance chasers trying to make a buck off of this. Nothing new.
Make a buck off this? Why don't you think for one moment who has actually made hundreds of billions from this. And, speaking of the FOIA request, do you think the FDA spent 55 years reviewing the documents from the pharmaceutical companies before approving the vaccines? Obviously not, so it's hogwash that they take that position now.
Khughes those who will most likely die on Covid are those who does not wear mask vaccinated or vaccinated,Its the load of virus that kills ,I totally disagree with you.Reading your post, are wrong and misleading , I have no fear, but Iam careful.Go to daystar/covid.com truth science is there.
Yale Professor Dr. Harvey Risch and the University of California’s Dr. Aaron Kheriaty and Dr. Peter McCullough filed a Freedom of Information Act request asking the FDA for the data in August, and their group, the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency, filed a lawsuit requesting the data in September.
FDA assures us they did a robust analysis of the Pfizer vaccine data in only 108 days to expedite EAU but needs 55 years to redact the same documents before we the people can see them.
The people suing are anything but ambulance chasers.
And the fact that people here are not troubled by this abhorrent lack of transparency for a vaccination that has ZERO LIABILITY is extremely troubling to me.
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS–CoV–2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID–19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS–CoV–2 infection and directly influences the clinical outcomes of patients. Clinical studies have indicated that patients with severe COVID–19 exhibit delayed and weak adaptive immune responses; however, the mechanism by which SARS–CoV–2 impedes adaptive immunity remains unclear. Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.
Science is biaaaatch.
So, your cut 'n paste agrees with what the 2 doctors have already posted here and with the 2 videos that I posted. What's your point? It doesn't back up any of your previous postings. It doesn't say the vaccine does this but that Covid does. The very last sentence sets up the role that a vaccine has in how it has to deal with the spike protein.
@nonoiseMRNA vaccines produce trillions of spike proteins in your body. Spike proteins are deadly.....that is what all the doctors looking at the side effects of the vaccine have been screaming from the top of their lungs for the last year.
These spike proteins are entering the bloody stream and getting thorugh the blood brain barrier, causing inflamation in every organ.
Myocarditis and Pericarditis are caused by these spikes.
A previously symptomless 86-year-old man received the first dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. He died 4 weeks later from acute renal and respiratory failure. Although he did not present with any COVID-19-specific symptoms, he tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 before he died. Spike protein (S1) antigen-binding showed significant levels for immunoglobulin (Ig) G, while nucleocapsid IgG/IgM was not elicited. Acute bronchopneumonia and tubular failure were assigned as the cause of death at autopsy; however, we did not observe any characteristic morphological features of COVID-19. Postmortem molecular mapping by real-time polymerase chain reaction revealed relevant SARS-CoV-2 cycle threshold values in all organs examined (oropharynx, olfactory mucosa, trachea, lungs, heart, kidney and cerebrum) except for the liver and olfactory bulb. These results might suggest that the first vaccination induces immunogenicity but not sterile immunity.
This is old news..... and has been confirmed since then.
The spike proteins that MRNA vaccine produces in your body are supposed to give you the immunity to covid, but now have been found to enter the blood stream, past the site of injection.
The damage done by covid, is done by the spike... and the vaccine is making trillions of them inside your very own body.
This is the stuff people are having side effects from, and the side effects look very much like the effects of covid, because they are the very same thing.
You do you, if you still want to go get your boosters, go right ahead.....but if you think you can mandate this crap onto other people, we are going to have a very big problem on our hands.
"I begged my mother to not take the jabb, she didn’t listen....
She just got diagnosed with vaccine induced Nerve Damage, constant piercing ringing in her right ear, accomanied by crippling migranes."
It's best to let everyone make their own decision. You gave her the evidence, it's all you could do.
My mother has had both jabs and has since been complaining of tiredness and pain in her hands. My dad is a fair bit older (almost 90) and has refused the jabs.
I know several people who have experienced great discomfort after the second jab. Even worse, after the booster. I hope they are going to be ok.
2 of the people I knew personally unexpectedly died after receiving the second jab.
I can't prove their deaths were linked but they were both physically active beforehand.
No one I know personally has died from Covid, despite a dozen or so being ill (bad flu) and I hope it stays that way.
"The spike proteins that MRNA vaccine produces in your body are supposed to give you the immunity to covid, but now have been found to enter the blood stream, past the site of injection."
This is a huge concern. These vaccines are experimental and unlike any previous vaccines. If it's proven that the spike proteins are preventing DNA repair...well, you don't need me to spell it out.
Some vaccinated are showing sickness already, who knows what is to come? With what I have been reading for some time, more and more Doctors and Health Care workers etc, are warning DO NOT VACCINATE!! Ofcourse research both sides as the DR who is the PAID Authority is still pushing them! 🤔
If it wasn't so sad, it'd be fascinating to witness first hand, madness. You'd have to go all the way back to the early '30s to see it manifest in the German people and many centuries before that when witch hunters would go from city to city in Europe killing every female they encountered in the villages and towns they went to.
And, here it is again, unfolding before our very eyes in our politics and as a result, in our approach to medicine, science, math and the ability to reason it out. Despite our paying lip service to ethics, morality and the constructs that should guide us, outright lying and deception hold a higher reward than telling and accepting the truth. Like I said, both sad and fascinating to watch.
Haven't read this whole thread but I recently came across NRD's video about his family having COVID.
I'm very sorry he and his family have suffered. It seems just terrible.
All the red flags are there for inferring he and his family chose not to get vaccinated, from the severity of their symptoms, to the reticance to mention vaccines, to the "respect my choice" kind of talk and the reference to his "church community."
So on one hand it's awful to hear of that whole family suffering and I'm glad they are on the other side of it. Yet it's frusterating to see yet another instance of a level of suffering that could have (likely) been avoided.
And of course this subject flushes out the misinformed in every forum....
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