The medical experts with lots of education, training and experience in their specialty are the ones you should get your advice from,
I agree
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ISOCHRONISM AND ROADWHORERECORDS SHOULD BE shunned and banned for posting PATENTLY FALSE disinformation/misinformation.
I am infectious diesase physician, clinical researcher in COVID-19 and have 25 years experience in practice of infectious disease. If your lack of insight and agrogant stubborn foolishness did not impact the health of nornal citizens of this failing republic, I would be happy that you are not vaccinated. Good riddence. Cheers, good listening and stay safe to the normal audiophiles.
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Smallpox vaccine triggered similar responses in the past... "In 1902, following a smallpox outbreak, the board of health of the city of Cambridge, Massachusetts, mandated all city residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. City resident Henning Jacobson refused vaccination on the grounds that the law violated his right to care for his own body how he knew best. In turn, the city filed criminal charges against him. After losing his court battle locally, Jacobson appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. In 1905 the Court found in the state’s favor, ruling that the state could enact compulsory laws to protect the public in the event of a communicable disease. This was the first U.S. Supreme Court case concerning the power of states in public health law." History of Vaccines For those wishing to condemn the source... this information is available from multiple historical sources. Vaccines have improved the lives of the whole of society....Smallpox, Polio, etc..You would think we as a society would becoming smarter. I too wish Ron a speedy recovery |
Wow. Your 3rd post here and you are already calling for censorshi and banning people for their ideas. This is typical of the left who cannot EVER WIN the argument based on their ideas, so they HAVE to shut down anyone who disagrees. Kinda like this whole Scamdemic. Anyone who disagrees must be silenced. That includes Dr Robert Malone who Invented the mRNA vaccine. He is not onboard with this vaccine and suspects it of enhancing the virus rather than stopping it.
BTW have any of you leftists ever read a history book? I aalways wondered how so many citizens of 1930's & 40's Germany could allow 6 million people slaughtered right under their noses. The last few years have answered that question. |
YOU confirm your lack of humanity, reasoning capacity and foolishness by using that one word "left." this is not a polical issue, its a health issue.
true I have read many posts but not being an expert I never made any comments as I am out of my league with audiophiles. You are out of your league with health science. sure, you and other arrogant stubborn paranoids know better than all the medical and public health scientists and have critically analyzed the the thousands of studies. I won't reply as you are not worth the bytes and energy. hope your life is short. |
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IOW you have no argument that will hold up other than you are offended. Thats what I said earlier. You have NO argument worthhearing so you must try to silence other views. Then if that doesn’t work you try to criticize their character. Yer on track just like I knew you would be. Here’s the inventor of the mRNA vaccine.
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It would be easier to just go back thru the years using the search engine here and see what the same idiots said when Covid first hit and you’ll see that their arguments were the same and just as inspid. You’ll also see how they constantly move the goalposts, cherry pick their data, mistate facts and timelines, and use any tactic they can to convince themselves they’re right. It’s cognitive dissonance on full display. The more they’re wrong, the angrier they get and the more they retreat into their tailor made dystopian hellscape. Here we have an actual infectious desease expert offering advice and some yahoo calls him a leftist. That’s all the you need to know about what you’re dealing with. How can they be so anti-science, anti-math and anti-logic and still claim to be into audio, which requires those belief systems? In the old days, we’d call them insane, or at least, incredibly neurotic. All the best, Nonoise |
Here in Canada, health professionals have recognized that Vaccines are helpful but not perfect. So we still wear masks in public places and we require to be vaxxed to go to restaurants, sporting events, concerts, etc. I think we have less distrust of our government and health officials up here. This would probably not fly in the USA where so many people feel these measures would be an assault on their personal freedoms. However, here's how it plays out. I read many posts from people who have had friends and relatives that got Covid, with some even dying. I personally know of no one who has even been hospitalized, let alone die, from Covid and I have a pretty large circle of peeps. Our daily Covid case counts are 1/4 of that those in the USA on a per capita basis. We must be doing something right. Covid is real, if you choose not to get vaxxed, and I support personal choice, then do or don't do whatever and live with the consequences of your choices. Stay safe people. The stats don't lie.
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Well, folks, first off NO vaccine has ever, or will ever be 100% effective. If you expect that, you are profoundly ignorant of how vaccines work. Vaccines rely ENTIRELY on the natural immune system of the patient. Guess what, people respond differently. It's nature, not a CIA conspiracy, or alien lizard people engaging in a covert Earth takeover attempt. If you don't understand genetics, or protein coding and manufacture at the cellular level then you have no idea how the mRNA vaccines work, so how 'bout learning some biology before propagating nonsense? Now, yeah Christmas is coming and I'm looking for a recommendation for a decent CD player to replace/augment my long in the tooth Sony XA20-ES. Tried the Marantz CD-6007 but it didn't beat my Sony. Not looking to spend the farm for my old ears, but the Sony won't last forever. |
Nonoise.... I think the answer to your.... "How can they be so anti-science, anti-math and anti-logic and still claim to...." Is the overuse of ’The Noble Lie’ ... e.g. Don’t buy up masks...they don’t help and you are denying health care professionals protection... Get vaccinated and you’ll not need to wear a mask... Later only to say...yeah, we misled you (or were just talking out of our @##*$$). ..but it was for YOUR OWN GOOD and you really should trust us moving forward...we will use science from now on...pinky swear! I don’t identify left or right...but the left leaning are most often the purveyors of the Noble Lie...as they think they are smarter than everyone else. P.S. I am vaccinated... though I feel like a sucker for not waiting for the $100 incentive.😉
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Moderator? There are many forums on this subject - I know I'm not forced to look at it but it has no business here and it challenges your credibility. No one cares but I'm about to stop visiting this site. On a high note I posted some comments here a couple weeks ago and received nothing but respectful and useful comments - I was waiting for snark and it never happened - lol |
Excellent post. Too many contradictions and outright lies Whatever happened to "My body, my choice? Why are the doctors & scientists who speak against the vaccine silenced, including the inventor of mRNA? Why is the vaccine mandated or lose your job? Why do you still need a mask IF the vaccine works? Why is ivermectin, hydrochloroguine et al not allowed to be used despite its efficacy rate? Why is the vaccine mandated even on those who have had Covid and have better immunity than the vaccine gives? These are just a few questions I have.
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Quote from Adams...Surgeon General: "Last year Tony Fauci and I famously, prematurely, & wrongly advised against masks," "I felt it was the best call at the time, but now regret it." Keep saying this did not happen...or they are just right wing distortions...this only leads to more mistrust. Continuing to bleat "ALTERNATIVE FACTS" doesn’t change that. P.S. I don’t like people injecting non audio comments into threads...but this is a COVID thread which the moderator has, so far, decided to keep. I can only suffer so much arrogance and BS until I speak up.
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Umm...no. Think for a minute. The ability to post images, GIFs, and videos hasn’t been available here until the recent update. I’ve been a fan of GIFs since, forever. Like a pen or paintbrush, the animated cell is mightier than the sword and worth a thousand words. All the best, Nonoise
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@ roadwhorerecordsWell, we have an estimated 5 million dead presently with the virus surging in Canada, the US, western Europe, Russia, eastern Europe, etc, with the potential for new more transmissable and virulent variants that could bring the numbers much higher yet. This thing is anything but contained. Be careful when you consider eschewing the jab, it could come back to bite not just you but eveyone you come in contact with including your immediate family. A news item on CBC the other day identified a 40 year old physician who was quite well known and apparently quite popular in his community and by appearance at least, quite healthy. He had decided against vaccination for himself and he recently contracted the virus, was hospitalized, put into an induced coma, intubated and died. |
No, a word well chosen or a concept could be mightier than a sword or an image in a mature discussion perhaps not in a schoolyard for sure... Sorry... A emoticon or an image is just something to underline a point in a discussion at best... Save if we mix hypnosis,mantra repetition, surprize gesture, destabilization of an interlocutor etc with the like of a gesture instead of an intellectual move... Perhaps they are children moves, but not Socrates moves for sure...Strawman argument must not exist and had no real power save for a few seconds in sound discussion.... Emoticon and images must be used sparsely for HUMOR only ... My humble opinion... Images used like a point in a discussion hide the essence which is in the brain or the heart not in the gut feeling reaction pushing toward a selected image for answering a point argument.... I prefer drawings and schemas....Cartoon images repeated especially, save very good one, are annoying... Sorry to speak my mind but....i dont want to swim with a bunch of children throwing cartoons instead of brainwork...
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Artemis_5 ... thanks. I think the answer to most of your questions... Is CONTROL. They love the control. I suspect many of them behind our noveau fascism were noseplug kids who felt slighted and powerless when they were young.
This type of person is wired differently.... they think they are smarter than the rest of us...remain blindly committed to good intentions in spite of overwhelming outcomes to the contrary...they love the idea of people but can’t seem to get along too well with real ones...and most damaging in my opinion, their end ALWAYS justifies their means.
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+1 nonoise and others. Opinions, sure, pick one. Facts, however, are stubborn things which don't change just because you refuse to accept them. Refusal, as COVID has been proving for nearly two years, can be fatal. Many people are willing to die, have died, are dying, for their counterfactual beliefs. Docs and nurses all have stories of people diagnosed with terminal COVID whose last words were "it can't be COVID, COVID is a hoax." So I guess their dying is ok, seeing that they have nobody but themselves to blame. |
Massive vaccination mandates are pure political hubris delirium... They have nothing nothing to do with the epidemiology complex rules control steps in the past with a coronavirus which mutate swiftly ... This virus is NOT a flu but act like one...We must act like with a flu: using PROVEN easy cheap drugs for most whom are healthy or young, not putting the safe drugs out of reach for all and for the FREE doctor who want to use them, and we must act with a vaccination of all health compromised people older one only in priority...Isolating those with symptoms NOT the complete population is sane method in the past... And we must use mask in close long encounter or in heavy populated places... Is it not simple? Forced mandates are not medecine....At all....Mandates to vaccinates children, or woman with baby in their womb with a mRNa vaccine is insane....
Reason and fear are not friends... i am flabbergasted by the level of delirium in medecine fields where money interest is all over the place... A doctor is NOT a scientist AT ALL , even if scientifically educated for sure, it is a FREE educated man who pledge to God to help you, BEFORE any money profit for his institution or even against all profit imposed measures by anyone... Medecine is an ART not a science. those who say the opposite are not free man but robot serving a master which is not our health at all but CONTROL...In medecine art, human interaction and TRUST between doctor and patient are half of the treatment and not always the less potent one but the MOST socially important one for sure... Why do you think the medecine community in RICH countries is polarized world wide in half? One half against a mass vaccination the other half promoting it... Think about what is the greatest change in medecine for the last 50 years : the growing power of pharmaceutical industries to put all doctors in their schakles... |
Is it me or did you just pull back the curtain and reveal yourself to be nothing more than a troll? That's a load off my mind. 👍
There's a lot of projection in that statement. All the best, Nonoise |
I'm also in public health, currently working on three Covid fatalities. All unvaccinated, all middle aged, all healthy. One gal went straight from headache to the morgue in eight days. A new time record as far as my Covid fatalities (in total). Tony Fauci was an unknown career public health official who has dedicated his entire LIFE and CAREER to helping others stay healthy. Until of course he dared to point out trump's ignorance (a shot of Lysol, anyone!?!?!?). It's truly laughable watching the haters pile on based on a SINGLE "noble lie". Many of these people whistle straight past trump's BIG LIES (the Covid ones - plural): "it's just the flu", "it'll magically go away", "everyone will get it", "children can't get it", "natural herd immunity is the way to go!", etc. Not only do they whistle past all of THAT, but they continue ignoring (or outright denying) it while demonizing the career experts. They hang their entire "FIRE FAUCI!" case on an instance where he tried to do right (compared to their cult leader, who continued exposing others to his Covid, putting their very lives at risk). Fauci explained himself - the other side just came up with more spoon-fed, Rusian/Chinese Covid misinformation. Take my healthcare cues from some bowtie-wearing trustfund punk who rails against vaccine mandates but doesn't have the courage of his convictions to reveal his own vaccination status? Why? Because of the money? And the perverse pleasure he obviously gets in thoroughly insulting the intelligence of his mind-numb robots on a nightly basis? Hey! I'm just asking the question! LMFAO By all means..............live "free" (and/or die). As far as masks not being effective at helping spread infections? I'm sure the millions of surgeons across the world who have been masked up in their operating theaters for that last 150 years will find that proposition highly amusing. I was recently deposed by a party who was on the wrong side of this argument. Hapless attorney-man was almost giddy when he presented me with some Indian study that allegedly showed the ineffectiveness of masks on viruses. He quickly zipped down to page 18 of the scientific paper to start pointing out fabric pore size, virus size, etc. Imagine his dismay when I directed him back up to the first sentence of the "Background" on page one that I quickly caught when he put the document up on the screen. The sentence that read "Masks are an effective component at helping reduce the spread of infectious diseases." The look on his face when I read that simple statement was absolutely..................priceless. LOL |
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One example how i may adress some point in your politically motivated content posting: Do you know what Kary Mullis, nobel prize winner who invent the PCR technology think of Fauci? Fauci is after Bill Gates the most powerful man in health with a multi billions dollars budget who control all research and publications on the states and even in the world for the sake of corporations... Your post prove that you dont have a clue about Fauci...Mullis think he is TOTALLY incompetent... Ask the nobel winner Montagnier what he think about Fauci? He will say the same than Mullis... There exist even books about Fauci debacle in AIDS and in this crisis....But is 2 Nobel winners opinion about someone they perfectly know not a BIG RED LIGHT SIGNAL? Do you think that 2 nobel prize winners so different in characters are deluded about a man they PERFECTLY know contrary to you?
Study and quit politics ....It is my advice to you.... You post is only insecure political ranting ...Nothing to do with medecine even if you are a doctor... |
There we go...as predicted, someone finally trotted out the label of "anti-Vaxxers " to sledgehammer their grade school ideology. Until people start realizing that there are many many "pro-vaxxers" (for lack of a better schoolyard term) that have issues with the handling and politicization of this virus there can be no useful discourse. Nice touch with the Invermectin comment though. Subtle as an oil spill. Let me guess, you don’t like 45? 🤣 |
"including the inventor of mRNA?" Good lord man, do you *really* think mRNA was invented by a man??? mRNA was "invented" by evolution (or God if you believe in that...stuff). mRNA codes for proteins, and the vaccine is just mRNA strands that code for a specific spike protein, and has the body's cells produce it to tirgger the immune response. You can either learn facts, or spout nonsense. Clearly you've chosen the latter. |
You agree that you should get advice from medical experts yet cite a purely partisan political source. The study referenced by your Federalist citation was retracted. Shocker, I know.
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Your reaction resemble a child reaction when he "proudly" spot an error in the discourse of a grown up... Do you really think that a simple evident OMISSION error writing in a post justify your insulting post instead of a polite correction ?
Look in a mirror and analyse yourself your own reaction... Call that a free medical advice by me...
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I cannot fathom the general stupidity about masks... Yes we must keep one in risky environment... No forced mandates about masks EVERYWHERE are not a solution here...like MASS vaxx... Education,rational action, free consent of a population are the hallmark of democracies... We cannot imitate china and beat it in dictatorship... They are stronger than us in this field...But are they ? Who is behind mass forced insane vaccinations here? a clue: not China....
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