Thiel Owners

thieliste

Nice catch! I hope those CS 2.7 speakers find the next good home.

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@ydjames I have the 2.7 with the Thiel outriggers.  Currently I am using the stock spikes and coasters.

There are a few folks on the thread that are going to try the GAIA products and I'm waiting to hear what they think.

solobone22

Thank You for the CS2.7 and Outriggers confirmation. During my auditions, my ears could not discern a difference with/without Outriggers on the CS 2.7 and CS 3.7 Models.  Still, it is pretty cool to own.

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@jafant I think the only difference was it makes the speaker a little higher with the outriggers and that was a good thing.  that and the outriggers make it harder to tip over ;-)

CS6 in Atlanta

solobone22

Right On! both accounts. Enjoy the Holiday season.

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halifax

Nice catch! I hope those CS6 speakers find the next good home.

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In my experience, there was a difference which I could not ignore when my 2.7 had outriggers installed.

The soundstage was more expansive, taller, and deeper with layers to it. Imaging size and "shape" is more articulate. Overall, it is a tremendous wholesome improvement I hear and it gives a music reproduction... a lack of a better fitting description, "an anchor" or a strong sense of foundation to the music.

Regarding footers, I owned the GAIA 3 (or 2, I could not remember) footers previously, and it was installed with a bookshelf stand. Earlier in this forum thread, I came across a short report that GAIA took away some bass. This is true in my experience as well. However, it was a good trade-off. GAIA footers took away some "fat" in the bass, and in return, I hear more meat and bone. Bass was "cleaner", authoritative, deeper, and had plenty of rumbling articulation that fills the room it enveloped me. GAIA also gave a more thumpy mid-bass punch and a richer vocal reproduction. If you think your speakers are giving out some unwanted high-frequency sharpness or "shrillness", you may also consider GAIA footers to counter that effect. You'll end up with an almost silky smooth gentle roll-off top end, which adds to the musical "expression" for some instruments.

I have ever thought about getting the matching GAIAs with the 2.7, but I figured that the installation is not easy for a one-man operation. Hence, I tinkered with the idea of having spike plates/coasters/bases/pucks.

Am looking forward to hearing more aftermarket spike plates/coasters/bases/pucks recommendations from fellow owners here.

How thick are the outriggers ?  The locking nut on the spikes are 7/16" ,

I would think that the outriggers would be the same are at most 1/2' thick as to not change the speakers height .

I have the outrigger spike sets using the spikes with the original locking nut , but at $500 for the aluminum outrigger bars the cost is not in my budget .

Ydjames, I have been searching for outriggers for Thiel 2.4s, these are probably what I will go with, they dont seem to be as nice as the original Thiel ones, but they also seem like they are nicely built, from soundocity.com

halifax

Thank You for posting about Soundcity. I knew that I was missing One company.

Sound Anchor, Soundcity and Thiel Audio make (3).

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jab

Always good to see you here. Yes! Sound Anchor fits 3.6 and CS 2.4 models nicely.

I am uncertain about other Thiel speakers? I hope that you are well and still building those wonderful wood Racks/Stands.

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If members who have Thiel speakers that want another option for an outrigger/base I can offer a group buy for any model as long as the data for each speaker modle is provided. 

We do CAD/Modeling to provide illustrion of each model that will be offered. 

Large routers and machine centers to manufacture/process. 

Aluminum, brass, Panzerholz, etc... material wanted we can do. 

Not trying to hijack this thread or Take business from Rob at Coherent if he has out riggers for the other models. 

I never seen outriggers for CS 6 or CS 7.2. I'm merely trying to provide a soluion at a real world cost as we are wholesale as we make the parts. 

I'm about to try the Isoacoustics Gaia 2 for my Thiel 2.7s.

I picked them up this week.

My 2.7s sit on a thick shag rug, covering a sprung wood floor.  I have tried all sorts of footers and isolation - Thiel spikes, Herbies gliders, cheap spring footers from amazon, expensive Townshend Isolation bars and more recently Primacoustic Recoil Stabilizer platforms.  In every case I've preferred the sound of the Thiels sitting directly on the floor.  There is more connection to the sound and I like the timbre of the sound that way.  However, I do have a bit of bass warmth I'm trying to work out.   So I'll see how it goes with the Gaia.

I actually have had a set of 4 isoacoustic pucks which I'd bought to try under my turntable for isolation (I went with Townshend isopods instead).  At one point I put them under one of my speakers just to try out.  Didn't think much of what i heard (softer, darker sound).  But then, they weren't made specifically as speaker footers.

I'll report back how it goes with the Gaia.

(I don't have the outriggers for the 2.7s.  As I remember, I actually gave those outriggers to the person who bought my 3.7s, because I didn't have the outriggers for that speaker).

Hopefully the Thiels won't be too tippy with the Gaia.

I've experimented with a bunch of

Happy Friday! All

I'm also waiting for my Gaia 2 footers with the carpet disks, hope this will work out for my 3.7s.

Duramax747, some outriggers for the 2.4 would be awesome, I do not think Coherent Source has anymore left

Halifax,

I will need to digitize the Thiel outriggers and create a CAD model. From there the file will need to be programmed and posted to router. Set up and tooling also. This is all before the part is manufactured.

That time and cost needs to be absorbed in as many units as possible to drive the price down. The CS 2.4 has different screw mounts so that would need to be another CAD.

duramax747 - I wonder if Rob would be interested in partnering with you. Perhaps he could be one of the customers and individuals could group-buy from you, and he could get additional inventory to sell to others. I would be interested to investigate non-metallic solutions that you have mentioned. We might also experiment with isolation inserts to decouple the spikes, etc. from the outrigger. There is experience on this forum to guide potential solutions. Those experiments could be engineered to be reversible for further learning.

Tom,

This is about helping the Thiel community for me so this is an interesting proposal. 

Not sure if you want an outrigger or base but can do either or both. 

I feel with your design input and Rob as seller the Thiel legacy lives on which appeals to me. 

Lets get some ideas for our CS 7.2 also. 

duramax747

Very insightful of you to offer this service. No doubt that there will be customers for an Isolation base and Outriggers. It is important to preserve the Thiel legacy.

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There is a set of walnut 2.4s for sale in Trappe, MD. If someone is willing to help get them to me (metro Atlanta area) that would be wonderful, but if you want a pair, this seems to be a nice deal. Boxes, manuals, even outriggers.

Seems like a wonderful deal - 

btw - Trappe, MD is towards the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay.  Might be good to check if anyone is going to the Florida Audio Expo in February (start a thread) and if they intend to drive.  Perhaps they could meet you somewhere on the way down.  Not looking for myself right now but I might follow the ad and I did move for FL from the Northern VA area outside of Washington, DC and if for some unknow reason the speakers are still available in just a over a month (I doubt it), I might re-think it and make some calls.  I suspect, however, that most people going to the Florida Audio Expo from that area will fly.  You may wish to go to the Florida Audio Expo site and look at a list of exhibitors and see if any are coming from that area.

danomar

Nice catch! I hope that the Speakers find the next good home.

The 1st pair of CS 2.4 that I auditioned had Walnut finish.

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cascadesphil

Thank you for the follow up. Should make for a nice trip either way. I certainly would not ship these Speakers. The Bay is pretty this time of year.

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Winter Solstice

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Hi all

Thiel CS 7.2 owner from Thailand.

I actually inherit these Speakers from my brother in law.

I used Audia Flight Strumento No.1/No.4 to drive and in my opinion, they are perfect matching.

My system

good to see you all here.

bas79,

Welcome. Very nice set up. You have the same CS 7.2 finish as I do. 

Whats your impression of the 7.2?

Those 2.4s look to be in great shape, that’s a great price. But they also very likely have the FST-sourced crossovers. Would be good candidates for @tomthiel mods (Clarity caps, Mills MRA resistors, etc.).

Hi duramax747, 

Good to see you!. cs7.2’s sound is incredible when I put Audia flight in. They are a bit sweet, warmth, huge sound stages and easy to listen for every kind of musics. 

i can listen to it all day long during working at home.

bas79,

When you take the time too dial them in you will be rewarded. You would need to spend a considerable amount more to better them. 

beetlemania

Good to see you as always. Thank You for commenting on those CS 2.4 speakers.

I hope that you are well and enjoying Family this weekend.

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bas79

Welcome! Good to see you here from Thailand. Nice System.

Take the time to read through this thread. You will find a few 7.2 fans/owners on the Panel. I look forward in learning more about your Musical tastes.

Greetings from the U.S.A.

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duramax747

Thank You for chiming in on the 7.2 loudspeakers. No doubt that you are a Thiel expert, owning so many Models. Enjoy this Holiday weekend.

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@bas79 Congrats on your 7.2s they must sound spectacular with Strumento no.4 amp!

I might get a pair of 7.2s in the future when i will be able to build my dedicated listening room.

@thieliste good to see you, too!!

I am sure that CS 3.7 is also one of the best Thiel speaker ever!!

@jafant my musical tastes is gearing more toward ‘Music Lover’ than ‘Audiophile’ My only sources are Roon and Tidal. I don’t have time to do Vinyl playing, even I know that it will sound great.

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bas79

Thank You for the follow up. I started out as a Music Lover as well. Then graduated to Audiophile or the best playback system for the music. Good to see another Audia Flight fan/owner. I have always wanted to demo their gear. Goldmund too!

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All

for those interested in Straight Wire cables/cords, there is a nice write up over on

Positive Feedback.com  In the article/review, there is a "click Here" that will link the reader to Straight Wire website. At the website there is a section to enter your Stereo/ H/T gear for a system evaluation. Very cool feature.  I know that we have a few fans/owners of this brand on The Panel.

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Merry Christmas! ALL

Members that want to get themselves a Christmas gift I would encourage you to look at the Pair of Krell FPB 250MC on US Audiomart that have been recapped so good for many years to come. 

If you have not heard the Thiel/Krell combo you need to try this pairing as they will do them justice. 

Not affiliated with the seller or ever discussed the Krell for sale with seller. 

duramax747

Nice catch! A great Christmas gift indeed.

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@duramax747 I recently listened to Wilson Audio Sasha Alexia V pairing with Boulder 866 all in one for 30 mins in several songs and I feel my system Audia Flight St1/ST4 + my CS7.2 sound better in term of bass , sound stage and dynamic and naturalization.

it might not be the apple to apple comparison but I think CS7.2 can match to any current speaker costs 30-40k USD easily. Just my thoughts. Not sure is anybody have different view?

bas79,

I agree with your observation wholeheartedly. Thats why I decided to keep them. I use Pass Labs X600.5 and XA 200.5.

Tom Thiel has recently acquired these monsteres and hope he will be offing a crossover upgrade for these spesakers. Also wiring and binding post. 

I'm going to design a base to fit the CS 7.2 to do them justice. 

So with some additional upgrades they will be an incredible value. 

bas79

Your ears do not deceive. The DAW speaker starts to compete with modern Thiel Audio loudspeakers. To my ears, Wilson Audio model Alexx V($135K)  will crush any Thiel speaker at a substantial price-point. This is a Testament from Jim's vision.

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