The science of opinion ...


Some may find this interesting (it is).

Some may find this threatening (it isn't, it is science).

Some may read it and use it to help them understand the dynamics of internet forums.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0078433
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thyname,

"...he got into an argument with me simply because I mentioned a reasonably priced..."
Why on Earth did you get into that argument? Why just not ignore him, if he is that bad?

"Yes Ethan, it’s me. I am so scared right now 😂"
Why different name? Isn't that what this Ethan man was accused of doing a few posts above?
"Inquiring minds want to know."
It does not seem that inquiring minds want to know.

It seems to me that minds already know everything they want to know and any other knowledge is not knowledge at all.
Why different name? Isn’t that what this Ethan man was accused of doing a few posts above?
What are you talking about? It was a Facebook group. On Facebook, I have my full name. It’s Facebook. On forums, like here, I use a handle. Just like you. What part of this is so mysterious for you?

Do you use “glupson” as your name in your Facebook account?
The Definition of Knowledge - Knowledge is what’s left after you subtract out all the things you’ve forgotten from school. School, as a kid, my mother would say, “You should enjoy it. One day you’ll have to work for a living.” No, I won’t, ma. I’m going to be a comedian



Enter the fabulous glubson Brer Rabbit and Tar Baby Routine. Enjoy! 😉 
thyname,

Do you use “glupson” as your name in your Facebook account?
No. I do not have a Facebook account. However, if I did have it, I would use glupson. Why do it any other way?

Nothing is that mysterious except why you engaged in a conversation with a person who was treating you poorly. What made you continue?

Somewhere above, it also mentions that Ethan Whiner uses fake accounts. How does an account become fake? Isn’t it all fully virtual? Aside of that, to me Ethan Whiner seems like a name made up for a movie, or something like that.
No. I do not have a Facebook account. However, if I did have it, I would use glupson. Why do it any other way?

So that your family, friends, co-workers, etc. know who you are, and interact with you?

Is your only social media purpose trolling the audio forums?
“So that your family, friends, co-workers, etc. know who you are, and interact with you?”

>>>>>All of which assumes they like the Brer Rabbit and Tar Baby routine of course. 🤡 Humor is subjective.

“Is your only social media purpose trolling the audio forums?”

>>>>>He’s still thinking about the question. 🤔
TBH, I have to join the Glupson camp on this one.
I do not use Farcebook, Twatter or any of the other "social media" merry go rounds.
Personally I have no desire to share my dirty laundry with the world.
Any of my family, friends, co-workers want to know anything they can pick up the phone and call me !

So why here then?

I for one never said this was the ONLY forum I frequent but I much prefer the topic specific ones like audio, Porsche, drag racing etc than wordwide nosey parker busy body type platforms.
Just me but I suspect I am not alone.

And I come here despite the trolls, silliness and hilarious at times posts to try and learn something new most times.

Which I have many days and have bettered my system because of these forums not in spite of them, IMHO.

And it is a great way to start the day with a good laugh!


That's great. I have nothing against people not using social media, like Facebook.

I was simply answering his question why I use my real name on facebook vs. a handle in forums. 


Here’s a riddle. What do you get when you cross an obsessive compulsive isolated loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash? You get what you deserve - an internet troll! Only kidding! 🤡 Please, no angry emails. It’s hard sometimes to turn off the laugh machine. 😂 


Thyname
Absolutely understand your post but I felt I needed to post my point of view and it was not intended as any slight to anyone.
Just my maybe out of date perspective on the subject.
Old habits die hard for this Englishman!
thyname,

"So that your family, friends, co-workers, etc. know who you are, and interact with you?"
They know who I am. They have my phone number and address. They can easily reach me and do it every day. More often in person than over the electronic means.

“Is your only social media purpose trolling the audio forums?”
This is the only one I visit. Trollingwise, may I remind you that I have not mentioned any name of a person not directly participating, or interacting with me here, and dragged it through the mud?

I simply became curious why you would have different names. Hardly a trolling, whatever the trolling means.

By the way, you have not answered my question why you have different names. It is fine, you do not need to, but just so you know, I have not noticed any post by Ethan Whiner talking bad about you here.

"It’s hard sometimes to turn off the laugh machine. 😂"
Take the batteries out. No more teacher's dirty looks.
You questioned the reasons why I was using my real name in Facebook and a handle in this forum. And I explained you why. What else do you want?
The Brer Rabbit and Tar Baby routine can sometimes be very drawn out. 😬
thyname,

I apologize if I misunderstood your answer for a question.

“So that your family, friends, co-workers, etc. know who you are, and interact with you?”
I did not expect an answer will end with a question mark. My bad.
thyname,

No, I really did not know it. Now I do.

Anyway, would it be fair for any of the Ethan Whiner dislikers to inform him that he is mentioned here in strong words? Maybe he could present his view of his personality? For those of us who do not know him, it is now a few who dislike the man and spill all they can against him vs. some unknown man who keeps quiet.
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thyname,

I meant to, and then decided not to, mention that I am not Ethan Whiner. It seems that anyone here who is not talking about him in some rude way gaets renamed into Ethan.

I will check that link.
It's not "Whiner". It's Winer. Ethan Winer.

I have read his audio expert book. It's on Amazon. Some very good advice from Ethan in there. Especially on the acoustics realm, room treatment. While I disagree with him in terms of "everything else is Snake Oil", I have to give him credit where he deserves it. As they say, "listen to the wisdom of an old man, not to his farts".
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Note - When glubson says he really doesn’t understand, statistically there’s a 99% probability he’s telling the truth. 
My real name is Ethan Whiner... But only on alternate Tuesdays when there is a Full Moon.... Sadly the rest of the time I stick with Elizabeth. Even though that too is not my real real name. My real name is a government military secret.. Being a dolphin in a tank, it is hard to get out and enjoy other folks company in person...  
The funny thing is, I am really not a dolphin in a tank, but a clever 700 year old alien cuttlefish disguised as a dolphin in a secret military base studying dolphins...   So even my secret military name is not my real real real name.
A mystery inside a mystery...  
Someone's tea was spiked this morning!
🙄🙄
Note, when geoffkait makes a post, statistically there's a 99% probability the post will add 0 value to the discussion.
Please no ad hominem remarks, Ethan! Try to construct your arguments, such as they are, logically. And if you play real nice I may even let you win one.
thyname
It’s not "Whiner". It’s Winer. Ethan Winer.

>>>>>Well, uh, you know...
geoffkait,

"Note - When glubson says he really doesn’t understand, statistically there’s a 99% probability he’s telling the truth."
You almost got it right. It is 100%.
geoffkait,

Thanks, but I make sure that I write the truth. You know, I check if people eat ice-cream in space before writing it.
thyname,

Ethan Winer gets two points. It may be unexpected, but at least his marketing strategy is not that dry.
People should stop letting others take their threads into La La Land. Best to just ignore posts from those who habitually post nonsense, spam, etc. Also spam can be reported for deletion by mods to keep the house clean. Let’s all do our part to help keep Agon clean. It’s a big job these days.
his marketing strategy is not that dry.
Agreed! As they say... "it's the money you moron!"
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mapman,

I think the seemingly mindless meanderings of a certain poster and other posts made in this thread (and other threads) more clearly illustrates the concepts communicated in this paper than any planned demonstration could ever hope to achieve, and to that end, it will meet its educational value to those that want to learn.
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This looks like it was published in  an on-line  forum.  As a one-time experimental psychologist I would say that this paper does not meet basic standards for publication because of the lack of documentation of the procedure followed in its experiments.  I could not figure out at all what was actually done to the subjects to get the data. Then the authors cover this up with an elaborate model which seems to be excessive for the basic points it tries to make, which don't really show anything new.  In other words rubbish research.
@elizabeth 

The problem with that is unleashing unbridled censorship whenever an OP does not like a post. I would be against that. 
Rather, anyone, on most browsers at least, can already flag posts for deletion that violate stated Agon guidelines, like spam, or being abusive to another among others.  So everyone already has the ability to help police the site based on the rules if they just care enough to take the time to do it. 
In the first place this thread is neither funny or educational. How do you like them apples? Is it apparently conceived to draw attention to the OP, who apparently truly believes he’s some sort of prophetic science geek. Other than that, it serves as a platform for my high-diving audio humor. Of course humor is subjective. The dynamics of internet interaction. I mean, come on people!
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elizabeth,

I would like an ability something less shotgun like than an out and out block of a user, as say Facebook which would prevent them from responding as they can never see your threads, to something more scalpel like, like blocking users on a per thread basis, just to save the effort of having to continually remove posts.
I would like an ability something less shotgun like than an out and out block of a user, as say Facebook which would prevent them from responding as they can never see your threads, to something more scalpel like, like blocking users on a per thread basis, just to save the effort of having to continually remove posts.
I believe that was actually one of the aims of the "Insider" project, which unfortunately gained no real traction.
If I remember correctly I think there was talk of the OP of a thread created under the Insider forum being able to  block users from said thread.

Its been a while so maybe I am wrong......
"...lack of documentation of the procedure followed in its experiments."
Now, you are talking.

I am still hoping to read about methods used to achieve what teo_audio stated about horses being taught to use calculator.
Also I was under the district impression horses can speak but that might be due to too much TV. That’s pretty interesting if horses really can use a hand calculator you know, since they don’t have hands. Do they use hoof calculators? Maybe I’m wrong about this thread not being educational.
Not every thread gets derailed. This one has such a broad and open topic that many things could fit.

There are more focused threads where you can get real answers to real questions and in which, even with occassional humor, it stays usefully focused.

Threads like this are more like a bar where you can vent and go home afterwards. How much harm is done?
geoffkait,

teo_audio already clarified that one. He/they started using smaller calculators for hummingbirds. There was a problem with horses. Which makes me question his initial statement about Ethan Winer's use of calculators.