Thank you Frank
At least we have hauled this thread back into a semblance of sanity with relevant posts.
At least we have hauled this thread back into a semblance of sanity with relevant posts.
The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....
New SR BLUE fuse thread ...
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
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In the meantime, I'm listening to a magic music machine thanks to the Blue fuses, Herbie's tube dampeners and Total Contact. Here's a couple of music recommendations: Double bass and piano. Incredible mid-bass and low bass on this recording. Audiophile quality and really good music to boot. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fantasien-Fuer-Kontrabass-yasunori-hoffmannn-r-Kawahara-Audio-CD/3120777637... This is a well priced four disc set. The first two discs are mono, the last half of the third disc and the entire fourth disc is in stereo and has excellent sound. Tal Farlow was no lightweight on the guitar, that's for sure. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tal-Farlow-7-Classic-Albums-CD-New/142221077551?epid=232576181&hash=ite... Frank |
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uberwaltz I think your getting paranoid, wasn’t me, maybe the mods are just doing their job without being egged on. Cheers George |
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Same old rhetoric from the same bunch of "snake oil" fusers. Don’t you think there’d be more support for your >$100 "snake oil" fuses and with directionality from the leaders of the audio industry. The only reason you could possibly think a >$100 fuse could be better is if the old one has seen too many switch-on surges and has deteriorated over time below. Or as Ralph (Atmasphere) puts it, "expectation bias" in spending >$100 for a $2 fuse. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
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For those advocating a tally on those who think aftermarket fuses work and if they've tried them, it's already being done by Doug on the thread titled We Need A Separate Forum for Fuses | Audiogon Discussion Forum. That kind of went the way of the Do Do as all the usual suspects, like the ones here, saw it as another opportunity to derail a perfectly good discussion. As I've said before, and as others have pointed out, there's more here than just denial. All the best, Nonoise |
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thecarpathian"Personal attacks should never be encouraged. You can take an opposing viewpoint, you can express that viewpoint against that which you oppose." User "georgehifi" has decided he has the right to personally attack others hear because he believes we are stupid delusional and anti-science unlike him who has the facts to back up his deeply held religion so if that is offensive to you you will probably have to alert the Moderators which is something I will not do because it reveals that users such as "georgehifi" are in fact arguing from fantasy and pseudoscience and using bullying tactics to further their savior agenda. |
geoffkait"OK, I’m going to got out on a limb here are guess that the fuse Uber Skeptics" Kindly correct me in the event that I may be mistaken because English is not my native language but my understanding of the work "Skeptic" is that it is someone who has "doubt" but as we have seen here these people do not have "doubt" they have firmly decided without reservation that fuses do not matter even though many purchasers of such fuses have obviously decided for themselves to the contrary position. What is particularly of great interest in this matter is that the "Skeptics" have not actually tried the fuses that they oppose with such vociferous attack which further supports my suggestion to the assembled group here that they are not "Skeptics" at all but denyers naysayers and disbelievers in the actual science of listening even though they claim to have science on they're side! |
@georgehifi, I respectfully disagree. Personal attacks should never be encouraged. You can take an opposing viewpoint, you can express that viewpoint against that which you oppose. But to personally attack, unprovoked, an individual because of his viewpoint should never be condoned. I'm not talking a lighthearted jab, or some witty back and forth banter, or generalizations. I'm talking petty insults,-no matter how cleverly veiled the poster perceives them to be-little digs, denigrations, etc...Although it's going to make these threads a lot less entertaining, it's the right thing to do. Unless, you know, the other guy is just beggin' for it.... |
OK, I’m going to got out on a limb here are guess that the fuse Uber Skeptics, the ones who believe this is all one big conspiracy, even in light of NASA developing advanced fuses right along with HiFi Tuning, Isoclean, Synergistic Research, Audio Magic and many others, probably also believe the following, A. 9/11 was a US Government ploy to make Saudi Arabi look bad. B. The first walk on the moon by the US astronaut was staged in a back lot in London by Stanley Kubrick. C. The world is secretly run by a class of highly intelligent reptilian elite. D. Hitler survived WWII and lived in South America until he died in 1985. E. Back to the Future II foretold the rise of Donald Trump and the corruption of society. F. The US Military was behind the Hindenburg disaster because we wanted to take over the market on hydrogen airships. |
georgehifi"Personal attacks against hocus pocus statements with Electronic Engineering facts is in my view to be encouraged." This is a message of hate ignorance and intolerance it is the message of a self appointed self annointed self important elite based on a deep feeling of personal superiority in intellect and value. You see yourself as a savior as others have duly noted here but I see you as an object of pity an example of how your society has abandoned your personal needs to such an extreme extent that you feel it necessary to promote personal attacks against others in a forum FOR AUDIOPHILES for god's sake! Go ahead georgehifi attack me and others' who's ideas you can't accept in your head! |
jetter Unlike Geoff’s "everyone but the dumbest knows it to be true" argument, which at other times is the opposite, "the flock is following the wrong shepherd", depending on the direction of the wind, I am not interested in putting in much effort discussing fuses. >>>>Actually that’s not my argument at all. My argument is that of those who have bought aftermarket fuses over the past 20 years or so, the vast majority - by a ratio of around 1000 to 1 - hear and appreciate the difference a really well designed fuse makes in a high end system. And we actually don’t care if the other side is in some sort of mental anguish and denial over these fancy fuses or if they wish to use comparatively primitive stock fuses. It’s no skin of anyone’s nose. It appears there are some folks here who believe this is all some kind of insidious global conspiracy run by unscrupulous charlatans designed to fool innocent and gullible young audiophiles and grab their cash. Note: Jitter, for someone who claims to be “not interested in putting in much effort discussing fuses” you certainly are active in this thread as well as other fuse threads. What’s up with that? Just idle curiosity? 🤡 |
Unlike Geoff's "everyone but the dumbest knows it to be true" argument, which at other times is the opposite, "the flock is following the wrong shepherd", depending on the direction of the wind, I am not interested in putting in much effort discussing fuses. I am just saying in this day of computer apps I would love to see an A'gon have a count mechanism to provide a tally of what the many of us mostly silent, mostly not emotionally involved audiophiles believe. Not to prove something one way or the other, but just for informational purposes. Maybe three choices; 1. I have tried aftermarket fuses and they improved the sound; 2. I tried them and they did not 3. I haven't tried aftermarket fuses because I have no desire to. Come on, this is the computer age and we do not have this functionality. |
jetter I have brought this up several times in the past. I wish there was a way to do a quick tally, vote count, to see how the general readership feels about a topic. In the end this is just my opinion, but I think the tally would support George's viewpoint over that of the usual gang of vocal tweakers. >>>That’s an excellent question. Having followed the whole fuse evolution for almost twenty years (as well as NASA’s own fuse development that began about the same time) and having been privy to the great many discussions of aftermarket fuses on this and many other audio websites over the years (yes, there are other other web sites, surprising ain’t it?), and having had aftermarket fuses myself (unlike most of the more vociferous skeptics), I think I can say with complete confidence the “score,” as jitter puts it, is around 10,000 to 10, which takes into account the onesies and twosies on this formum who bit the bullet and either bought an aftermarket fuse or were given one to try and didn’t get the same positive results that the other 10,000 or so got. I guess we’ll have to file that under, That’s the Way it Goes Sometimes. Sorry to burst anyone’s balloon. 🎈Or to cause anyone to suddenly develop a brain aneurysm. 🧠 |
There is nothing more pathetic than a mind slammed shut.Don't you fusers think that the likes of Nelson Pass, John Curl, Dan D'Agostino ect ect ect would have something to say re >$100 snake oil fuses if they made their products sound better especially when directional'ity is bought into it as well. Or do you fusers think your above them as well. Cheers George |
Do you "snake oil’ers" really believe you hold a candle to Electronic Engineering principals, which BTW all of your equipment is designed by and uses and is measure and tested with, then listen to and if needed modded and re-tested, measured using the same EE principals again to make sure. The only thing you may be hearing is fuse degradation over time caused by too many switch on surges when equipment is turn on. Just go out and buy a good quality $2 fuse replace it and save your money not purchasing a >$100 voodoo fuse which some of you claim to be directional, another big Furphy. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
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I believe that on a forum thread conflicting opinions and viewpoints are to be expected and shouldn't be shunned. At the very core we are all just a collection of music lovers who want good audio systems to improve the home listening experience. Many of us have been accused of succumbing to voodoo and snake oil. I doubt that anyone loses sleep as a result. Each individual determines what works successfully in their respective system. IMHO no need to be thin skinned or sensitive to opposing points of view. All perspectives should be allowed and readers are free to agree or disagree. Okay time for some "fresh" wolf sarcasm 😊. Charles |
I’ve recently plead my case to the moderators (I’ve been too lazy at times to bother with some) about how arbitrary and unnecessary it's been that a post of two of mine has been eliminated, and each time I’ve done this they’ve been reinstated. Although I think oregonpapa’s friend Fleshler is clearly a handsome and real smart guy who is also a Wealthy Man (his words), he’s a member who has said he reports people (like me) to the moderators as a matter of course…this trend coincides with his relatively recent appearance on these forums, and I think it’s likely that’s where this is coming from. So to Fleshler I say please stop. Thanks. |
