So you think wire conductors in cables are directional? Think again...


Here is a very relevant discussion among physicists about the directionality...the way signal and electrons should flow... based on conductor orientation. Some esoteric, high-end manufacturers say they listen to each conductor to see which way the signal should flow for the best audio quality.

Read this discussion. Will it make you rethink what you’re being told and sold?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/is-a-copper-conductor-directional.975195/
edgewound
Let us just say for the sake of argument that you take a look down the street and the car parked a mile away seems to be moving around. Some people look and say no it is so far away I can hardly even tell it is a car. Others look and say not only is it moving around but it is changing shape as I look at it.   

You cannot settle this argument so you enlist a physicist. The physicist explains in no uncertain terms the bonds in metal make it far too rigid to possibly be changing shape. The mass of the car and gravity mean it cannot ever just rise and float above the road. It is impossible. You are imagining. It is all in your head. Someone is selling you snake oil. 

Until a physicist specializing in atmospheric research comes along and says well look, this is all perfectly understandable. The sun heats the road, the warm air rises in currents. Warm air is less dense and so light passing through it is refracted, bent. This perfectly explains what you are seeing.  

The people with poor eyesight, they still see only an unmoving blob where others with sharper vision see clearly a car moving with the heat waves.  

Science does not exist to prove or disprove human experience. Science is nothing more than a method that is has been proven to be the most reliable one for eventually figuring out how the world works.

Please do try and keep these different ideas separate and clear in your mind. If you can just manage to do this one thing it will be amazing how much more clear your understanding of so many things will become over time. Not now, maybe not tomorrow, but gradually over time.
your posts are getting real tiresome!
Your posts were tiresome when you were roberjerman and they are still tiresome now.

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AND the rest of the names IT post under. Robertdidit, audio2design, d2tech, how many more times, how many more names?

"REAL TIRESOME!", I’m the OLD mechanic, I will fix this problem, you can count on it...I’ll fix the problem OR THROW away the PART..

Smarten up Craphead52 you have ZERO positive to offer

Anarchist, plain an simple pedal you dissension else where.

By YOUR ways you are known.. They wrote about people like you 3500 years ago.

How ya doing rodmann99999? Been a while.. Cary's still cooking along?

dekay
3,644 posts
05-13-2021 9:55am
Q: What did the edgewound resistor say to the capacitor?

A: Watt’s up.

DeKay
🤣Sounds like current events. VI=P

rodman99999
4,979 posts
05-13-2021 9:09am
If ignorance is bliss, those unfamiliar with the nature of science must be experiencing Nirvana. They simply CAN’T grasp, there there exists more than one THEORY, concerning electricity and that THEORIES don’t prove anything. Try a little update there, at least to the 20th Century’s science, Sparky!                                                                           ie: https://www.quora.com/Are-photons-involved-in-all-forms-of-electricity-for-example-when-it-flows-thr...    and:  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=2348                                                                                                                                                   You can argue, whine and moan amongst yourselves, as I find your incessant/willful ignorance tedious and a waste of keystrokes.
You have gone totally off the rails thinking that any of this has to do with analog audio frequencies in a wire. It doesn't. 
Create a thread where you can praise each other of how sensible and clever you are. We are not going to iterfere there or try to convince you by any means
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It's already been done. It's the link the OP provided.

All the best,
Nonoise

Q: What did the edgewound resistor say to the capacitor?

A: Watt’s up.

DeKay
Something for the offensive and illiterate one at the top of this S-Show of a thread idea...to try and wrap his puny & purposely antagonizing troll based mind around.
But I doubt he will.
I follow the arrows on my expensive cable.
When I don't, the music/vocal tracks are heard in esrever!

As stated in article read years ago- "directional arrows are put on our cables because the consumer demands them"

If someone can "hear" a difference with "directional" cable and you can't it means....they can hear a difference.
If ignorance is bliss, those unfamiliar with the nature of science must be experiencing Nirvana. They simply CAN’T grasp, there there exists more than one THEORY, concerning electricity and that THEORIES don’t prove anything. Try a little update there, at least to the 20th Century’s science, Sparky!                                                                           ie: https://www.quora.com/Are-photons-involved-in-all-forms-of-electricity-for-example-when-it-flows-thr...    and:  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=2348                                                                                                                                                   You can argue, whine and moan amongst yourselves, as I find your incessant/willful ignorance tedious and a waste of keystrokes.
As i believe that people can be more civilized, I have a suggestion for the ones who deny all, the mischievous, the theoretical experience gurus and all those who just want to call themselves crusaders. Create a thread where you can praise each other of how sensible and clever you are. We are not going to iterfere there or try to convince you by any means.
So why don't you leave the rest of the empirical ones to suffer in their hobby?
i believe it is a vey fair suggestion.
Not accepting counteroffers.
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your posts are getting real tiresome!
Your posts were tiresome when you were roberjerman and they are still tiresome now. 
Ahh edgewound, the newest genius has arisen from the dust of the last. Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust..

Back on your meds again I see..

I suppose we’ll all get a good shellacking about, engineer this and engineer that.

Good Lord little johnny come lately. Catch up and quit making a FOOL out of yourself for the umpteenth time.

Manic again are we... STAY on your meds, stay off the BOOZE!!!

Just an observation from the LAST 10 times you pulled your Anarchy CRAP!!!! GD Troll and your buddies..

How many personalities do you have? Really you gotta stay ON the meds...

You’re becoming a kenjit (nuisance for short).

Master M, he's back....:-)
BLA BLA BLA Broken F***in record.. How may times were you clowns set in the corner for NOT LISTENING.

You site some half baked crap from WHO? "Someone that says"

No one claims anything. The claims are from the flat earthers how "OTHER" people, (NOT THEM) CAN’T hear what THEY hear.

Why not say "I can’t hear the difference", "Others MAY".

Ignorance is bliss, so is a limited ability to discern the difference in cables, gear, acoustics and God forbid a TWEAK that works..

Your THREAD is here to do one thing collect fungus, at least that has a purpose, the little conversation you referred to is as old as DIRT..

LEARN to listen for yourself AND QUIT speaking for others.

Hearing aids... One Mouth shut. Two ears OPEN. Try it...
WRT  https://www.nordost.com/faqs-directionality.php

This particular example has nothing to do with directionality - the cable utilizes a floating shield and the end where the shield is connected should be plugged into to a "grounded" component.

Nordost are wrong to use an arrow because they have no idea which component in your system is grounded

In my system 

  • my phono stage IS grounded at the mains
  • my Node 2i IS NOT grounded at the mains
So connecting these cables to those two components would have the arrows pointing in opposite directions.

Personally, I have not observed differences in direction of cables when trying this with a new interconnects

But I have observed differences when reversing an IC that has been "broken in" and then reversed.
  • does this mean the wire is directional?
  • or is it the impact of reseating the connectors?
  • the IC resumes its previous characteristics after a couple of days - "reseating"
For me the verdict is still out, but this particular "example" simply demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge on the part of those debating the topic in the "Physics" forum

Sorry - just another opinion


People with vested interests (manufacturers and customers) have a stake in maintaining their claims that cable A is sonically "better" than cable B - without the validity of proper A/B tests. Like religion their beliefs/claims are entirely fsith-based.
Cable companies use clever advertising to prey upon the gullible and insecure to gain marketing advantage!
Scientific discussion will not dissuade the "true believers" from their beliefs about qualities they attribute to wire.
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