So you think wire conductors in cables are directional? Think again...


Here is a very relevant discussion among physicists about the directionality...the way signal and electrons should flow... based on conductor orientation. Some esoteric, high-end manufacturers say they listen to each conductor to see which way the signal should flow for the best audio quality.

Read this discussion. Will it make you rethink what you’re being told and sold?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/is-a-copper-conductor-directional.975195/
edgewound
Yeah but he used Audioquest once and didnt hear any improvement. It isnt his opinion it is his attitude. 
teoaudio and taras22 or whatever the fuck you call yourself....you guys are both fucking crooks. Fake science in audio is not cool. The elements don’t lie...but you two fuckwads have no problem lying to the globe about your fake audio physics

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Time for you to leave.. Learn some manners. AND LEAVE.

Just as simple as that. You are NOT welcome to type whatever you want here Mr 4 post..

Cables have arrows for people just like you.  The People like you STILL install CABLES (NOT WIRE) the wrong direction..

Kind of like "with the directions written on the heals" and you still get your shoes on the WRONG FEET.. 

DUMMY!! 

Don't go away MAD, just GO AWAY..

I got your fraud "HANGIN", DUMMY!!
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Obviously. People with “state of the art” speaker wire from Parts Express: obviously they don’t have arrows. Therefore… wires are not directional. Very obvious. Case closed. Abort abort abort the pursuit 
With all joking aside, I’m confident that from the listening position, a half dozen strategically placed throw pillows can influence sound more than any speaker wire, no matter how much it costs or which direction the arrows are pointing.
It also depends on the resolution of the system. If you have a system that is "more than neutral", it would be easier to hear the difference. When I say "more than neutral", I mean the system sounds brighter than usual.

For example, if you intentionally have the tweeter level more than a few db above the rest of the audio frequency, then any changes in equipment can easily be heard.

And of course having a good hearing also helps.
Did the OP get bored? What happened to him?

Banned?

He joined in April 2021 and already has in excess of 250 posts. It’s probably just one of the resident gadfly’s many accounts.  
I use state of the art speaker wire (12 gauge oxygen free copper) purchased at Parts Express and terminated by me personally with high-tech gold plated banana plugs ($11 each).  I usually drive Usher Dancer speakers with all that awesomeness but sometimes substitute them with Tektons.  I once had some AudioQuest speaker wires just to see what all the talk was about, but I came to my senses and sold them a month or so after purchase and bought something useful, a new set of Mizuno forged irons and a couple of dozen ProV1s.  I will admit that it never occurred to me to turn my homemade speaker wires around.  I will try that to see if it sounds better, although it sounds pretty good the direction they're facing now.
Interesting…. What speaker “wire” are you currently using, and what speakers? Amp? Thank you 
I'm just glad I do not possess hearing sensitivity that would allow me to tell which end of a copper wire is connected to the speaker.  Such an acute sense must certainly be a curse.  Without a doubt, such people get little sleep and can not concentrate as the constant din of audible input would be maddening.  

With all joking aside, I'm confident that from the listening position, a half dozen strategically placed throw pillows can influence sound more than any speaker wire, no matter how much it costs or which direction the arrows are pointing.
Just a day or so prior to when the forums section shut down for about 3 days, he stopped posting.

All the best,
Nonoise
@clearthink

do you remember this?


 You posted this at early in the thread…….


“This is vile, hateful, prejudiced language, the reference and addressing of people who are individuals as Australian or Mexican or Slavic one's nationality has nothing to do with who they are so moderators are acting properly, correctly, and justly in deleting such remarks of racism. “



Then you post this….

05-28-2021 2:11pm

“either high, or just a kid with a computer in mom's basement


The user seems to be a bright child of about age 11 and if he is in the US then he may very well also be high I understand such use is common in American children.”




The first quote is from you in a thread I have been following on vintage cartridges. You sir are a very negative person and a hypocrite. You need to look internally instead of spewing your condescending woke bs.
Go to your profile and look at your contributions to this forum and ask yourself why you are here and would this place be better without your attitude.
It just so happens that I went from that thread to this one and had a chuckle.
I am sure you will have this deleted.


I have wasted too much time on this.
I come here to learn and have fun. Not to get into battles over this white knighting  virtue signaling crap online.
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You might have a point if resistance was the only parameter that mattered...but it isn’t.

Btw it doesn’t sound like you have ever listened to one of our cables....have you?...like I would hate to jump to the conclusion that you are doing a drive-by thru just auditioning by spec sheet.

Cheers
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Additionally the alloy (a similar one, ingredient wise) is used for advanced medical procedures - inside people’s bodies in specific ultrasonic transmission devices. tiny ultrasonic snips and in ultrasonic breakage of things like kidney stones.

It is used in that way... as... if the fluid cable breaks (snaked into the body-device and cable are one), it poses no harm to the body and the body eliminates it, it flushes out. 

it makes wonderful, wonderful transmission channel or path. it is between a gas and a solid, it is a fluid.

In the early-mid 90's the us government designed a balloon like antenna for use on tanks. they filled a oblong balloon with a particular chargeable gas and then ran their RF energies and frequencies through it.

the antenna ended up being entirely non directional, and not bandwidth limited and could handle any complex multiplexing load that could be described by the transmission hardware. that the antenna had no shape/bandwidth/frequency range limitation. that the two normal parameters ---did not correlate. 

those parameters are: antenna shape and size vs what the antenna can transmit or receive. these aspects have been worked out into solid functional math so the one can take a piece of wire then on paper perfectly predict how it works as an antenna.

with the charged gas antenna, all the rules went away. their principle desire was to be able to grow a new antenna if the old one was  shot off or broken off. with the gas bag antenna, all they had to do is inflate a new one out the hole where the old one was. Instant fix, and no limitations of any kind as a side effect. 

You'll find old reports about it and finding those reports about it were more common on the older web, lets say 12-15 years ago or more. It went black since then, no further data found. although the math, the physics  and the results are sound. this is all known stuff for charged gasses.

In the case of a fluid metal alloy for a 'transmission line' or 'antenna', we end up with a combination of the known aspects of the theory and the math at the same time, some of it is thrown out and we get to the results of the charged gas antenna, of 'no limits'.

wire has limits and screws up at all frequencies except one, and that is tied to it's psychical dimensions and the materials it is made of. A wire cable's complex LCR is a function of the solid lattice structure of the wire itself.

with the fluid metal cable, those limitations don't exist. and like the charged gas antenna, if it is made into an inductor coil, things get weird. really freaking weird. but the bandwidth, the transient response and the quality of wave that it can deal with and pass along, is off the charts as compared to wire. Totally different and pretty well superior to wire (scientifically indisputably so) in any way one wants to calculate or imagine. one of those weird cases where informing people of the science of it seems like commercial spam, even if it isn't.


The three levels of entry level cables are not that pricey given the performance they deliver ( the entry you posted btw is quite old and we have since extensively revamped the line-up to include some more cost friendly products ).....and as for the HAZMAT issue, it does apply to one of the elements found in the alloy, but not the alloy itself which is very stable ( the problem with gallium is it melts aluminum and since the HAZMAT folks are closely tied to the airline industry anything that could potentially compromise an air-frame at altitude is a big problem, therefore the HAZMAT issue ) ...as for the implied negative interactions of the alloy with clients, not a problem, in fact the alloy has been used in medical grade thermometers as a safe alternative to mercury for a couple of decades now ).

Cheers
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Yup, a conductive alloy that is liquid at room temperature....and has been used to very good effect in audio cables for over a decade.

Cheers
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I like: Silversmith, Inakustik, Black Cat and for value Analysis Plus. What I have heard from Purist was also extremely good. The best small company cable I have heard is Bionics Cable which may have to be made to order. 
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Perhaps a more pertinent / relevant question is the difference between solid core vs stranded cable. The difference can be very distinct. I find good solid core such as AQ or Transparent to have a very solid grounded sound whereas good stranded cable such as the QED Genesis Silver Spiral has a marvelously airy sound and huge soundstage. Directional signal flow optimization may indeed be real, but the difference is not near as much. I do own directional speaker cables and have experimented.
Bet ya not willing to wager on that one are ya cowboy? Giddy up.
Clearthink, did an American treat you poorly or something. Ya seems to have a real hate on for us Yanks.

....ok I am willing, I wager $10(USD).......
Cheers

I wouldn't doubt that snratio also has a side business spamming people with constant emails, forever changing his address to avoid being sorted as junk, with those ads for male enhancement with that guy drinking from a giant gourd somewhere in Africa.

All the best,
Nonoise
It's kind of a interesting phenomenal.  Someone with only a few posts making all the noise.  First it was the yessomething guy, now it's snratio.  
Was not in that thread pardner. But there is no mistake as to who you are. Puttin all of the Yas and Y'alls and cut little isms in there doesn't change a thing. Still the same message, attitude, and person. Hopefully this stay is as short or shorter than all of the others.
Y'all got some strange conspiracy theories going here. I missed reading that whole California thread before it got deleted, but looks like that was just the icing on the cake. Gonna guess ya were in that thread weren't ya csmgolf? Gonna
Apparently the person behind dletch2, audio2design, sugabooger, atdavid, dannad, heaudio, hotdogbob, plus several others, that now calls himself snratio thinks that if he talks like a cowboy, no one will realize it is the same person. How long until this one gets the boot as well? Hopefully not long. 
Bet ya not willing to wager on that one are ya cowboy? Giddy up.
Clearthink, did an American treat you poorly or something. Ya seems to have a real hate on for us Yanks.
Never said I had one or not, but one thing for sure, neither or ya have even a university degree in what we are talking about.
Kinda funny but you don’t either....and considering the circumstances actually really funny....

Cheers
thynameither high, or just a kid with a computer in mom's basement

The user seems to be a bright child of about age 11 and if he is in the US then he may very well also be high I understand such use is common in American children.
I gotta thank ya for telling me about Bob Smith. Found his web site. That is some darn good fiction he has got going there. Can't tell if if he don't know what he is talking about or he figures his customers won't know the difference. Fine situational comedy. Don't need the Friends reunion when ya got that.
Never said I had one or not, but one thing for sure, neither or ya have even a university degree in what we are talking about.
Getting carried away here. Perhaps this scientific video will help explain why cables matter. I'm not affiliated with First Run Copper Cables in any way. 

https://youtu.be/TneNgdfhIoQ
Y’all post a copy of your PhD with transcript and I will post mine?

So you don’t have one...not surprised, but hey, that is ok, not everyone can have one, like you have to be special eh....a word of advice, don’t cry about it, just get on with your life and you’ll be fine...I mean look at all the wonderful work you’ve done here over the years...

Cheers
Ya spelling unflinching wrong.
How many of these wire guys ya think draw their own copper or silver? Belden? Ya don't listen to draw direction, ya pull out the microscope.

edgewound "I recognize everything about you, just from this post. Alan Parsons wrote a song exactly about you. Be very careful...Karma is watching."

Is this a threat @edgewound ? What is it exactly, precisely, and concisely that you plan to do don't be shy be a man come out and state you're case big man be brave bold don't let anyone push you around, silence you, or limit your expression in any way you are a Brave American I am sure!
Y'all post a copy of your PhD with transcript and I will post mine? No? Didn't think so. Ya all blustery, but ya got nuthing. I look at your posts. They are all the same, just change the words up a bit. Nary a word that relates to the topic. Do ya have anything to add to this topic? Why don't y'all with your foaming mouth tell us all how the cable bandwidth doubles.

snratio
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Bein nice and 4 years don't get you an education. If he knows "stuff" then why does he say so much stuff that is wrong?"

You seem to be oozing, "foaming at the mouth" with ignorance, misinformation, and a grand ego and obviously in need to finish your education at least to the level of high school although if you are in the US even that level may not be be sufficient, adequate, or extensive enough to cure you of your youthful exuberance, confidence, and sense of absolute, guaranteed, perfect infallibilty so just stay with getting an education and you may get there also if you are in the US consider Scouting it is very good for some youth!
Bein nice and 4 years don't get you an education. If he knows "stuff" then why does he say so much stuff that is wrong? Ya all like to post links, but ya may want to find out if those links are from people who know their "stuff", and not just saying what you want to hear. Hear .. pun intended.