Please Make Audiogon Cool



I think that there are a lot of experienced and interesting people on this site. Some in retail, some in manufacturing, and probably some really cool artists, scientists and engineers of all sorts of backgrounds.


I want to encourage those of you with something to say, a point of view, a helpful idea to post.


Without this type of interaction, Audiogon becomes just a shopping support group. If you care about the Audiogon community and would like to see it go in a particular direction, then please contribute in the way you feel most comfortable and engaging.

Thanks!

Erik
erik_squires
Hi Timmy,

Pants have thoroughly been doused, thank you. 
Cupcake Cool sustained, just a little crispy on the top. Nothing a little extra frosting can’t cover up. 
Thank you dear, luckily I’m in the middle of the San Fernando Valley, away from the hillsides. But the smoke has been awful this past month. 
Cheers pal,
Evan
Audiocase LA 
Hello Evan,

   I hope you can stay cupcake cool with all those fires in SoCal.
  Judging from your last post, however, I believe your pants are likely on fire.

  Love you but please douse those pants,
             Timothy
            XOX
Good day Timothy,

So I see; you're the best! 
Of the crumbs left back mid-west.
Your people all flocked here
Thought they'd act as their career.
Blowing money on tickets; go see Carlos Santana;
Hollywood Bowl population: more than Indiana.
Now we're stuck with your lames,
Constantly asking, "Spare change?"
So you're calling me 'Hollywood cool'?
Naw fu*k that! North Hollywood, foo!
I'll tell you this first so listen to me
I don't eat cupcakes, unless they're gluten-free
Wash it down with a smoothie, blended fruit, acai! 
Self-proclaimed 'Cool' like you stock it in excess
No wait, you do that for work: stock room, Parts-Express!

Tell Cleveland that they can have Drew Carey back, soon as he pays off all his debt. 

Hope you have a wonderful fall afternoon!
Evan
Hello Evan,

     Being an LA native, it’s understandable that you’re not hep to the current coolness matrix well known in the rest of the world.
     LA residents, especially natives, are referred to as "precool", as in pretend and pretentious cool. Midwest residents, especially natives, are referred to as "gen cool", "bone cool" or "deal cool", as in genuine cool, cool to the bone and the real deal cool.
     It’s based on the theory that Midwesterners are formed into a natural and genuine hardness and coolness by the pressure of their life experiences and stressful situations demanding a cool courage.
     Alternatively, the theory states LA residents are formed into a fragile insecure façade or shell of coolness, also known as "Hollywood cool", "acting class cool" and "cupcake cool", by the lack of their life experiences and stressful situations that demand close to nothing along with the only character building force identified as being a heathy dose of peer pressure. 
     It’s analogous to enormous internal earth pressures creating diamonds and a soft squeeze of a soft tube creating paste.
Sorry to break all this to you, Evan, I thought everyone knew this.

Tim

@noble100  hey man, as a 31 year old LA native, I feel as though I am in a particularly "cool" enough demographic to assert that you are, as the great Andre 3000 once exclaimed, "What's cooler than being cool? ICE COLD!" 

You're one Ice Cold brotha.
So please, spit anotha verse
No need to rehearse
This thread can't get worse

Now if someone could tell me how to pull up the emoji keyboard on a macbook via the chrome browser, I think I'd be one step closer to being 'Audiogon Cool' 

Haha +1 to cool audio forums and those contributing to this underground culture

Best,
Evan

Hello Elizabeth,

     Normally, you're correct. But I'm what the psychiatrists have, over the past two centuries, variously termed in the major scientific journals technically as Naturally Cool, Innately Cool, Thoroughly Cool, Cool to the Core, Cool to the Bone and Cool As A Motha'.  
    The identifying characteristics of these individuals are  a coolness that is genuine, effortless, interesting, exciting, utilitarian, substantial,deeply thoughtful, very satisfying and just obviously spectacular examples of coolness.  These individuals are without a hint of trendiness, pretension or superficial flash and would never, under any conceivable circumstances, be considered uncool.
     No conundrum, just me being me with natural freedom.

Tim
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     I'm cool as ice but still wanna be nice
     Being nice is just part of being cool
     The alternative to nice is being a tool
     Being a tool is the exact opposite of cool
     I'm gonna round 'em up and move 'em on out
     Spewin this Ode to Cool in a rhythmic shout out.

You're welcome and no charge,
      Tim
@elizabeth,

You make a good point about the boutique manufacturer being alive and well, but they are drops in the sea of total stereo sales.


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I think this hobby was made cool by the pioneering DIY hobbyists who created it.  Hi Fi wasn't brought to us by big business. Big business took it over.

If we want to make being an audiophile something other than a consumer hobby we have to encourage more DIY and make more opportunities for personal innovation.


It's a wonderful hobby, but I don't know anyone who thinks it's "cool".
I wish it was.

I was pleasantly surprised last week when one of my sons’ friends was visiting from out of state and at the house, and my 28-yr old son went out of his way to show him my gear.   He was proud, they thought it was “cool”.    But since it wasn’t even turned on at the time, it certainly had nothing to do with the sound.    But it was still memorable.   Jim
I don't think listening to music through a good quality system is nerdy or uncool, it's spending time on a forum discussing it that's lame.
Lynnj, I agree and don't think that any stereo system is complete without a turntable!

boxer12, since you already have the last three attributes: humble, honest, and good looking you sure don't need to worry about being cool. For myself I'm just really good-looking, it's in the genes.
I'm really not that cool. I am however humble, honest, & very good looking. 
The conversation here can get a bit uncool, but whenever a person comes into my house and sees a real stereo system with a turntable ready to play vinyl, inevitably they say “cool”. Just maintaining this equipment and analog media is cool. 
So as a community we should know we are by definition cool. 
Noble100, darn it, its not only that we are worried about the humans extinction but rather how many that do remain are indeed really human.  Over and out.
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Well said. I don't know about you, but I've grown rather fond of the humans. It's a shame they may all be extinct soon.
Give anyone species too much rope and they'll **** it up.

Roger Waters "Amused to Death"
Hello phd,

     Well said. I don't know about you, but I've grown rather fond of the humans.  It's a shame they may all be extinct soon.  Interesting species; they're obviously not too bright and lack a long-term perspective but they also mostly seem to mean well.  

Tim from Planet Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Clearly most audiophiles are very cool people and have a lot of interesting things to say, especially if you call this a lifestyle. In addition some people may think that we are obsessed, rude and overbearing at times and that certainly comes out on some threads for some folks but
not all.

Here is a thought worth mentioning and you have heard before, aside from constructive criticism if you don't have something nice to say then don't say nothing. It could actually leave people with the impression that visit this website on occasions, that we are actually a nice bunch of people.
Hello enliten,

      While I believe you have a good point about a bit of 'social media techno-isolation' going on here, I believe there's also a bit of real human interaction going on around here even though it's undoubtedly taking place within the virtual environment of an audio blog.  A modern version of the older, more traditional method of honestly communicating our thoughts to each other via letters, quill, parchment and the beloved snail mail network?  

     I perceive it as a bit of real human interaction but neither the modern audio forum nor the old letter exchanges were, or ever will be, an ideal substitution for the real human interaction of a face to face personal conversation with another of our species.


Tim
Hmmm, wondering if there's a bit of 'social media techno-isolation' going on here? Too bad there's not a bit of real human interaction, we may find we all have something(s) completely in common in real life ???

Or maybe we'll all freak out.... In any case, it may be an experiment worth trying sometime.
Trolls are like cats. Lay out a blank square in the middle of nowhere and one has to come and sit on it.  Put out some pretty things on the counter and they have to knock them off.

If you worry, at all, about what trolls think or project onto you, you become their slave and incapable of acting from authentic spontaneity. Nothing clutters your mind more than when you start to worry you'll have trolls complaining about you. It's like looking into the mind of madness.

Just letting people know how I pick my directions.


Best,

Erik

glupson to clearthink: "There is a possibility that noble100 also lives in Australia."


Hello glupson and clearthink,
      Lighten up clearthink and be cool like glupson. 
      I actually live in Indiana but love Australia and, for the most part, Australians. I consider Australia and the U.S. as countries with a kindred spirit and am very aware that Australia is considered a Western country culturally, economically and politically as well as a close ally to us militarily. 
     I was just messing with George and can assure you both that Australians can take a bit of messing with them as well as dishing out a good dose of some good-natured messing in return.


G-Day mates,
Tim
Hey noble100, 

I knew you were just joking, seems  ---clearthink--- did not.  I was just copying his rant and pointing out to him that Australia is the west :-)

Come' on roberttcan, lighten up!
      I was just messin with George in a well considered and, I thought, in an obviously good natured and satirical manner.  I think there's a strong kinship between Americans and our Australian brothers and sisters.
      Of course I know Australia is considered by most people, including myself, as a western style country culturally, economically and politically.  I actually love, respect and enjoy Australia and the many Australians I consider friends.
     Sure, the men are probably overly affectionate toward their sheep and other farm animals and the women are obsessed and very promiscuous with Americans. However, when it comes to messing and joking around, I can assure you they can take it as well as they give it.  Can you?


Tim 
Hate to break it to you, but Australia is most definitely considered "the West" culturally. 



clearthink
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10-24-2019 4:49am

noble100
" He lives in Australia, he's constantly wrong, his wife's a kangaroo and he doesn't use a class D amp"

This is vile, hateful, prejudiced language, the wholesale, unconsidered denigration of those who live in another part of the world and you're conviction that you're "Western World" has achieved some sort of unusual excellence and superiority. 

clearthink,

There is a possibility that noble100 also lives in Australia.
Sometimes I channel Da Vinci or maybe Da Vinci Code but usually I’m just channeling PT Barnum. 🤡

noble100
"
 He lives in Australia, he's constantly wrong, his wife's a kangaroo and he doesn't use a class D amp"

This is vile, hateful, prejudiced language, the wholesale, unconsidered denigration of those who live in another part of the world and you're conviction that you're "Western World"  has achieved some sort of unusual excellence and superiority.
I'd tell everybody to, as Mick Jagger famously said at Altamont, "Please!"  "Cool out!"  The trouble is, I just dropped my brand new Dartzeel Ultra Premium Mono Amps on my feet as I was taking them out of that flimsy carton they come in.  Not only did the Zeels take out my tootsies, they took out a good chunk of my Class A+ audiophile-approved parquet floor.
*sigh*L*

...look @ all the feathers, blood, broken furniture, spilled drinks, and shattered sheetrock around here.

Helluva party.  Glad I missed it....

'liz7, AC wouldn't have made a dent in the temps...Ice9, maybe.... ;)
"The future belongs to the polymath"
If teenage behavior is anything to go by, future belongs to Instagram.
Engineers ARE cool. So are audiophiles. And so too are scientists, activists, biologists, and musicians. Intelligence and knowledge always beats lack and ignorance. 
"Engineers cant be cool" - Things uttered by people tripping over each other to buy the latest thing an engineer is selling.
"I think we should take it easy on georgehifi."

"Love you George..."
It is a loving thread, indeed. From the very start.
Maybe he didn't wear a hat outdoors before they fixed that huge hole in the ozone above his house.

     I think we should take it easy on georgehifi.  He lives in Australia, he's constantly wrong, his wife's a kangaroo and he doesn't use a class D amp.  The only things he has going for him are being angry and having ulterior motives.

Love you George,
      Tim
    XOX
georgehifi,

Even if it is many many, we have to start with someone so why not you?

So what is it that makes you so angry, or whatever word would fit better, on this thread?

What is preventing you from simply not following/reading any of the erik_squires' threads? Ulterior motif of some sort?

Seriously, give man a break. He is not your type so stop following him. Think of him whatever you want but do not incite these abusive discussions here.
aggressive reaction from you?
take a look at the threads the aggro is from many many here.

georgehifi
Yup. And thank goodness the moderators are monitoring the abuses here, as evidenced by the deleted posts.
Yes I think the OP should be banned from starting any more threads, as they are nearly all BS related or have ulterior motives behind them.

>>>>>>Ulterior motives? I personally don’t have ulterior motives. I make it quite clear my intention is to take over the world.
georgehifi,

"...I think the OP should be banned from starting any more threads, as they are nearly all BS related or have ulterior motives behind them."
A glance over erik_squires’ threads will reveal that he must be a person of broad ulterior motives. Topics range from specific speaker material to making audiogon cool.

"Nearly all seem to incite the worst abusive discussions among many members here..."
What is the reason? Could you tell us why this particular thread incited such a strong and, may I say, aggressive reaction from you?

It does not seem that anyone else took it so seriously. In fact, it seems like a very light and mostly friendly thread.
I've never encountered anyone as full as himself as you, Georgie. You got one thread closed and you're high as a kite, deluded into thinking yourself some omnipotent presence with expanded powers that even confront and ignore the mods with your personal attacks and cursing.

I think it will be you that will be banned and/or deleted by the mods if you keep it up.

All the best,
Nonoise
Yup. And thank goodness the moderators are monitoring the abuses here, as evidenced by the deleted posts.
Yes I think the OP should be banned from starting any more threads, as they are nearly all BS related or have ulterior motives behind them.

Nearly all seem to incite the worst abusive discussions among many members here, and they should be stopped, as they drag Audiogon into the gutter.

MODS!!!!! Please ban the OP from starting more threads.!!!    
Hmmm, maybe, in the spirit of many responses here, we should thank everyone who opted not to participate.

Otherwise, erik_squires' first response is running for the "audiogon best post of 2019".
This has simultaneously been the most important, revealing and fun thread I have ever started anywhere.

I would like to sincerely thank everyone for participating with such passion.
Very, very, few audiophile are considered cool by anyone.

What would a website frequented by audiophiles ever be cool ????