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Now just a waiting game.....
Now just a waiting game.....
Perfect Path Technologies: Omega E mat
I’m curious about this product from Perfect Path Technologies and would like to hear from those that have experience with it. I’ve bought and used the Total Contact enhancer and like what it does for my system so I’m interested in hearing how this Omega E mat performs.
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The mat was put through a number of test to see what materials would stop the effect, 2inch solid marble, 3/8's thick rolled steel boiler plate, 2" solid granite, 1"thick extruded aluminum none of them were up to the task. There is no benefit to taking the cover off your panel, and installing the mat inside the panel. |
@oregonpapa...……………………. One of the wires on the main cable was not screwed down tightly inside the main panel. With 3 a/c's and the dryer running, the connection wasn't solid enough and the resistance from that caused heat. I reset the breakers 2 times before the flames came out of the panel. Something told me to go back down in the basement. Thank God I did. I feel better knowing the mats don't go deep inside the panel. I have been following this post and it is quite interesting. Now that I'm retired, I couldn't/wouldn't indulge, but it is fun to learn something new. I am not as narrow minded as some thought I was. |
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^^^ I did my panels by attaching one mat to the inside of the metal door of the panel, and then the other one is up against the switches themselves. I removed no switches, nor did I fool with any switches. There is nothing touching any wires anywhere in the panel. In essence, its just a stock panel with two Omega E Mats magnetically attached to the inside of the panel door. In addition, there has been no TC treatment inside of the panel anywhere. Stereo5 ... It sounds to me as if you had a wiring short in your panel. Not the case here at all. But, thanks for your concern. Frank |
@oregonpapa...…………………………. The way I understand it, you put the mats inside the panel where the wiring is? If that is the case, I question what would happen if your panel caught fire, would the insurance company balk? Back in 1985 right after I bought my present house, I smelled something burning in the basement and there were flames coming out of the panel. I shut the main off and was lucky. It turned out the screw that holds one of the main wires was loose and we all know resistance=heat=fire. I had to have an electrician replace the entire panel and some of the wiring, but I saved my house. Are my concerns valid? |
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My actual statement was thus: "Over the 40+ years that I’ve been in the hobby, I have never found a tweak that improves the sound so well as TC and these Omega E Mats." Either shadorne has a reading comprehension problem, an intelligence problem, or in his quest for attention, is being totally dishonest here. Either way, shadorne’s credibility stinks. You’d think the least he could do would be to quote with accuracy. Shadorne ... you’re credibility here is already shot. Why continue shooting yourself? YOU shadorne, are what is shameful on these threads, not the legitimate posters who want to further the hobby. For God’s sake, shadorne, read the positive reviews coming forth from those who are using these products. Try to get a clue. Read Steve Fleischer’s review on what he heard at my house yesterday ... then go from there with a more positive attitude. Thanks ... Frank |
The nonsense continues. “Best product in 40+ years....” How many superlatives have already been used on previous TC and SR products...and yet the new mat outdoes then all (until the next product promo of course) Shameful what has happened to Audiogon forums ....highjacked for K-tel style blitz marketing |
@oregonpapa "My comments on emotion vs facts is because you have no facts on this particular product, but you take an emotional stance against it. Why not just believe what others who've tried these products have to say?" Frank, I apologise if my direct nature in approaching, well anything really, offends people. I guess I am just a straight shooter. Ask a question, get an answer as expected. if I don't get it, I ask more. I still need to show down in retirement, and want to fill as much as I can while I can. To all I have offended, apologies. A. |
fleschler ... I enjoyed your visit at my place today. I was thrilled to see that you heard the same things that I have with the Omega E Mats. I'm going though withdrawals now that you've taken your mats home, *lol* Let me know how they work out in your system. I know you're not getting much sleep as it is ... but now? :-) Please post your results here. Thanks ... Frank |
amg56 ...
1. What it does: It improves the sound well beyond where you ever thought your system could be. It just sits under a component and seems to charge the component up somehow. 2. How it does it?: No one knows except Tim. But what it does, it does ... in spades. Over the 40+ years that I've been in the hobby, I have never found a tweak that improves the sound so well as TC and these Omega E Mats. And like you, amg56 ... I've been burned on several tweaks before. Frank |
Enter your text ...@perfectpathtech I understand your wish to keep the IP under wraps until a patent is applied, whenever that it. However, you do have the product on sale so the "tech" is available for a purchaser to check out, plus instructions. So I think that the intention of the mat can be told, otherwise what are we to do with it? To use it to it's full potential, a user will need to know what it does and how it does it. No? |
Tim, Thanks for the answer. General Mat update: Though one does not need loud volume levels to hear the effects of the Mat, I was shocked by how much louder I could turn it up with the mats in place. The noise reduction is so effective that I can turn up the volume to more realistic levels without it sounding “loud”. I have never liked to listen to my music too loud but without the annoying electronic noise, that I did not realize was there, the music is sounding more life like. The simplicity of use with this product is a huge bonus. Reminds me of Stillpoints. This is is why I am having so much fun with this Mat. One complaint. Lack of sleep! rc |
I am intrigued enough to await the smaller versions. I was about to pull the trigger on a Synchro mesh reclocker at$700. However that will have an effect on just 1 item, my vault2 feeding into the Lyngdorf DAC. $700 is going to net me 11 of the smaller versions that I can scatter liberally on various components in different proportions to ascertain their effectiveness. I am hanging on for now |
Amg56, Anything I say is just conjecture..other than it is not a totally rigid surface and is somewhat compliant. Tim has shared some ideas and insights with me before but none I am aware of that relate to the Omega Mat. He is tight with all of that. As with any forward motion such as TC..one learning curve may fire another great idea, related but not of the same mixture or material. Whatever is going on with this Mat the result is real. Tom |
I just heard Frank’s audio system for the first time. He has the same speakers and CD player as I do, with a pair of Hallographs and 10 SR HFTs. Otherwise, our audio systems are different. I was enthralled with the dynamically robust, tonally colorful, rhythmically engaging, full frequency extension, fast transient and detailed presentation of music. We started with Yello-Touch, Ellington Jazz Party, Brubeck Impressions USA, Opera (Don Carlo), modern Pop vocal Allyson Round Midnight, jazz harmonica, guitar…a big serving of all types of recordings and music. The sound was outstanding, better than my system in detail and pace, lacking only in deepest bass since I have a slab foundation and he has a not too secure raised foundation (sucks the bass) and my room is about 3 times larger than his. There was that organ recital CD he put on that had really robust and tactile feeling bass. However, after removing the triple Omega E-mats from under the CD player, pre-amp and amp, the sound became less engaging, less dynamic. It still retained most of its beauty but having multiple stacked mats made a significant difference. Since everyone’s system is different (his Audio Research gear has thick aluminum chassis, my pre/phono and amps have thin steel chassis for one big difference) there could be a difference in how many mats are needed to achieve the result I heard at Frank’s . I stayed for a few hours despite the 100 degree weather because the sound/music was so engaging. I had only intended to listen to a few CD selections. I’ve only heard a few high end systems do what his does, maybe three per audio show and another in a friend's home. I credit the Omega E-mat for the difference. It was very obviously a huge benefit, as stacked in his system. Next is to test them on my system to see what a single mat per equipment/electrical panels does. |
@thaudiotweak Is if flexible? Do you put component feet on it or it on the component? (which may lead to overheating). Is it thick/thin/smooth? 12 inch square? I am stretching the information friendship, but nod if I am the correct direction, if it follows on from the other tweaks from the same source, it would be a progression of the TC enhancer, it might use the same material, over a larger area to utilize Graphene's properties to capture emissions of a component, grounding them? or redistributing the field evenly thereby smoothing the sound field? or floor? appearing to "lower" the sound floor by taking the strongest interference and diverting it elsewhere... Am I close? Without saying so? |
@perfectpathtech It would obviously be foolhardy for you to reveal all that has gone into the R&D of the E-Mat. I would hope most of the sharp minded folks here get that. Being a strongly dominant left-brainer, I like to know as much as possible about a phenomenon so as to fully appreciate it's nature. I think it was Frank who mentioned our ears as the test equipment for devices such as your's. I wholeheartedly agree. The ear-brain interface in humans still surpasses any measurement regimen IMHO. Looking forward to seeing your site. |
@uberwaltz I have committed to a have website done by the end of this month. I will launch the card with the site. Not here to discuss my business plan, but being able to produce this thing in volume is a big concern of mine. @resolution1 yes the power strip would be perfect for the cards, the mat is way to large, and the strip will benefit. @amg56 I do have one question (amongst many that I know will not be answered), but how can you really tell what effect this Omega E mat is having on your system when there are so many "tweaks" you have already applied to your system? I will answer it. regardless of the number of tweaks in a system, the power in both is not subjective. It is so strong there is no mistaking it. Fact is, achieving a killer set up is lots of time and money regardless whether you use my products or not or in your words impractical. You seem to want dismiss the honest testimonials of other members. You have also glazed past my post earlier today, about the why I do not want to go into detail about the construction or why about my product in detail. Do you not care or respect that I want to protect my intellectual property and product? Sure seems that way. In lieu of my position I offered the money back return to offset the controversy. I hope you can see my point of view. |
Bill..no balanced power. Omega Mat is like having a conditioner that takes up no rack space requires no AC power and no guici power cord. It is portable so you can put it wherever you think it may work the best. You can take it to a friends house to demo..there is no muss no fuss..nothing to tear down and hook back up. Heck you dont even need to put it on Audiopoints to allow it to perform its best..I will try it under a cello decked out with my reactive devices. Tom |
Amg56 ... Thanks for your response, I appreciate it. I don't believe that I have denigrated you in any way, and I won't. Ever. As far as how I can tell how various tweaks work? I have two of the most sensitive meters on the planet ... the human ear. Both you and I can detect minute changes even in nature. Have you ever hunted small game? You can hear the tiniest, faintest, little rustle of brush. We as humans are tuned into that. Same with our audio systems. The improvements afforded by both TC and the Omega E Mats are so significant that its easy to hear the difference. No problem at all. So, your suggestion of starting out with a virgin system really doesn't make sense. Its totally not necessary. My comments on emotion vs facts is because you have no facts on this particular product, but you take an emotional stance against it. Why not just believe what others who've tried these products have to say? As far as the rest of your questions regarding what goes into the manufacturing of the Omega E Mats, I haven't a clue ... so I'll let Tim Mrock step in here to see what he wants to reveal, if anything. By the way, Steve Fleischer just left with his six mats. I'll wait for his comments about what he heard here at my home. Take care ... Frank |
Pop quiz: What the heck is in the mat? (Multiple Choice) 1. Crushed Tourmaline and quartz crystals 2. Quantum dots 3. Alternating layers of mu metal and Graphene 4. Buckeyballs 5. Higgs boson particles (God particles) 6. PWB Morphic Message Foils 7. Amber with fossilized prehistoric insects 8. Smart metal 9. Depleted uranium |
I never found or cared for any power conditioner installed in my system. The mains transformer on the ground is about 40 ft from my breaker panel which is in my audio room. I treated the conduit coming up from the ground as well as the box that my meter is attached and the breakout cable that goes from that same meter box into my panel on the other side of the wall all with Total Contact.. Amazing difference but not as much as placing a Omega Mat on my transport and another on my preamp. This is what power conditioning should be all about...very impactful in so many ways. Tom |
@amg56 re: your 5:09 post Very well said. It seems that sometimes those who have a vested interest in the topic, in this case the promoters of the E Mat, do express emotional reactions to those who are skeptical or more importantly as you mentioned in your post, inquisitive. If someone expresses any skepticism, they project their emotions onto the inquisitor. Interesting psychological phenomenon!🤪 re: your post at 5:33. Please keep your political opinions to yourself. There has been a pretty strict understanding that we want to keep politics out of our hobby, away from this forum. We all need somewhere to go to get away from it! Thank you. |
@oregonpapa I do understand about EMF and RFI but what does the mat do though? 30 day money back guarantee is not much to me. I have exchange rates and associated loss, time taken to post, evaluation time to assess the product in my system, which I assume means to "use" it on each component to empirically assess any change discernible. even if I was interested, the whole exercise would be impractical. You say my opinions are not based on facts? What are the facts. I have not seen anyone posting facts. I am not basing any of my enquiries on emotion. What is there to be emotional about? Its a mat, which is an inanimate object. Why would I be emotional about that? I would go far enough to say is the mat supporters that are getting emotional. I have asked for information on what my USD$600 is going to buy me and what is its purpose, how does it work and some baselines so that I can verify for myself the metric of any improvement within my system. So far, I have been called by insinuation, a troll, miscreant, a person not to be associated with, emotional, negative, a naysayer, I have a screw loose. Very nice company you keep on this thread. I do have one question (amongst many that I know will not be answered), but how can you really tell what effect this Omega E mat is having on your system when there are so many "tweaks" you have already applied to your system? Objectively, you should be applying this product to a virgin system and measuring it's effect on different components which have not been already "tweaked". This question is not emotive, antagonistic, troll like etc. I would call it "enquiring" or "inquisitive". And I haven't called any one names. |
Bad news on the Mats, guyz ... I'm holding six Omega E Mats for fleschler. He's picking them up in about an hour from now. Last night for the listening session. I added two each of Steve's mats under the CD player, the line stage and the amp, bringing the total up to three mats under each unit. Both Robert and I were completely blown away with the results. Harry Pearson (HP) used to refer to "The Holy Grail." I think the system is getting close to that. Yes, I know there is even more noise to be removed ... but my God, how good can this get? Look, I know there are those posting here who think I've over-hyped this product. As I was telling Steve on the phone ... if I were a more skilled wordsmith, I would be singing even more accolades toward this product. Its THAT good. The bad news? The mats are cumulative. The more you use stacked, the better the effects. Expensive .... but worth it in spades. No joke. Frank |
