Coot,
No, i did not compare.
BC does some power supply enhancements to the icepower unit used with the 1000m specifically. That was the main reason i splurged. But i have not had an opportunity to compare. |
I suspect the b& ks will do a very respectable job so worth trying first. Then you have a reference for comparison once the 5000s break in.
I started with a 120 w/ch musical fidelity A3cr at first with my 5s and got good results but nothing compared to the bc's. |
Oh I've been running the b&K on the 5000's for 2 yrs. Well broken in and definitely make beautiful music together on solo piano and chamber music. But on large scale works they get congested. We also play quite a lot of pipe organ and I feel the bass is lacking support. Hence the desire for more power.
I am leaning towards the Van Alstine 600R because it's a hybrid valve/FET which may have a smoother top end than the W4S - more like what I am getting with the B&K but with tighter and lower bass. |
Okay, got you. I didn't know if this was the case or if the 5000's were new or what. Makes sense then, and you could maybe benefit from a bit more power there possibly. Those pipe organs can sure push a system to it's limits, that is for sure.
I haven't heard the Van Alstine, but have heard good things about his equipment. I would say if you can purchase with a trial, that would be the way to go in order to make sure you aren't just wasting your money there. Either way, enjoy the tunes! Tim |
Coot,
THe BC ref1000m will definitely address any congestion and bass issues. Strongly recommended. I'd expect very good results with the Wyreds as well. |
Coot,
Another amp I have used to good effect with my 5s as a pinchhitter for the BCs once is the Tube Audio Design 125 Hibachi monoblocks. These are an absolute steal usually at under $1000 when the y come up for sale here. Unfortunately, TAD was a one man shop and the designer and support guy who was great with service and communications passed away recently,
The TAD 125s are 180w/ch and go for more of a tube amp sound in a mostly SS package. With my 5s, they are lovely all around with a particularly vivid midrange. Ultimate bass authority, slam and control is just a tad behind the BCs at most normal volumes. THe BCs however just continue to expand the sound effortlessly as the volume goes up whereas the TADs will start to compress a bit sooner.
I use the TADs normally with my smaller 100S3 OHMs and they are a perfect match there! |
What is your answer to those who whine that digital amps are not great in the treble - say with a soprano voice. Not sure specifically what they mean, but I've read that many times. A roughness I think. That's my fear about W4S in particular and somewhat the BC's. |
"What is your answer to those who whine that digital amps are not great in the treble - say with a soprano voice. Not sure specifically what they mean, but I've read that many times. A roughness I think. That's my fear about W4S in particular and somewhat the BC's."
I do not hear any issues. Might be a personal preference thing for how certain amps sound in particular systems.
The BCs/Wyreds/IcePower are highly damped. This works extremely well with the larger OHMs but may not be optimal with other speakers that do not benefit as much from high damping.
THe BCs are the best I have heard with my OHMs. Other amps might have more pros and cons with my smaller monitors. THe BCs sound great but a touch brighter on my Dynaudio monitors than the OHMs. WIth my very small Triangle monitors, the sound is towards the lean side. The Triangle Titus monitors would be best served by a tube amp for example. BUt they still sound very good with the BCs. |
Coot,
I recall audiogoner Mamboni moved to the Wyred amps for his larger newer OHMs recently and was most pleased. THat is a good omen! Mamboni is/was a professional musician in an orchestra I believe and is one of the most knowledgeable OHM/Walsh driver owners I know. |
Thanks, Map. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Also for sharing your experience with others here! |
About Ohm center channels: I have Ohm 1000s and wanted to get a center channel. I called John Strohbeen during the sale. He advised, based on my space and distance from the center channel, that the Micro Walsh driver would be sufficient and voice matched with the 1000s (saving me a couple hundred compared to the 1000 driver). We then discussed my space, my mounting options, etc. He is presently building a box from scratch to meet my needs. Obviously, I haven't heard it yet, but based on the sound of my 1000s, and my experience doing business with Mr. Strohbeen, I expect it to be outstanding.
Also, FWIW, my amp is the Class D Audio SDS-470C Custom. Well reviewed, and to my untrained but willing and eager ears, sounds great. 300 WPC at 8 ohms, 600 WPC at 4 ohms, for $695. Should drive the new Walsh 2.2000s (purchased during the Columbus Day sale) quite nicely. |
Stinky,
Nice to hear of good results by others with other even more affordable Class D amps.
I've read about Class D Audio and thought this would be an interesting option to try with the Walshes. Assuming these are stock IcePower amps, I would expect similar very good results used with most pre-amps, though 10K input impedance of stock IcePower might not be the best match posible on paper with some tube pre-amps. With SS pre-amps, the performance is likely similar to similar amps from Wyred I would expect. |
Looking at the Class D Audio products, I recall now they appear to be a proprietary Class D design, not based on Icepower. So having not heard these, comparisons to Wyred or other Icepower amps by me would be pre-mature. There could be major sonic differences. WOuld like to try these sometime though and see/hear. |
Happy to share. I kind of felt obliged to contribute my experience considering how many times I have used these forums (and this string in particular). And to spread the word about John Strohbeen's generosity with his time and efforts.
As far as comparisons go, I'm hoping to get my local shop interested in hearing the Class D Audio amp. 300 wpc at only 20 lbs, I can easily move it around. If I do, I will share my (profoundly non-expert) impressions. If you're near Portland, OR, let me know. |
Feedback on 4.5000 upgrade?
Can anyone share some feedback on the 4.5000 upgrade? I recently ordered the upgrade for my 28 year old 4's, and would love to hear anyone's feedback regarding the install, as well as their opinions on the sonic differences.
Thanks, Dave |
Butte,
Have not heard X000 series yet but my 100S3s and 5S3s were upgrades from original Walsh 2s I bought back around 1982 or so. X000s are accordidng to JS evolutionary not revolutionary compared to prior series 3.
The series 3 had similar seemingly uncontrained ability to go loud and clear, however the sound quality was siginficantly refined in most every other way to compete with other more modern designs in ways the originals could not. Mostly to do with overall clarity , focus and detail across the board + bigger soundstage and improved imaging. I owned my original Walsh 2s concurrently with my series 3 Walsh 2s when I first acquired them a few years back. The difference in sound was striking at first listen and obvious in direct a/b comparisons I did at the time.
X000 series is again supposedly further refinement upon the same according to JS. |
Thanks Mapman, for taking the time to respond. I've been somewhat out of the loop regarding Ohm Walsh speaker model progression. So I must admit that I'm not familiar with models 100S3, or 5S3. I would only guess that those model upgrades are the predecessor to the x.x000 series of upgrades.
I've been so happy with my 4's all these years, that it's only been within the last few years that I have taken up the interest again, in speakers, that is.
About a year ago, or so, I had John design and build me a 3000CC custom center channel. I say custom because it's mounted from the ceiling with the driver being inverted 180°! After trying a couple of different center channel speakers over the past decade, I decided to speak with John and see what he could do for me. I am very pleased with the results.
I listen to a lot of multi-channel music, and for the first time the forward sound stage has a timbre match that is much more seamless (I should have done this long ago)!
So, I'm excited and hopeful, that the 4.5000's will be a very noticeable audible difference.
Dave |
As a happy owner of the 2000s and an older pair of MWTs, I would say, expect clearly audible, but subtle differences. Not night and day changes. This is a good thing. Unlike some speaker makers, Ohms continue to be voiced similarly by the original designer, John Strohbeen, and he is good at getting speakers to sound the way he wants them to. So, the Ohm house sound is retained, just refined further in an evolutionary way. |
Thanks Bondmanp. I guess I'm just expecting to hear a bit more detail in the mid thru high range frequencies. I still love the Ohm Walsh sound. The imagery is wonderful. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to having to remove the old binding post/control board, though. Taking a hammer, of sorts, to my beautiful speakers will be a bit disconcerting!
Dave |
Coot I'm very happy with my McCormack DNA-250. The bass respose was noticibly improved over my Sumo Polaris II. Note that the McCormack is rated at 250 wpc, but that is into an 8 ohm load and the Walsh 5000's present 6 ohms so the output is over 300 wpc to them. And the price of the amp at around $2500 is very attractive. The other thing is that if you want to upgrade the amp, Steve McCormack (who lives in Vista, CA) offers upgraded caps, etc at a variety of price levels. |
Carja - Thanks for your input. A few years ago I was hot on McCormack 500 and then they seemed to fall off the map. Seem to be weak on marketing which makes me nervous - as in about to disappear from the scene.
I see your photos. Looks like you have limited space as I do for the 5000s. I have a lot of air space due to large openings, but there is no way I can put these 5 ft from the wall. 30-32 inches is it. I know the staging suffers, but otherwise a nice natural sound - on chamber music especially. I'm satisfied except the old B&K runs out of gas and gets screechy and congested when I turn it up. |
Coot I can only put them some 15" from the wall, but the stage depth is pretty good nonetheless. My living circumstances (and my wife) prevent anything else. The 5000's include adjustment switches that help with adjustment for room placement (ask John for specifics). My only "weakness" is my SACD/CD player, which will have to do for now, but if I had $1000 to spend it would be without question on the OPPO BDP-95.
I was happy with my Sumo (130 wpc) until I got the McCormack- made a nice difference, but I liked the Sumo for a year so just enjoy what you have and upgrade as finances permit. I don't think that Conrad-Johnson is abandoning the brand- in fact, they will install upgraded capacitors in a DNA-250 if desired, and I'm sure that their service is good too. It comes with a 3 year warranty if you register it. |
If it's not out of the question for you, Carja, I can highly recommend computer audio for digital. I went Mac-and-DAC about 7 yrs ago and was sold immediately. Hi-resolution downloads really do sound better in my system - IMO. |
Bondman,
I recall you live in NJ/NY metro area.
Here's hoping that you came through Sandy OK. |
Yes, and yes, Mapman. I am a real prepper. Everyone laughed at me until Sandy hit. Unfortunately, while I know how important a whole-house generator is, I just cannot afford one, so that was the one hole in my preparedness. My basement system was protected by a sump pump and a water-powered sump pump backup. I powered everything down and disconnected from the wall sockets prior to the storm, and made sure all but my subwoofers were elevated a few inches off the floor. When we lost power, and evacuated to my parents, I took the music server's portable backup drive with me. While not an expensive item, the time spent loading my music (about 1/3 done after a year and a quarter of ripping) is not covered by insurance. But the power came back on Saturday, and by later Saturday night I was enjoying some badly missed listening (my folks have a very crappy stereo). Thanks for asking. |
See John at Ohm for the Black Friday sale! Got a notice in my e-mail, so if you have been holding out, now is a great time to buy. Happy Holidays folks! Tim |
I had a sublime experience last night. I threw the SBT on random song mix mode and relaxed for a while, lights down, chair reclined back. On came "Nathan Jones" by Bananarama. Don't laugh, I really enjoyed 80s and 90s pop. I remember this LP - "Wow" - which came out around 1990, as a really bright sounding CD. Well, yes, it was bright, but not at all in the bad way I recall from my pre-Ohm days. On the contrary, while light in the bass, it was highly detailed, smooth, and I heard lots of details I'd never heard before. I sat there with a silly grin on my mug for the whole cut. I find myself more and more often chosing to flip on the Squeezebox Touch rather than switch in the TV or watch a film. This is a good thing. Many TV shows and films dissappoint, but music from my own library almost never does. Lovin' my Ohms! |
"Many TV shows and films dissappoint, but music from my own library almost never does. Lovin' my Ohms!"
Amen, brother! |
I do the same thing Bond, only am usually streaming Pandora mixes or whatever is on my iTunes radio. Always nice for those moments when you just want to sit back and relax and not fuss with anything. The Ohm's always sounded great.
I do have to say, some of the better mixes/soundtracks on blu-ray can be very dynamic and well done, but a lot too can be downright crap. Like most things no matter if it is CD, LP or otherwise, the recordings can be a mixed bag. Enjoy. Tim |
Tim - I do use Pandora for background, especially when I am ripping & tagging CDs onto my server. But for serious listening, I try to avoid lo-res sources like Pandora. While it sounds unoffensive on my system, it can't get near the presence and dynamics of full res FLAC files through my SBT and Superberry DAC. |
Bond, shame the Squeeze Box are no more, not sure what happened there. Right now I just go lossless with my iTunes via Apple TV or directly to my Naim Uniti. There are so many ways to skin the cat, have also been thinking about a vortex box as well, but that will be way in the back burner at this point! Tim |
I've had my 5000s 4 months now and they sound better than ever. It does take a long time to break them in! Driving them with 600 watt bryston and they are very dynamic with that. I have slabs of granite anchored with tip toes and use transparent cables. I'm very pleased with the sound. Vocals are very lifelike and bass is full but not boomy. Not at all harsh either. I have just got through reading these 1800 or so posts and I'm convinced more than ever I made the right choice! I had traded in my ohm I's that I had for 30 years for the 5000's. the I's are a great speaker too. Bought some PSB stratus golds about 7 years ago and I sold them and kept the I's John S told me the I's were the best coventional rock speaker they had made |
Frazeur - I haven't had the time or the inclination to search through the Logitech forums to get the story. Unfortunately, making a great sounding music player for very little money doesn't mean much outside our very rarified world. Since you can't walk down the street with it, or import 32kbps audio files from some cloud somewhere, or make phone calls on it, or surf the net while you listen, the SBT had limited appeal to the current generation of attention span-challenged 20-somethings. A real shame if they don't replace it or license it to someone. The SBT happens to be a match for the Vortexbox appliance made in heaven. Maybe the Vortexbox folks will buy the rights to the SBT technology? Who knows. Yes, there are many ways to skin the music server cat, but the SBT was one of the easiest, most cost effective, and high performance ways ever. If you need any info on the Vortexbox from a happy user, just let me know. |
You could be right Bond, there sure are a lot of them out there though. Thanks for the offer on the vortex box. One of my friends just built one himself and loves it. I haven't been over to check it out yet, but something I have given some thought too. In the meantime, the Naim and its abilities are doing what I need at the moment!
How have your 2000's been doing? Hope all is well with you! This little part of the forum has been a bit quiet of late, always enjoyed a good Ohm read. Been wondering if anyone was able to take advantage of Johns Black Friday sale at Ohm? Tim |
Frazeur - My 2000s are singing wonderfully. A recent power cord change to my amp is over-emphasizing some HF transients, especially on certain female voices, but the cord is still running in, and upgrading the plugs should fix it completely. I just need money! It's amazing how revealing the Ohms are of changes upstream. I've been listening more often and for as long as I can lately. |
Bond-great on the 2000's, and boy, I do not envy you with cord/cable changes, those are the kind of "upgrades" that typically would drive me mad! But yes, the Ohm's are very revealing of anything in the stream, but the good thing is, I also find them very easy, no matter what is there for the most part.
I am sadly missing my Ohm's very much. Health and financial issues have forced my hand and my entire system was sold over the last few months. At some point though down the road, I would like to be able to get another pair. I guess I have just gone through a major purging/simplification at this point. But I will be back. Tim |
Wishing you a speedy recovery, Tim. |
Hey guys good to see this thread alive and well .. it's been a while. In fact it's been so long that formerly I posted under Jmelvin. I had problems with my account during the transition and ended up creating a new account, hence the name change.
Since last posting on this thread, and that was back in '09 I think, my system has evolved .. new amp, DAC, and loudspeakers. What can I say? Love music. Love gear. My change from the MicroWalsh Talls was nothing more than a desire to hear a different flavor of loudspeaker. So after 7 years or so of ownership I decided to go back to a stand-mount, the Mark & Daniel Ruby, and was not disappointed. After having these for a while I wanted to taste a panel so I purchased the Magnepan MMG, and again I was not disappointed. I guess this is the start of a loudspeaker collection as I still own all 3 with no intentions of giving any of them up. I love each flavor!
So why am I posting? Yup, I recently put the Ohms back in the mix just to hear them again. I must say, I'm very happy I held on to them. These are such great speakers .. they do so much right. As you all know, the presentation is unlike any other. More people really need to hear an omni.
Cheers .. Happy New Year |
Wtf - Thanks for the update. I bet I am not the only one who would love to hear your impressions of the differences of the three speakers you own. If you have the time, that is.
I also love music and gear, but space and finances require me to keep my purchases well-spaced and sensible upgrades rare. I am on year three with my Ohms, which replaced my 9-year-old Vandersteen 1Cs. Anything can happen, but I would not be surprised if I am listening to the Ohms for the rest of my life. I really cannot find anything in them to complain about. Of course, since I frequent hi-fi shows and audio club meets, you never know when I will hear something that is both affordable and good enough to make me think I could improve on the Ohms.
I will say this: The only speaker other than the Ohms I would recommend in the ~$3K price range for tower speakers is one that is newer than my Ohms, and one I only heard last summer - The Golden Ear Triton. I have yet to hear anything else in this price range (which is my price range) that I could live with long term.
Being this happy with my Ohms allows me to focus on improvements elsewhere in the system. So far, the Ohms have clearly revealed the value, or lack thereof, of any changes to gear or wires I have made. Current focus is on cabling. |
Been reading this thread for a while now and thought I'd jump in and sorry if this gets long but I think it's a worthy read...After going "retro" a few years back and settling in with some pristine walnut Advents I've recently had the itch to acquire some new (used) speakers. I wasn't looking to replace the Advents per se' but had the itch to fool with something different.
Well, on my local CL a pristine set of Yamaha NS1000m's pops up and I've always been intrigued by these and the guy lives like 2 miles from me so I call and schedule a demo but came away unimpressed. I know it wasn't an ideal audition but I just couldn't get excited about them especially for $1000 so I passed.
About a week later a nice set of Ohm 3's show up on CL and this guy is literally walking distance from my house so I figure what the heck, even if for no other reason but to cross them off my list.
Now I remember Ohm's from Tech Hifi back in the 70's when I was cutting my teeth in this hobby and all I remember of them was the venerable Ohm F's. My cousin had a pair and I new they needed lot's of power and current, (but not too much!)and were somewhat difficult to place. But when everything was right they did things no other speaker could do.
Anyway, back to my audition...I hand the guy my CD of Steely Dans "Every Thing Must Go" album, he pops it into his low end CD player running through a mid-grade Denon AVR and... WOW!!! Crystal clear music was just flowing everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE! I was flabbergasted at hearing music portrayed in such a manner that I really wasn't sure how to react. So I kept my best poker face on and he and I just BS'd about god knows what but track after track I was smitten by not only what I was hearing but HOW I was hearing it. I was intentionally moving around his room while listening and the music just sounded good no matter where I stood.
Now I've had plenty of "different is not necessarily better" moments when auditioning audio equipment, but I knew these were something special and I bought them on the spot (which I rarely do) and here's where it gets kinda fun for me. I bring them home and the wife gives me that look, (you know the one) so I disconnect the Advents (which she's never really liked the dated look of) and popped the Ohm's in their place. I get em connected to my so so Onix 120MK2 amp and she's watching X Factor so I just ran that through the Ohm's and she is ecstatic! NEVER before has she ever thought ANY of the countless brands of speakers that have passed through our family room sounded better (or worse) than the previous speakers they replaced. She was going on and on about it and then it hit me, she sits quite a bit to the side of the sweet spot and with these Ohms it just doesn't matter, the sound is damn near the same no matter where you sit. She even likes the look of them which is always a plus but the real kicker is when she tells our friends how much she likes them.
Now the critical part for me is after having settled in with these for the last month or so I will say that there is the odd song that still sounds a bit better to me on the Advents, however for the majority of stuff I listen to the Ohm's are just right. But when you factor in the enjoyment of how they sound anywhere in the room or even while moving about it's simply a no brainer to me, these are ultimate keepers, consider me a convert! |
Welcome, Polarin! Glad to read about your recent acquisition of a pair of Walsh 3's! The Ohm Walsh sound is one that I instantly loved at first listen!
I'd like to share my thoughts on a recent upgrade to my Ohm Walsh 4's, that I purchased new back in 1985(and was still very happy with them).
After receiving the Columbus Day sale e-mail from John S., at Ohm, I decided to take the plunge and upgrade to the 4.5000's. I've only had the upgrade for about month, but I must say that the 4.5000 sound presentation is completely different to my original 4's!
At first listen I didn't like the presentation at all! There sound was so far off from what I was used to hearing. The low end is so much more prevalent, that I was overwhelmed by it! Also, the mid range is much more apparent now, than with my 4's.
I have been experimenting much with the various switch positions, and have found a combination that is fairly enjoyable. I am re-listening to many recordings, and finding a more complete overall presentation. I have also toed in the speakers about 20 degrees, and that seems to give a bit more centering to vocals. Although, I still find that there is a bit to much separation, mainly within the mid range male and female vocal frequencies, for my taste. But I am still working on those areas.
I am driving the speakers with a McIntosh Mc-352, and my normal listening levels range from -5dB to -15dB. The precision(and crispness) of say a kick or tom drum, or the snap of an electric bass guitar string, is what is most striking to me! The speed is fast and tight. There are passages within certain compositions, that I find the mid to upper mid range, to be too overwhelming for me. Which quite possibly could be the recording itself.
There are a couple of build issues I'm dealing with, but John S. has been very receptive in dealing with them thus far.
Overall, the more listening I do, the more pleased I become with this upgrade. |
Remember tbat the newer Walshes in particular are very transparent and many tweaks can be done to fine tune the sound, including ICs.
My experience was similar to buttecreekers when i first hooked up my walsh 2 series 3 ohms in place of original walsh 2s. Totally different sound and presentation overall. The difference was in no way subtle. |
Bondmanp .. just now finding the time to give my impressions of the 3 speakers. One reason I looked into other brands, besides curiosity, was my living situation changed and the room my stereo was going into was a bit larger. Nonetheless I used the MWTs for quite some time before finally making another purchase. In order to stay with Ohm's I would have had to step up to the Walsh 2000's to accommodate the room and at the time I simply couldn't spend the money. So I looked for something completely different and the Mark & Daniel Ruby caught my attention. I picked them up here on A'gon for less than half of the retail price. The Rubys are a 2-way stand-mount with an AMT tweeter. In comparison to the MWTs, the presentation is completely different .. much more forward and in-your-face. They do what monitors do really well. Although the Rubys have real body and presence, the soundstage isn't as wide as the MWT, but very good. These little monitors are fun, punchy, and go deeper than the MWT. The highs seems a bit more extended and a bit brighter without being fatiguing in the least and have wonderful coherence. The MWTs are a bit more laid back but certainly not dull in comparison. The MWTs present the scale of instruments much more realistically IMO and I'm sure I don't need to mention the wide sweet spot of the Ohms.
The MMGs came about because I had a little extra cash at the time and wanted to hear a panel, which I never had. Like many, I also think they are one of the great audio bargains. The MMGs and the MWTs share similar properties like scale of instruments, tone, and coherence. I love the sound of these little panels and they work better in my room than the others. I've thought about stepping up to the 1.7s when the time comes, but they are simply too big. Perhaps the 2000's will be next .. I do love the Ohm sound and I really want to hear the newer drivers. Unfortunately that won't be for quite a while due to a recent DAC purchase. I will also check out the Golden Ear Tritons you mentioned.
other gear:
Mac Mini 2010
Chordette QuteHD DSD DAC
SOtM dX-USB HD usb to s/pdif converter & mBPS-d2s battery ps
Odyssey Audio Cyclops Extreme/SE Integrated (w/ps upgrade) |
My "problem" with my Walsh 3's is that I'm happy with how they sound now, so I have no real desire to upgrade to the newer offerings. I thought I read in a previous post that the 3's had rubber (or treated cloth) surrounds so they don't need refoaming like the 4's and even 5's did. Anyway I'm not hearing anything unusual from them so I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it. |
I own the OHM 3000, the only minor complaint I have is the soft dome tweeter is not as extended as a good ribbon tweeter. So I have on order, a add-on supertweeter which will sit on top of the speakers. The new Mark & Daniel Omni Harmonizer AMT supertweeter should arrive within the next two weeks. Can't wait! |
Like wtf, I also keep MMGs to rotate with my Ohm 100s (w/ a pair of Rythmik subs, in both cases). Additionally, I have two very high quality full-range speakers available for spot duty. Any of these set-ups will produce -IMHO- outstanding results, however, the Ohms still see 90+% of the active duty. |
Since acquiring my Rubys, I've wondered about the Omni Harmonizer. I'd love to hear your impressions after you've had a chance to evaluate. I wouldn't have thought to mate it with Ohms. |
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Since acquiring my Rubys, I've wondered about the Omni Harmonizer. I'd love to hear your impressions after you've had a chance to evaluate. I wouldn't have thought to mate it with Ohms. +1 |
This weekend, i experimented with the ohm 100 series 3 speakers back in the sun room, which i have not tried in quite awhile in that in the past, the bass was always just too heavy in there.
What a nice surprise this time that they are sounding spot on! The only difference is this time they
are each sitting on a one foot square ceramic tile acting as a plinth under the bass ports in the bottom. They sit on a thick wool oriental rug on a tile floor, that i have always had trouble with acoustically. Its a keeper
now! I can see why all newer 1000 series models have the plinth on the bottom. IT helps avoid too much interaction between bass port and floor/room acoustics.
Triangle titus are back in the larger family room where the 100s were prior on my second system. Set up nicely on stands (for the first time ever in that room) and no sub this time. The m&k needs to be rebuilt, a project for another day.
The triangles too sound quite glorious, a natural mate with the warmer electronics in that system. I think i can live without a sub there for a while with no problem. The 100s sounded the warmest I have ever heard OHM Walshes sound in my second system, with the NAD pre-amp, TAD Hibachi monoblocks,and mhdt Paradisea tube DAC. The Triangles are more efficient and tend more towards the cold/analytic side and benefit nicely from warmer gear upstream, including a tube or two.
As it stands, i may just donate my ohm Ls that i custom rebuilt myself a
while back to my sister. They will work well for her i think. These are in
my
unfinished area and do not get used often, only on occasion while playing
table tennis. I can easily pick up something inexpensive to replace those
eventually just to try something different. |
