Has it been established that it’s an RFI/EMI issue? Just curious. By whom?
New Omega E Mat from Perfect Path Technologies
Many of you own or have read of the highly-regarded PPT Omega E Mat, one of Tim Mrock’s revolutionary signal-enhancing accessories. Just prior to his untimely passing, Tim had finished developing a new generation of his Omega mat, soon to be available. Krissy Mrock has asked a few of us to introduce this new mat, here given the working title of The Double Omega.
In distinguishing the Double Omega, we know the original Omega, herein called the single, as a 7.5” by 10”, rather heavy and somewhat pliable mat, a bit more than 1/8” thick and with a vinyl-like feel. One face is glossy white, displaying the PPT logo and Omega name, while the other is black, smooth and magnetized. Sandwiched between these faces is the active material that causes components to reject the EMI that saturates everything in our surroundings. The Double Omega is much the same, with one important difference: the magnetized face has the finely-textured feel of around, say, 220-grit sandpaper. This texture, it is presumed, comprises yet a second active layer of EMI rejection. Presumed—because working details of the Double Omega are not well understood—better yet to know how to apply it.
With the understanding that the single Omega E mats generate field effects from both faces, mats have typically been placed under and over components and vertically over circuit breakers. How you apply the Double Omega will depend on best use and experimentation. In my case, I have removed two single mats, lying side-by-side, from the top of my large Wadia CDP and have replaced those with two Double Omegas. The Wadia is a one-box player that contains a pre-amp, so I wanted that second, strong field effect exerting downward as well as upward. I also have several singles placed underneath, just as before. Going straight to amps, this player is my only source, so I want it fully protected from EMI. Your priorities will differ.
As of this writing, I am only thirty-hours in on placing these Double Omegas, and I can already tell you they are powerful in their prevention of EMI within my digital source. Yet another veil has been lifted—all instruments and voices are even more sorted out in the aural space with new information heard within that space. There is much more decay heard against a new silence behind and between the musicians. I am already so pleased and excited about what the Double Omega E mats are doing. As Krissy told me, Tim was really stoked to have these new mats available. Rather than wait for the the fourteen-day window of improvement, I want to get this intro out so others can relay their experiences sooner.
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geoffkait, For over a year, I have been concerned about the medical ill effects of environmental RFI/EMI. I bought the esi24 meter from lessEMF.com, which measures environmental low freq electrical, magnetic, and RF. I found that I get better sleep in low RF rooms vs high RF rooms. About 5% of the general population is affected clinically by high RF, but on a subliminal level, there are ill effects on cellular function, which impact risks of all diseases. Someone would have to measure RF in electrical wiring of outlets and components to see if these PPT products can be measured. Meanwhile, some people here have noted that the PPT makes the sound uniformly wonderful at all times of the day/night. Without power conditioning advices, many of us have noted marked variations according to time of day. It is often still unpredictable, depending on what's going on locally. We are guessing that the sound quality varies according to levels of RFI, but it would be nice to verify with electrical RFI measurements. |
slaw, I must say that I did try to reintroduce the Bybee’s recently since your post on that subject. I found that the soundstage became more congested and flatter. Then after removing the Bybee’s and just using the Omega mats everything returned to a more calmer, deeper and much more enjoyable soundstage. So, yeah, I do not think the Bybee’s work well with the Omega matts. I also found previously that the MC-.05’s also did not complement the matts. IMHO. BTW, I am still pondering whether to add 2 more regular Omega matts to the 2 already in my breaker box or to try the newer E mat+ albeit at twice the price. ozzy |
I am on my third day after adding 6 more Stop-its to existing 7, and 2 Emat + to 6 existing Emats and PPT treated system. Hard to believe the improvement across the board. I have listened to " Kind of Blue" many times, one of my favorites! Today I finally HEARD it. Back to Bill Evans. Thank you Tim and Krissy. |
I added two Omega+ mats on the outside of my power panel last night. This was in addition to two original Omegas already there. I am hearing, and really enjoying, the benefits tonight. I simply added the +s, and did not try to do a controlled comparison between them and the originals. I do feel that the +s offer substantial improvement over the originals (good as they are), though. |
tommylion ... Same here, tommylion. I was just listening to some of Arthur Lyman’s exotica music. Good grief! Simply amazing. Lovin’ the new "Plus" E-Mats. The real deal. And by the way ... they are going to continue to improve over the next week or so. Frank |
Listening to day twelve of two Omega+ mats on top of CP player, but I did not listen to my system on days 8 through 11. The music gets better by the day, and those of you who know this can imagine what a four-day layoff brings. Everything I put on sounds like a newly-issued remaster--some songs are so changed in character, they almost sound like different versions. You know, when you listen for familiar "landmarks" that stand out in the soundscape---they are now overtaken by a richness of low and midrange overtones, newly blossomed out of what seemed like a formerly stark presentation. And there are newly-distinct solo instruments that jump out of the margins of the soundstage. And I'm listening to Arthur Lyman, "Taboo 2", a mix from his many records from the 50's and 60's that popularized the Polynesian sound, full of exotic percussion, bird cries and vibes. Look up his bio and three-dimensional recording techniques, achieved naturally--his music was featured in stereo demonstrations of the day. I just received a veritable library of CDs in the mail today from Frank, who recorded and catalogued them for me from his collection. Thank you, Frank, for this historic collection of music! |
OK, the 2 Emat + I ordered arrived today, as well as some Total Contact and Krissy sent some Alpha E cards to try. I placed one Emat + in the main panel and the other in the sub panel feeding my music area. The TC I will use to coat the inside of my power conditioner. Those of you with experience, where would you suggest I place the Alpha E cards? Thanks in advance. BTW, I took the 2 MC-.5 helixes out of the circuit based upon the experiences shared here. |
I have Alpha-Cards on/in: 1. Between the back of the Android phone and the phone case. 2. On top of, and on the sides of, the turntable motor. 3. On the sides of the CD player. (the magnetic cards) 4. On speaker cables and ICs and PCs. 5. On the sides of the power conditioner. 6. Between the outlet receptacles and the wall. 7. On top of, and on the sides of the desktop PC. 8. On the sides of the DVD player on the TV system. 9. On the sides of the satellite box and the DVR for the TV. 10. On top of the secondary circuit breaker box in the bedroom. Look at them as if they are small Omega E-Mats. Put them where a full-size mat won't fit. Each card is about 10% as powerful as a full-size mat. Frank |
jafreeman, You said this about day 12 of the + mat, "they are now overtaken by a richness of low and midrange overtones, newly blossomed out of what seemed like a formerly stark presentation." I am interested in a crisp, detailed sound which is natural and coherent, the way the real thing is. This quote suggests that you now have a rounded, euphonic sound, the opposite of what I am seeking. Are the highs now subdued in favor of more low and midrange freq? |
jafreeman ... Glad you're enjoying the recordings. I listened to that Arthur Lyman CD last night for the first time since installing the two Omega "Plus" mats into the circuit breaker box. It was like hearing it for the first time. The percussion instruments were right there. Unbelievably good. Frank |
viber6 ... Nothing is rounded off. All of the detail remains in place, plus more. There is a more relaxed presentation to the music and a richer tone quality. The three-dimensional image is much improved. You can see more into the performance, which will have more separation between musicians and vocalists. Now, this may sound like the description of euphonic tubes doing their thing, but it is not. It is more like the rich organic sound of real musical instruments playing for you instead of a thinner HiFi artificial plastic sound that was there before. Everything just sounds more real. Once you have the E-Mats in place, leave them there. They improve with a little time on them. Frank |
A friend lent me 3 of the original E Matt's over 6 weeks ago. Placed 2 on my electrical box and another under CD player. I "think" I hear small improvements but not night and day as many seem to say. I'd probably buy if used ones show up on the market but either everyone keeps them or are returned for a refund for I've yet to see any for sale. |
rsf507 ... Just out of curiosity, do you by any chance have any noise reduction devices in your system that uses magnets? Frank |
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Some members have reported in this thread that some plug-in devices containing magnets reduce the effectiveness of the mats.How is it possible for magnets to effect the working of the mats? The back of the mats are already magnets, and Tim (if I remember correctly), said the magnetic backing has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the mats. Just curious. |
jetter ... Quite honestly, I have no idea. I'm just relating what others have said. I don't use any plug-in devices myself. Frank |
Hey Joe, the oldest painted panel is a decade old. Over the years we painted the panels of several store fronts, homes; heck, :) he even set up at a hobby convention. lol. Go green and save green! LOL. He was the ultimate salesman, my love. There are a few people here on Audiogon who were the very first to try --- if you PM me, I'll let you know who they are. Love, Krissy |
Actually, my stereo sounded quite good, now it sounds better, no joking. And I was the biggest naysayer of them all if you go way back to the TC thread. And I don’t mean skeptical, I mean I was a jerk about it, speaking from a position of ignorance since I never tried any product. If you put the mats on your breaker box, it somehow ’cleans’ up the power, like a whole house conditioner. I’m not touting earth shattering for me personally, but a definite and undeniably positive effect, on my tv picture also. I definitively understand the skepticism, but the PPT products really do work, and they come with a 90 day return policy. |
uberwaltz, Descriptions in this thread went over what I usually see in cable and fuse threads. They did seem like people were competing in who will say nicer things with not many, if any, doubting it. Hardly a case in those other threads. My fault is that I read only recent responses without full original post which clearly states it is an advertising attempt. Pure advertising at its finest, sorry but have to call it as I see it. Bonus points for honesty. |
glupson ... Okay, admittedly some of my posts, perhaps many, would seem to have been over the top to the uninitiated. I understand that. No big deal for me. I just got off the phone with another A’goner who has the whole PPT kibosh ... The Gate, TC, Mats, Stop-Its, etc. We were discussing the effects that the new Omega *Plus* mats have, and the benefits they bring to the system over the original Omega mats. We both agreed on the same things. The Omega *Plus* mats bring a fuller, more organic sound to the instruments. It is hard to describe, because one wants to use terms like tubes vs solid-state, digital vs vinyl, but that really isn’t it either. Everything seems fuller in the presentation and a lot more natural, like you’re listening to instruments that are real. I’m including vocals in this too. I want to say that its a "warmer" sound, but that’s not it. That suggests a coloration .. and these mats do not color the sound. Even though there’s more detail and everything is faster, there is no longer a thought about those HiFi terms. I’ve said it before, with the use of these products, and then with the addition of the new mats, it really is like a real musical performance unfolding before you. The clarity is amazing. It is truly surprising how much grunge we have been feeding our electronics through dirty AC lines. You don’t know it is there until it is gone. With a 90-day return policy, what do you have to lose? Give it a try. Frank PS: This is not an ad. :-) |
As I have said many times in the past I find it hard to truly describe the effects but have settled on just one description. It's just " more" . More of everything that was very good to begin with. My CD player is now sulking in the corner though as analog playback is just so pleasurable right now I am flipping albums or tapes all day/ night long. Oh listening sessions can be HOURS long as there is just no grain or etch or hardness to fatigue me. Just old age and falling asleep causes game over nowadays.... |
It would seem to me in order to process any ’new tweak’... one would have to remove any old ones first... so as to get a real idea of what is happening in one’s system... without any other past tweak influence spoiling the testing results. Having in system a continuous barrage of tweaks would skew the new individual tweaks merits...Especially for money spent! |
I have an open mind, but what technical evidence does anyone have that the mats reduce RFI? OK, the music sounds better to some users, but exactly what distortion is being reduced? Perhaps geoffkait can try to measure these things. With no technical information available, this is all speculation. Maybe Krissy has some test data that Tim did. |