We are fortunate to live in countries that allow us to pursue financial success. I believe most of us on here has attained that to a degree that we are living relatively comfortably.
The Russian military is beginning to utilize all the massive firepower at its disposal. Since their offensive has bogged down, they are changing tactics. Their new tactic is to surround a city and shell it indiscriminately, inflicting as much human misery as possible. A rocket, missile and artillery shell doesn’t care if you are a soldier, old woman, or an infant. Neither does Putin.
When they unleash it like they did in Syria, it will be a humanitarian catastrophe not seen since the Second World War. Death and destruction on a massive scale.
Please, consider giving to a charitable organization to help.
We have so much. Give some of it to whom it will literally make a difference between living and dying. You will be saving a life. A life of someone loved. Just as you love.
unitedhelpukraine.org
This is the charity I used, but there are several more of your choice. International Red Cross, Save the Children, CARE, to name a few.
Please don't jump to conclusions about me and the Iraq war. You are reading things into my response which I didn't say and are actually 180 degrees from reality. But those decisions made 19 years ago are not relevant to this thread.
As I alluded to in my previous post, this thread is to support the people of Ukraine through a fundraising campaign the OP initiated and Audiogon graciously allowed.
Today, world leaders are dealing with an unhinged nuclear superpower invading a neighboring sovereign country.
You are regurgitating rank propaganda. And, by your response, I can only assume that you were equally eager to support the disastrous Iraq war.
Try to access some alternative sources of information, as you are falling prey to perhaps the most widespread, coordinated propaganda campaign ever waged.
This isn't the appropriate thread to discuss that.
Today, world leaders are dealing with an unhinged nuclear superpower invading a neighboring sovereign country. The situation is too fluid to second guess anything right now but when the west reaches a general consensus at the velocity they have over the past several days, that means they have put aside the grandstanding and rolled up their sleeves.
Please consider donating to the any number of funds available to aid Ukraine during this time of need.
Please, our president deserves our support. When it comes to international events, we should be united.
Seriously? You believe that American citizens should mindlessly support the policies of their President? Did you advocate that approach prior to the 2003 Iraq war?
Amazing that you have the time to spare to even post, considering you are fighting those menacing windmills Mr. Quixote. Are you going to donate or pound sand? Otherwise, you are enlisting no one to your lonely cause and there are people walking on your lawn at this very moment.
Why does someone always bring up Trump when criticism is levelled against Biden? Judge our current president on his merits or lack thereof. No fan of Trump, but holy cow.
The hollowest of arguments if there ever was one.
Transparent too.
@thecarpathian, Thank you for this thread and for posting donation sites, as did others. Accordingly, I just finished donating a "Tithe", based upon the value of my audio gear.
thecarpathian - thank you for starting this thread. I did contribute to one of the Ukranian charities you posted. Millions of people are suffering and my heart breaks for them. Contributing $ is the least I can do.
Why does someone always bring up Trump when criticism is levelled against Biden? Judge our current president on his merits or lack thereof. No fan of Trump, but holy cow.
@ghasley Hmmm, less than 100 posts proves I'n not a bot all my posts are about music & equiptment not politics.
1) Your Projection & deflection reminds me of a book I read Rules for Radicals Saul Alinsky.
My gut is never wrong, I see you have an agenda here. We all see it, since the Moderator decided my post was inappropriate to remove it, they showed me this is another DS site. Everything in my post was accurate 100% that was the problem not what was said but content.
@ghasley, you are so polite!. I am not. Unless the Keystone Pipeline and other sources are opened and we supply oil to Europe to cover the deficit, Russia will not suffer to the extent it should. You should not punish people who continue to use fossil fuels. You make electricity cheap and people will move themselves to electric cars an home heating. This can be readily done in a very clean way with Molten Sodium Reactors. All the technology to succeed in ending the petroleum era is in place. What is keeping our government from proceeding with the one and only viable option open to us? If people think we are going to make enough power with solar cells and wind mills they are totally and completely miss-informed.
@aseaman007since by your own admission you might have joined the wrong audio website is there any chance you might go elsewhere? You have less than 100 posts so your investment here is minimal.
I’m not a dem/rep I just support causes where truth matters….where kindness exists…like subsidized mental health assistance for those in dire need…paranoia and conspiracies combine to create a really dark place for many. Dont be afraid to seek assistance…dont be too proud, it might help. In the event you are a bot, this isnt a fertile field for your brand of dishonesty.
I had an Uber driver tell me last week that the US and Putin planned this war together. I feel sad when people think and talk like this. It's a dangerous path that no country wants to go down.
@mijostynPlease, our president deserves our support. When it comes to international events, we should be united. I will admit I had my doubts about how efective our leadership was going to address this situation but the back channel conversations must have been pretty effective to unite Europe as well as convince Switzerland. It will be economically painful for Russia/Belarus for a long time.
@serjio@aseaman007Zelensky is Jewish and I would venture an opinion he is not a neo nazi. Unlike in Russia, a Ukrainian election resulted in his ascension. The Russia/Belarus model is not going to be a long term enjoyable place in which to exist. Now run along. Many here donated, many more will…you guys who think this invasion has any validity should not visit the thread.
I used to have doubts - now they are gone ... there are several people "feeding this branch" - THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH ... They are trying to manipulate public opinion.
Somehow they have influence on the moderator - he deletes the best posts (bias)
Putin wont use nukes and his capture of the large nuclear power plant was a strategic move. Too late indeed and the West misses another chance to do something worthwhile for a change. We are, if nothing else, predictable and easily bluffed. U.S. response was laughable.
The Ukranians are in a very unfortunate position. If they west escalates to direct military action Putin is crazy enough to launch a nuk. Our military could roll over the Russians in a heartbeat but the choice is letting the Russians have Ukraine or Nuclear war the choice is obvious. We lost the opportunity to prevent this now the finale is written in stone. The best we can do is support the refugees and integrate them into other western societies.
Wow. So, did you donate to Ukraine? If not, you should keep moving to another thread. Trying to paint the situation there in the way you are attempting is horrible. Either you dont know what you are talking about, you are a reasonable person but have bad data or you are part of the problem. I’ve never met a neo-nazi Jew nor have you nor has Putin.
@serjiothis a thread the OP created to support Ukraine. Donate or don’t but if you happen to side with Putin then this isnt the thread for you wouldnt you agree?
@cowan217if the thread disturbs you so, consider another?
ya know, I really don't need more frigging political posts and BS now starting in one of my last spaces of personal enjoyment, reading on this forum. Take your post to anywhere else you feel compelled too. Christ.
Another sad chapter in the worlds history. Lets hope the bloodshed and destruction ends very soon and without the Ukrainian people being forced to live in a constant state of fear and without the basic rights of a free people.
I must confess that I seldom feel enthusiastic to donate to charitable causes because there are too many stories that arouse suspicions over where the money actually goes. In this case, I think the risk here is well worth it so I hav donated. Thank you for creating this post and give it me the impetus to do so. It is heart warming to see that we too at Audiogon can have a voice that will help and make a difference. What else can we do, boycott Russian made tubes? What about Switzerland? They claim neutrality which is nice code for they continue to collect money in exchange for providing safe refuge to Russian Oligarchs and their bank accounts. Maybe its time to boycott Solution etc. ?
ashamed of what? - for the fact that I am for world peace? - no, not ashamed...
and yes - I periodically feed the homeless and do not ask for anything for it ...
I'm probably preventing you from doing dark things ... I'm glad!
But you God see the trouble of the afflicted; you consider their grief and take it in hand,. The victims commit themselves to you; you are the helper of the fatherless. Pslams 10:14
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