Music Lovers! Unite in helping Ukraine!
We are fortunate to live in countries that allow us to pursue financial success. I believe most of us on here has attained that to a degree that we are living relatively comfortably.
The Russian military is beginning to utilize all the massive firepower at its disposal. Since their offensive has bogged down, they are changing tactics. Their new tactic is to surround a city and shell it indiscriminately, inflicting as much human misery as possible. A rocket, missile and artillery shell doesn’t care if you are a soldier, old woman, or an infant. Neither does Putin.
When they unleash it like they did in Syria, it will be a humanitarian catastrophe not seen since the Second World War. Death and destruction on a massive scale.
Please, consider giving to a charitable organization to help.
We have so much. Give some of it to whom it will literally make a difference between living and dying. You will be saving a life. A life of someone loved. Just as you love.
unitedhelpukraine.org
This is the charity I used, but there are several more of your choice. International Red Cross, Save the Children, CARE, to name a few.
Please, let’s all do what we can to help.
Showing 29 responses by ghasley
@builder3 well said |
@nonoise absolutely not directed at you. I was merely supporting the message that we shouldnt be snarking at one another. Ukraine deserves our support without the general catfighting usually reserved for cables and fuses. You and I tend to come down on the same side of issues….you were not the intended recipient of my support of builder’s generic call to stop the snark.
@moffer its always right to support right and truth, regardless of the adversary or the predictable outcome. Russia can certainly defeat Ukraine on the battlefield but the international community can make it so expensive for Russia that they might rethink the action.
@jond +1
@fertguy -1. |
@sgreg1 which post? |
@serjio Huh??? |
@serjio I respectfully disagree with your justification for Russia/Putin to invade Ukraine. History will show that you may not have your facts straight. You are on the wrong side of history on this one. I wish you well and further wish you an open mind. Have you donated to help the Ukrainian people yet? |
How do say “OK Karen” in Russian?
Its apparent that one of us has been drinking the wrong coolaid. Thats unfortunate that we cant agree on facts vs propaganda. The entire free world just watched a little dude with a big complex start an ill conceived and illegal invasion of a neighboring country. You and I wont agree…in fact, few will agree with your view. |
@serjio have you no shame? Pick another thread to shyt on. |
Wow. So, did you donate to Ukraine? If not, you should keep moving to another thread. Trying to paint the situation there in the way you are attempting is horrible. Either you dont know what you are talking about, you are a reasonable person but have bad data or you are part of the problem. I’ve never met a neo-nazi Jew nor have you nor has Putin. |
@mijostyn and make it econimcally painful for Russia forever. |
@serjio @aseaman007 Zelensky is Jewish and I would venture an opinion he is not a neo nazi. Unlike in Russia, a Ukrainian election resulted in his ascension. The Russia/Belarus model is not going to be a long term enjoyable place in which to exist. Now run along. Many here donated, many more will…you guys who think this invasion has any validity should not visit the thread. |
@mijostyn Please, our president deserves our support. When it comes to international events, we should be united. I will admit I had my doubts about how efective our leadership was going to address this situation but the back channel conversations must have been pretty effective to unite Europe as well as convince Switzerland. It will be economically painful for Russia/Belarus for a long time. |
@aseaman007 If you had read the contents of this thread, it was created with permission for the sole purpose of raising money for Ukraine. |
@aseaman007 since by your own admission you might have joined the wrong audio website is there any chance you might go elsewhere? You have less than 100 posts so your investment here is minimal.
I’m not a dem/rep I just support causes where truth matters….where kindness exists…like subsidized mental health assistance for those in dire need…paranoia and conspiracies combine to create a really dark place for many. Dont be afraid to seek assistance…dont be too proud, it might help. In the event you are a bot, this isnt a fertile field for your brand of dishonesty. |
I have no agenda other than to assist the Ukrainian fundraising effort, which was the purpose of this thread and Audiogon was kind enough to allow it.
We will take you at your word.
To everyone else, please consider donating to the charity of your choice that assists Ukraine with its fight for survival. |
This isn't the appropriate thread to discuss that.
Today, world leaders are dealing with an unhinged nuclear superpower invading a neighboring sovereign country. The situation is too fluid to second guess anything right now but when the west reaches a general consensus at the velocity they have over the past several days, that means they have put aside the grandstanding and rolled up their sleeves.
Please consider donating to the any number of funds available to aid Ukraine during this time of need. |
Please don't jump to conclusions about me and the Iraq war. You are reading things into my response which I didn't say and are actually 180 degrees from reality. But those decisions made 19 years ago are not relevant to this thread.
As I alluded to in my previous post, this thread is to support the people of Ukraine through a fundraising campaign the OP initiated and Audiogon graciously allowed.
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I would never suggest anyone should do anything slavishly or remarkably dangerous. You seem to be itching for conflict...I'm not that guy nor or my positions deserving of same. A madman has invaded a neighbor, millions will be displaced, many will lose their lives or homes...lets help them to safety, keep them warm, feed and clothe them. Thats all...
If you want to debate Viet Nam, the Korean conflict, Iraq, Afghanistan, Beiruit, colonial atrocities, the Gulf of Tonkin....wrong forum, wrong thread, wrong guy. |
That’s unfair to imply any ulterior motivation to anyone who has chosen to donate.
In addition, you dont believe 99% of Audiogon members could find Ukraine on a map? I respectfully disagree. With the exception of yourself, I happen to believe this forum is populated with broadly intelligent and generally knowledgable and kind individuals. Your stock continues to fall with each post...much like the value of Russian commercial paper and equities.
You sir, are on the wrong side of this subject politically, morally and historically. |
Its truly unfortunate that some hop onto a thread and “contribute” with the sole intent to drive the thread into the ground, hoping beyond hoping to get the thread deleted. I do agree that moderating can be difficult although it doesnt have to be…moderating from the slippery slope is tough vs moderating from the high ground. I appreciate the effort and respect the decisions.
Once again, I appreciate that Audiogon allowed this thread and the fundraising effort to SUPPORT THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE. They are being illegally displaced, murdered and the human rights violations are stacking up and we arent even two weeks into this. I hope you will continue to give to the charity of your choice to support these people.
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I might also begin buying Russian bonds and donte them to Ukrainian causes. That would be an amusing hedge…if they remain at rock bottom valuations then no big deal. If they gain in value so does the power of the donation. It would warm my heart for a Russian debt to be repaid to the Ukrainian people. |
I’ve posted no propaganda and I’m collecting nothing, only donating to the cause. This thread was initiated for the sole purpose to collect donations for the Ukrainian people, to ease their suffering. Full stop.
If a few Russian audiophiles want to start a thread in support of invading another country, then by all means do so. I promise I won’t post on it. Until then, please refrain from polluting a noble thread with a noble purpose. |
Is Ritter the guy who spent time in jail for unlawful contact with children? At least his Russian wife might have a problem with that type of behavior? I’m also pretty sure he didnt write in broken English.
Seriously, what do the apologists for the Russian cause hope to accomplish in a thread created for and dedicated to the plight of the Ukrainian people? Are they here to slow down the giving or to enlist others to their cause, neither of which is likely. |
@thecarpathian thank you for starting the thread and for the compassion that moved you to do so.
Tammy, you are the best, many thanks to you… |