Mitigating the Bubble


Today after many years of trials and tribulations I have mitigated a sonic aberration a horizontal phase anomaly in my center stage.  While the center image was always stable and outlined it seemed narrow and bubble like and I would need to shift my body angle to really lock in the image. This was obvious on many CDs and LPs .

I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations. I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep's wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses.  I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage. I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the  boundaries with in my room by reducing interference. I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover. This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s.  ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little  bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.

So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end. The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system.  Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone.  Off came the straight jacket and helmet. What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage. 

I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product  Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency. 

Tom 

 

theaudiotweak

@glory: I've enjoyed your posts for years and you seem to be a stand up guy. I appreciate you sharing your bad experience with us. I agree that the Nanoflo product (goop) is outstanding, and I've applied it to most of my cabling. We can only hope that  now this technology is out there, someone more reputable will start producing it at a fair and reasonable price. Good listening, Jeff

@nano-flo 

Glory can sell his cables when he gets them back next week. 

You are off to a great start, a very public spat with what has to be one of the few who actually paid for your cable on offer and your cavalier and flippant attitude toward a paying customer is….unsurprising to many. This is a very small, very niche market and even on the outside chance more of your cables are sold, you are allowing the damage to be done. To many, that’s actually good news…that you are choosing to shoot yourself in the foot rather than to do the right thing and refund a returned “product”. Maybe you should have just jumped straight to the NFT trading card business…maybe NFT cables are next up in your business plan?

Sooo… Nano-flo describes the flow of “owed money” out of the account?

@nano-flo 

@mikeg

@theaudiotweak 

I brought up in the now deleted thread that about the magical power cable review that Chris/nano-flo had no track record in hifi, had questionable dealings with others and that extreme caution should be taken. @glory if you ever get your money back you will be lucky. 

 

I said it then and I’ll say it now…you guys should be ashamed. @mikeg your Stereo Times review and Most Wanted Product rating now acts as a defacto endorsement of a potentially unethical enterprise. While Im sur that isnt your intent, leaving that review up erodes your credibility. How unfortunate.

magic sauce.

snake oil

try reds cure all lineament, just 2 sips a day, you will be vigil, and feel better than you ever  have.

some of this stuff is plain silly, and the people who open their wallets for thousands for vaseline mixed w a little food coloring applied to a wall plug.

same as the 500 dollar power cord, its called hype truth, you imagine the 500 bills you dropped on a power cord will actually make trumpets circle your ears with magical ability to render you motionless, and add 2 more inches to mr. happy.

 

from your  (80% homes) breaker box, you have 12ga wiring throughout your home, thousands of feet running upstairs, down, all over, yet a 10awg cord will suddenly transform your shotty house wiring into a magic conduit from which unicorns shoot rainbow chocolate kaka rings through your body, giving you such elation that you spent 5oo$ on a power cord, which oddly enough might give you rapture of the eardrums and make mr chub come out to play.

 

 

:)

What is happening? This is so sad. Unfortunate too. One perfect example why many things in audio get such a bad reputation, and the “snake oil” moniker. Very sad.

 

Nano Flo dude: please give the guy the money back. He already returned your stuff. You have them. Not only the fair thing to do, but also the legal thing to do

1572 post I have

On audiogon for 20 years

enough positive feedback to make one drunk and no negative feedback

 

I bought 3 AC cables but you told me there was a glitch in the system and was charged for 5. You shipped 3 out to me and told me you would hold 2 at the discount price if I wanted to get the other two and if I didn’t want them after I got them I could return them.

Here is my positive review of your goop.I want you to be successful in your product and selling to us Philes. Your goop is the greatest breakthrough in audio. Nothing comes close to what it does when installed into one’s system. No words to describe what one hears when using with just AC cables.

 

I told you I needed to sell my Hemingway cables to finance the other two cables, and that I couldn’t do so I returned them. Did what you told me to go through eBay sent them back, and I patiently waited for the refund.

 

I asked you not to make this a mess and to pursue in a peaceful way, the transaction, and that I would give you a positive review on Audiogon.

 

 

 

I have here given you a negative feedback, but send my refund today and I will contact the monitors of audiogon and ask them to remove all my writings on this thread. You deserve better. Your product is out of this world. I just hope that your character and your integrity matches the awesomeness of your goop.

Chris, I haven’t known you for four months rather about three weeks you have me confused with someone else I did ask you if I could buy some of your goop one time and didn’t proceed to ask again. Please send me my refund.

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Nano

 

i kept  3 and my praise of your goop has nothing to do with the two I returned.

shall I copy and paste you writings that after your vacation you will proceed with the refund?

 

You told me to go through EBay and that I did and you’ve had the cables for two weeks.

 

Anger in the right situation is called for at times and this is one of them. You have over $3K of my $$$ so return it. Anger management for someone ripping you off over $3K? The management would be refund my $$$ today and I will be healed. 

 

I contacted you 3x peacefully and you ignored me. Now you come out from under your bed to respond when we could have done this privately off line.

 

what else do I have to do to get my refund?

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From glory (Gary) 11-21-22 verbatim

75 hours on the cables

From Gary

at 48 they became relaxed and smoother but at 75 they exploded with mind boggling sounds of texture and tonality. I’ve never heard a cable do the opening and revealing of the information on a audio file like this. 
 
It has surpassed the Hemingway beta AC cable. 
 

where is it going when we reach 200 hours of playing time, this remains to be heard. Has anyone heard this masterpiece of cabling with over 200 hours of breakin?

Nano- Flo

 

”Maybe I'll see you at AXPONA, but a quick history. Gemologist, Jeweler, and gem cutter of fine opal, tourmaline & sapphire. Now pretty much a cranky Old Man that expects agreements to be honored, and not open to playing "negotiation" games. 

 

Well then send my refund on your 30 day $$$ back within 30 days!

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Cables are in route to Chris and he changes the wording on his EBay ad to one return per family that was never there before when I bought from him on EBay. Cleaver little bugger.

 

Being raised and having grown up in NY we tend to be outspoken and upfront. Hiding under your bed,Chris, really ticks us Yorker off. Would rather a “F you Glory I am broke and I will pay you off in a few weeks or months but you will be refunded”, would work just fine for us.

 

Nano-Flo dude wake up and report back to me and answer your blinking phone or return my text messages.

Nano- Flo Chris has two AC cables returned by me through an EBay buy and has had them for almost two weeks with no refund nor response to calls or text messages. Retuned with in 10 days of the 30 allotted. Ebay policy is 3 days for a refund 🙈

 

Reading closer to his return policy it’s one return per family 😳🙄.

 

Ok send back the $$$ for one and return the 2nd. As of now I don’t trust him to send back the AC cable with his Magic goop on the ends. He accused me of wiping off the goop on the returned cables, not true. 

 

Buyer  beware,  this guy is not an upright person to do business with. I kept 3 of the 5. When buying from him you’re getting a $25.00 AC cable with magic goop on the connectors but who knows if he applies it or not. Does the magic goop work? Yep but it’s in the hands of a guy who can become another Rick Schulz.

 

No refund Glory

 

 

Hello  Orthomead,

I have no hesitation on applying Nano Flo on every conductive surface. I have treated the internals of my 2 amps, preamp, CD and dac.a portion of the speaker voice coil.I have enough left over to do future components and a brainstorm that may wake me up from a deep sleep. I will treat my daughter's bass rig I bought today after I hear it a few times. Should be interesting treating the pickups on her bass and all around. The nano materials of this product are smaller than any other similar product. Will penetrate the remanates of any previous..All good for me. Tom

 

@theaudiotweak  Tom, I still have some nanoflo left over from when Krissy was able to distribute it.  Are you still happy with the improvements.  I was given pause when I learned this application cannot be removed, although I guess the same was true of Total Contact.  Krissy tells me that with an alcohol pad, one could remove the gray vehicle, but the effect was permanent.  I did treat parts of my system and was pleased.  Just got some Nordost Valhalla 2 interconnects and didn't want to take an expensive leap if things have changed with time in your experience.  Thanks.

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Now read this...


http://v2.stereotimes.com/post/nanoflo-superconductor-holographic-3d6-ac-cord-by-mike-girardi/

I am very happy to see not 1 but 2 reviews in the same online magazine.

I wish Chris much luck and success in bringing his technology to the fore front of nano technology.

Tom

 

I also treated all the tops of capacitors all the IC's tops and any transistor I could see to reach . I am convinced Nano Flo has a tunneling effect because of the improvement I heard soon after application on traditional non conductive portions of  materials..Tom

Since my previous post about the Graphene Contact Enhancer from Mad Scientist Audio ($79/10ml!) I started with just one coax cable. The improvement was immediate, so over the next couple days I treated all my contacts, including one fuse that I had access to. Fast forward to my cars brake light. Over the years I have had to replace the right side bulb about every 6 months. I spoke with my Saab mechanic yesterday who replaced it about 9 months ago, as it was showing up in my radio screen as needing to be replaced (in hindsight, don't know that he needed to replace either). He had no answer, so I opened the tail light assembly, the bulb looked fine, so I cleaned the 2 contacts and applied a thin coat of GCE, turned the engine on the annoying ’brake light failure’ notification was gone

Today after 29 year of use I am having my 2 HVAC systems replaced.  The installer is easy going as I am treating connections at the time of hookup with Nano Flo. I will go back later and treat the furnace control and motor boards as they are indoors and easy to get to. Reason I am doing this is Chris from Nano Flo sent me a picture of his extension cord that is hooked to an AC unit that pulls 900 watts. He sent a thermal image of the connector at the wall which indicated 130 degrees pretreated and running at full tilt.  After treatment and some time the same connection measured in the mid  70 degree range..Tom

Yes Tommy Lion I treated those and the Stop Itz..My next pursuit is to make my recent streamer purchase sound as good as my cd transport..Wish me luck as I am wanting to juice up the power supply first.  Learn as I go. Tom

So this material is supposed to increase signal co-efficiency and conductance producing better sound quality?

Very curious. 

If you haven’t already treated the AC plugs on the black boxes from our friend with Nano Flo, you should try it. Worked really well for me.

NASA Man uses nps 1260 or Q45t..he should try it on his network connections. Tonight after TV time I will treat the rest of my 'puter stuff. Tom

I purchased a streamer 10 days ago my 1st experience.Pretty flat and a tad forward. Of course I will mod the hell out of this piece. The first easiest and staring me in the eyes was the 2 wireless antenna..Seeing an opportunity I whipped out my trusty Nano Flo and treated the antenna connections.

There was an immediate improvement in tone and texture and the body of the center image. I may have to keep this darn thing. Try the nps or Q45 on your wireless connections. Could be a suprise...Tom

 

I bought 10ml Graphene Contact Enhancer from Mad Scientist for $79

 

He has US distribution so, said it will come fast

I will be be removing nps 1260 in a day or so and applying Nano Flo to my DAC...I have Q45 sealed in a bottle..never tried it after the 1st application of Nano Flo. Hard to imagine or seek out a greater benefit of any connection type. Tom

@theaudiotweak 

Thank you for this NanoFlo thread.  I was concerned that rumors of HFC closing would have made their NPS1260 unobtainable.  Since then, seems that the Q45T supply is also limited. 

It would have been nice to see a NanoFlo vs Q45T sonic comparisons because maybe I'd pick up the Q45T if superior, however if subsequently the Q45T became unobtainable I'm not a fan of cleaning all my contacts before switching brands. 

So something was wrong with one or more contacts and this contact enhancer solved the issue! Good to know, and I'm glad that worked so well for you. I've not tried contact enhancers yet but I can relate to your experience of having a seemingly intractable problem come down to a bad contact. 

You EQ sibilance between 4,000 - 6000hz no idea what bits you're talking about. 

You're not going to get rid of it with goop on a freaking wire.

By all means continue with whatever program you're lost in.

@djones51 - he also closed metal door of the breaker box to get rid of Sybil.

You EQ sibilance between 4,000 - 6000hz no idea what bits you're talking about. 

You're not going to get rid of it with goop on a freaking wire.

By all means continue with whatever program you're lost in.

djones51

"If you have glare it’s probably sibblance around 4khz, EQ until you have a decent FR . . . "

Hmmm.

- Doesn’t understand the difference between glare vs sibilance.  Let alone spell it.

- EQ? Who needs those extra bits anyway?

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