I have a hard time believing that one can tell the position of the breaker box door, by listening to music/
… The rack is mechanically grounded to the concrete floor with 2.5 inch brass Audiopoints..The treated breaker box is 8 feet from my system and has The Gate mounted inside.. The breaker box is 35 feet from the ground mounted transformer outside. On the meter outside I treated it with the same mix of metals in paint that I applied to the interior breaker box whose metal door was removed because the music plays better when off. That's all about that. Tom
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I would ask what possible reason you would have for applying elemental boron to anything but I fear you would actually tell me.
In the form of mined borax it is great cleaner, mould inhibitor, and insect destroyer..
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NASA should use this stuff.
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The NanoFlo gel is regular petroleum jelly from Walmart, the nanomaterial is what performs. Might try unplugging and reinserting a few times to drive the nano in.
I was surprised to read that petroleum jelly is actually edible.
Reinserting the RCA a few times seems symbolic, or maybe ritualistic.
I am pretty sure that that action also helps many RCAs which may have corrosion, and the lube should also help to keep out moisture, and slowing oxidation, etc.
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Listen, its ok if you are having financial troubles. Its not ok to steal. By the way, how was your order flow today? Brisk
@ghasley FTI: Brusk is spelled with a “u”.
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Sounds like a tin foil hat festival.
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Yeah @soarnatti if the particles were bigger it would make a nice grill.
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Is there any measured data that shows anything with respect to noise, or more volume or less conductivity?
Or is it solely based upon listening after the lore is professed?
@twoleftears - oh, I so don’t want to encourage Chris (nano-flo) but I did not detect a volume increase with the product, a possible result of better conductivity.
This following is 100% pure speculation, grain of salt with the following please?
Since only a small number of units were sold, how is it you tested NanoFlo but there is no record of you getting any?
It was a @rixthetrick which on my pad says 4-16-2022 @7:58 AM
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I wonder this how they take down old hemmy. I just want thank everyone for supportive email and flower. It bring tear to my eye to be part of such community.
@tubemuffer When do you get back from Asia?
Putting some nanotube on the nose of the plane might speed it up and save fuel?
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I try not to be trapped or constrained by conventional textbooks or thoughts.
And you’re succeeding very well at it.
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Is this correct? What was the reason?
There is an Australian word, which is also a word in US (english)… that is rarely uttered in mixed company to describe a person that exhibits that behaviour.
I believe it begins with a “C”.
Often prefixed with “Entitled”, “Mongrel” or other modifiers to denote the level, magnitude, or quality.
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My question @theaudiotweek is how does resurfacing the outside of the string alter in any meaningful way, the internal friction caused by the primary wave splintering off perpendicularly as sheer waves, within the string?
PFM
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I don't perceive my views on many topics that audiophiles treat as religion would be well received here.
There are a few who might.
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I perceived an increase in dynamic range after application to only 6 rca ends. I can listen at much lower levels without feeling the need to jack the volume up as much as before the application. Is the gain in percieved dynamic contrasts the same as "Louder'? Cannot remove and measure and then reapply and measure again because nano particles may not be able to be totaly removed..and then the fact I dont have any more to reapply to measure again. I trust my ears and experience with my body as a listening tool.Tom
I would rather trust a measurement, then the testimony of someone making seemingly wild claims.
But then there is no going back now, as application has all the mythical elements of Achilles being dunked in the river Stix.
And oh yea, tastes like chicken
OI know chicken and snake can seem to have a similar flavour.
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Holmz,
Do you have a list of measurement tests for electrical components or conductive polymers that correlates line by line to descriptive adjectives that gives you the magic answers you seek? Tom
I have a volt meter.
Magic descriptions, I suppose require and magic answers… and I am well out numbered here on the magic front.
This thread reads like a mix of a Jerry Springer episode, and something by Philip K Dick. But the Dick novels were were less schizophrenic
In fact the line by line descriptions almost have the look-n-feel of all being penned by the same hand.
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@rixthetrick I find you to be a great guy and I also believe you (and to some extent Tom) to be sincere gentlemen. Unfortunately, I never stick around long enough when I see a "faith healer" in action...its probably my loss
Both here, and with faith healers, we read things that are essentially the ravings of lunatics… Things that would have normal people committed to institutions.
I don’t know whether it is better to fleece people with no empathy, or to believe in this stuff.
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It’s like Easter every day.
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I have some of this lube in my LP 12 for over 2 years. Its nano diamond lube in mineral oil works great. Tom
So you put in a slurry of diamond paste into a groove, and then plowed a diamond through that?
I suppose it should polish out the sound over time.
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I emptied the bearing well of its black oil and replaced with a clear lubricant containing nano diamond lube. I stated this weeks ago in this thread. Tom
A lube,
A conductive paste.
Particles that debraid the source to make it free from corrosion and oxidation.
An insulator.
Is there nothing that this cannot do depending on the audience you are spruicking the stuff to?
It is like a chameleon product.
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One of the sadder things about this whole sordid affair is seeing you guys yuck it up, while being completely clueless about what is likely lost to those in the wider audio community who get joy from improving their music listening experience, instead of running down things they have zero experience with on forums
To be fair, everyone seems clueless.
The claims are all over the place with insulating, non-toxic, toxic, conductive.
Zero measurements.
To equate hopes and dreams with facts is a stretch.
And one cannot take, say Maxwell’s equations, and chuck in words like “nano”, “synergy”, and “quantum” and make it science… It is basically more of a magical incantation.
And I did not even mention the person spruicking the stuff. A reveiw of those posts could add further insight.
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I wish it was as easy as using something that seems like nail polish, or chucking in a fuse.
The following sounds like a report from attending a seance
holmz,
Listening to and enjoying music, whether live or through a system, is an experience. You can talk about science, claims, people and credibility all day long, but that’s all just speculation. Only a few know, from actual experience, what effect this product has on the the experience of listening to music in the context of a high resolution home audio system.
A synopsis of the thread reads like…
- Magical lube
- Krissy was being taken advantage of
- More magic claims
- sections from the book, “The Emporer’ s new clothes.”
- diamonds, insulating grease, diamonds become metals, insulation becomes superconducting.
- A co-dependency group theory session, that resembles a rugby scrum.
Observing things in the thread is not speculation.
Either publish something or not.
I don’t even know what the stuff looks like, but it sounds like a snake oil infusion or a snake oil aoili .
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You guys disappointed me, I was expecting you to go low with the KY jokes much sooner.
@tommylion it is more symbolic, and I think Tubebuffer was banned.
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@ozzy it has been a week…
Have any changes been noted?
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@deludedaudiophile that point 3 before yours almost looks like were have been expertly trolled.
This one:
So I purchased my PS Audio Lamda transport from Peter Israelson who until recently was a tech, builder and designer for High Fidelity Cables makers of the 1260 and Q45 contact enhancer..Spoke with Peter today about glare digital and otherwise and he had the same experience as me. On some music we would both reach for the remote in anticipation of the glare that we knew was fast approaching and turn the volume down. With the application of Nano Flo there was no glare.
I can post all the mods and tweeks this transport has been thru.. New choke power supply board with Nichicon Gold filter caps.with several film and foil bypass caps,.upgraded zener diodes, Vampire rca digital, new upgraded digital clock board, circuit boards mounted with brass standoffs and brass screws. CDM Pro9 transport and drawer treated with AVM coating, Star Sound CD Cirkulus tophat , cryo treated magnet instead of fuse, upgraded ac input..there is more likely. Oh it sits in the center of a custom Sistrum Sp5 rack that has brass rods instead of the usual stainless steel. These rods are drilled and filled with the same material mix I use in my cello endpins. The transport sounds best on the center shelf because of the increase in torsional rigidity. Found this out by moving the transport from top shelf on down. More stable center image along with better bass when in the middle. The rack is mechanically grounded to the concrete floor with 2.5 inch brass Audiopoints..The treated breaker box is 8 feet from my system and has The Gate mounted inside.. The breaker box is 35 feet from the ground mounted transformer outside. On the meter outside I treated it with the same mix of metals in paint that I applied to the interior breaker box whose metal door was removed because the music plays better when off. That's all about that. Tom
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You EQ sibilance between 4,000 - 6000hz no idea what bits you're talking about.
You're not going to get rid of it with goop on a freaking wire.
By all means continue with whatever program you're lost in.
@djones51 - he also closed metal door of the breaker box to get rid of Sybil.
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Sooo… Nano-flo describes the flow of “owed money” out of the account?
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Gary
you are officially delusional claiming the receipt of the two Holographic cables was contingent on you selling the Hemingways. Tell everyone who else’s cables you are trying to return after their 30 period. Let’s try something different here instead of claiming alien abduction, tell me how many fingers I’m holding up.
Nano-Flo
Class.
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Holmz
im holding up two fingers, peace brother.
chris
It is not a sign of peace in France.
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+15C, pretty cold "room" at 267GPa was the claim. Earth’s core pressure. Way higher than bottom of the ocean. Nature pulled the article because the validity of the claim was in question.
I guess some of us can test the cables in afterlife.
(in the depths of hell.)
Luckily, I am no hurry to prove or disprove it.😎
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Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone. Off came the straight jacket and helmet.
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I am not sure the head is in the vice, but the $ owed, are held with a monkey grip.
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@simao the super conductive hat is much better than tin foil.
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And a merry XMAS to you as well @jerryg123
holmz : as a master snake oiler, you should know this very very, very well. People present all kind of stuff. This was not even slightly difficult to figure out
A part time cable denier, cannot be a very good snake oiler…
Or were you were trying to intimate some double entendre?
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Oh…. And why someone would really pay $1,500 (or even $100) for this crap is truly beyond my comprehension 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Well, to be fair… it is made to sound like goodness, and it was also presented as a no risk deal.
Just in hindsight all the clues were there.
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Another day and no refund @nano-flo you have zero credibility now.
Sad and pathetic.
@jerryg123 to be fair, once many people hear things like room temp superconductors, the average person is filled with awe, and usually soon after…l they are filled with a foreboding feeling of a BS festival.
The person spruiking the stuff, either:
- Believes genuinely this… and the conclusion is then to question their mental faculties.
- Or they do not believe it, and they are a well aware of what they are doing.
In either case, the conclusion one should reach, after the initial awe wears off, is it politely remove themselves from the company of that person.
To say that they have “zero credibility now” assumes that they one did have some.
So it is sort of an insult to everyone’s basic intelligence, or at least a nod to peoples gullibility and desire to not miss out.
I do believe this stuff probably works, but like a magic trick, it’s not working how one believes it is.
(I suspect that it is more likely the scraping action of the shards in the Vaseline are removing corrosion and effectively working like a cutting compound making an old paint job shiny.)
I am not the smartest fellow, but I will not pretend that there is all of a sudden, some loss of credibility. The snake oil has been there since the opening post proclaiming things like…
Today after many years of trials and tribulations …
Sounds like martyrdom.
Or at least some religious quest, like a grail or quixotic endeavour.
Certainly not trail and tribulations like fleeing war.
I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations.
I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep’s wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses.
I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage.
I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the boundaries with in my room by reducing interference.
I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover.
This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s. ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.
These trail and tribulations are pretty first world.
So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end.
^Correct^
The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system. Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.
How can we not be impressed?
And his friend said it, and not him…
What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone. Off came the straight jacket and helmet.
The straight jacket… and tin foil helmet?
What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage.
Wow… where can I get some?
I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency.
Tom
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I think you have to figure out what “snake Oiler” means 😉.
‘’Oh… and you are Full Time such. Your hobby
I suppose you are trying to compete with the Gary fellow for the title of “tool de jur”?
And that you are trying to be offensive to the people who like oiling snakes?
Maybe you need to make friends, or just play alone?
And then you can leave the adults alone here, whom are trying to engage in conversation…and resist with your attempts to display your intolerance and general rancorous character.
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holmz : nasty little person. That’s all I have for you. I don’t even know why I am engaging you. As my grandpa used to say: Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it. Perhaps I should have listened
@thyname OK …
If there is a possibility of a New Years resolution of civility, then I’ll look forwards to next year.
Happy holidays to you, and yours.
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@ghasley ahhh… like the quote about “winning the battle and loosing the war”?
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I wish you well @glory and while I can’t speak for others like @jerryg123 @thecarpathian @nonoise @agisthos @thyname @holmz , I don’t think I will be assisting any longer. I do reserve the right the slam @nano-flo should he crawl out from wherever he’s been hiding
@ghasley I am not I sure I was ever assisting.
The fellow made wild claims, and others hop on board saying not to disparage his snake oil… and other snake oil sellers as they need to run a business.
Then shift to now, and people are dog piling on about how the fellow may not be honest.
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understatement or a hedge???
I suspect that even the snake oil supporters are not questioning the honesty.
But it is only a guess.
… or it is projection.
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Ignoring the drama…
@glory did these cable sound any different than anything else?
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