I always thought he'd look something like this

All the best,
Nonoise

So that's what Geoffkait looks like??!

Not how I had him pictured in my head...

Now then, Ebay did exactly what they were supposed to. The only person in the room that didn’t think this would happen was the "genius".

@glory now that you have your money back, you learned something. Frankly I would have returned them all (as I am on the record not wanting ANYTHING to do with Chris Arnold or @nano-flo ) but I believe you still have some of the cables in your system.

Before you or anyone else claims ANY EFFICACY is achieved whatsoever by smearing Vaseline with a suspended abrasive on your precious gear and paying 4 figures for it, maybe using some Deoxit as a control experiment might be in order.

Order two cables from someone. Listen, smear some Vaseline on, listen and then compare. While I would never recommend using Vaseline (or Nanoflo for that matter) on good audio gear...I believe the people hear something. Me? No thanks.

Anyone who buys anything from @nano-flo going forward, there appears to be a pattern of behavior established.

Well I am so glad this has been worked out. No thanks to Chris Arnold and his lack of ethics and integrity.

I am hopeful that the entire audiophile community learns that Chris Arnold and his company @nano-flo simply cannot be trusted. 

All the best,
Nonoise

@glory  @facten 

glory, I have to agree with facten above.  Your post is weirdly confusing in general and besides that appears to be praising the cable, which is unbelievable after what you have been put through.  And if you or anyone else thinks you can slop some goop on a cable and make it fantastic, well, let's leave it at that.

@glory

"I would never ever write a review now on this product "

And yet by these comments you already did , in fact a favorable review

"doesn’t equal The awesomeness of the product,"

"the Flo he has a product that is a Break through contact enhancer, .... awesome product that indeed works on a $25 cable and turns it into a a giant killing $20,000 cable plus."

Always best to re-read what you write

@glory  It took me a while to put together why your image seemed so familiar, but it just came to me how similar you look to our old friend geoffkaitt

glory

geoffkait image from linkedin

The first two guys that existed the door first at the bar, where were they during all the writings in this thread  on the behalf of integrity and good character???

Well, all right!

You get your refund, a company owner shows the audio world how you'll be treated when you do business with him.

Interesting that if you type in the company's name, this forum discussion pops up first and foremost.

Something that might have been thought about at the beginning of this debacle.

You reap what you sow...

Holmz

have you ever noticed that some very very attractive folks cannot handle their looks as it goes to their heads, and their personality becomes tainted by their good looks, and also those who have incredible amounts of money, even though they’re not good, looking or contaminated by the amounts of money they possess such is what we have going with the Flo he has a product that is a Break through contact enhancer, but his personality has been contaminated and tainted by this awesome product that indeed works on a $25 cable and turns it into a a giant killing $20,000 cable plus.

Great sound in the area of audio is not worth compromising My integrity and character as many in this industry have been bought out and paid for for either half price products or free products to write reviews open up threads and the such I would never ever write a review now on this product because the man carrying the product doesn’t equal The awesomeness of the product, whereas had he given me the refund without eBay’s intervention I may have given him a review, knowing that his character equals his product.

This is a great day for the light of truth and justice as she has prevailed over darkness

Ignoring the drama…

@glory did these cable sound any different than anything else?

Tomorrow we find out If the Flo has convinced EBay to let him off the hook on the refund. His only defense is I altered the cables and with that he needs pics to prove his point that he doesn’t have. Plugging the cables in and out 3 times per his phone conversation with me would “alter” the cables? By plugging in and out would spread the Nano into the receptacles he told me.

Spent $7.5K and want $3K refunded with 2 returned cables in less than 10 days returned back to the Flo. Sad creature.

Will keep you posted.

My last post violated AG terms so I deleted it before Chris cried to the mods

ghasley 

You have one heck of an imagination coming up with your last post. Pounding the table has happened here on this thread.  The 1st 2 leaving out the side door early 🥳. 

CC said EBay 1st PP 2nd and if they fail to do their job they will step in. All 3 want the buyer to work it out with the seller 1st. 😳🙄

@jerryg123 if we were all in a bar, Chris, you, me, the OP, MikeG, Glory…we would have had Tweak sneak out the side door early. MikeG would have soon after, Chris would be pounding the table that he is right and a genius and the bouncer would have winked at us. We would have done our best to advise Glory but people do what they do. Chris might have even pounded the table one time too often and he would have been removed from the table…unless he was running a tab.

@glory it’s too bad but I have a sincere question for you. You would NEVER do business in this way in any other part of your life so why did you in hifi? Chris is thr proverbial guy in the white van and you didn’t bother researching him further for a $4.5k purchase?

Something is also amiss because if I dispute a charge on my card, it happens instantly. 

You are too funny @ghasley 🤣

@jerryg123 I hear you…I don’t wonder about the motivations of the proprietor of the shell game (Chris @nano-flo ) but I do wonder about those gathered around, certain they can spot which shell has the pea.  @glory and others made an ill advised decision to get in the game. Anyone doing so from here on should have their head examined. 

I would sooner trust the Nigerian princess who recently contacted me to assist her collecting 100 bazillion British pounds from her bank, which she has agreed to split with me….I would trust her more than I would trust Chris @nano-flo 

I’ve known the “reviewer” and spoken and written to him many times and trusted his take on the product and his take on Nano Flo was very accurate as his findings were the same as mine. I kept three, and returned two and with that we all get to see the Flo’s true character.

Altered and extortion, disclaimer on the receipt not to wipe off the group all adds to his broken down character being exposed.I didn’t even know there was goop on the cables when I opened the box and right away like the audio fool I am I applied the black Q45 Rick Schulz goop on the first three. No instruction at all in the box. Zero. Now on his EBay ad he has his disclaimer on no other contact enhancers in your system and if so 100% must be removed Otherwise the warranty and refund are voided.I kept $4.5K of his $25.00 cables and returned 2. I now have 3 cables with no warranty because he didn’t take the time to write out instructions on how to use his product.

Glory is still learning about Life and the complications involved in dealing with different types of personalities and this Nano Flo personally here has a name folks use…..

Mind boggling is a great way to sum up this thread 🙈

Great synopsis @ghasley, I simply do not have the patients and tact for that. More of a junkyard dog when it comes to thieves and grifters like Chris @nano-flo rather take him in an ally then take him to court.

The old hockey player in me. 

@glory understood. Another valuable lesson right?

You read a review on a product from a new entity (I use “entity” quite loosely with respect to @nano-flo ) and next time its highly likely you google for a second opinion? This thread where nano showed his true colors early on was here for the perusing prior to your unfortunate decision to purchase the silly power cable.

People will read 20 reviews when buying tires, ask friends, inquire and yet…a generic power cable with no background on the construction…just an application of Vaseline containing some suspended particles with no explanation? Mind boggling.

I had no idea he was such a man Prior to me buying as I was guided by the audio reviewer Mike and how great the product was. I trusted his opinion and take on the product not the Nano Flo man.

@glory I’m not trying to make you feel worse than you already do but don’t you now regret engaging with @nano-flo at all? And you did so with the knowledge of his previous pattern of behavior? I don’t believe I will ever understand where your head was when you knew Chris to be of questionable character and behavior.

This is a valuable lesson for us all: why do we assume that the snake won’t bite us when there is a clear record of the snake biting. ANYONE who does business with @nano-flo going forward ACCEPTS these risks and will get no sympathy.

Krissy is the lady who was selling your goop, Flo?? I hear that you two had a falling out because she was selling to many tubes of your goop making you paranoid that people were going to steal from you so you yanked it from her. With all kinds of threats including a lawsuit that she was stealing your secret sauce. She’s an upright lady that would and has never screwed a client over did nor her late husband Timmy. 
 

You had your goop in one of the most trusted and loyal members here on Audiogon selling for you and you got ……..  and wanted to sue her?

The Flo has a long trail of bad decisions.

@nano-flo

A few facts, if you don’t mind letting facts get in the way.

1) You posted an ad on Ebay for a power cable with your Nanoflo treatment applied

2) You did so initially with an unconditional money-back guarantee

3) @glory and you agreed to a severe discounted price at less than half of your ask

4) @glory decided for whatever reason to return the cables for a refund

5) Between you and @glory there were some zigs and zags about possible other sub-deals and modifications but based on the commentary, it doesn’t appear any of those other variations were agreed to by either party

6) You flatly refuse to refund in spite of you initally having no terms or conditions

7) You subsequently have changed your terms and conditions to make it more difficult so maybe @glory isn’t the only requested refund in process

8) You have visions of grandeur about the value of a mild abrasive suspended in Vaseline as an effective “contact enhancer”

9) You may or may not sell alot of these to unsuspecting and perhaps foolish buyers who purchase in spite of your willingness to abide by your own terms so buyer beware

10) You are indeed displaying the classic behavior of the stubborn child unable to see the forest for the trees but that’s ok, no sweat off most of us because there is no desire to provide capital to a charade

11) Your best strategy is to refund @glory and hope that none of the others who will want a refund do their due diligence but I actually am holding out hope that you don’t…not because I want @glory to be harmed but rather I want there to be a clear cut pattern of behavior established by you so that decent hifi folks will avoid you and your products

12) What’s hilarious is you actually believe you have some superior intellect when, to those who take a milisecond to review your communications and your track record, we are left shaking our heads in laughter

13) You have no special product unless you were to market it as some sort of surface polish and lubricant which enhances the connection by effectively sanding microscopic surface anomolies but of course, you wouldn’t know because you have no credible scientific background nor expertise in any applicable field

14) I hope you keep posting your jr high replies and retorts so people get an absoltuely clear picture of who you are. In the unlikely event I encounter an employee with the traits you frquently display, they are soon unemployed. It isn’t worth the effort to try and convince them they weren’t hired to retool the company, just to mop and empty the trash

15) I’m sure you’ll make a little money here and there and those who are secretly backing your endeavor (because you wouldn’t know the first thing about how to build a cable nor are you likely to have the working capital to launch a lawn service let alone a viable cable company) may be able to stick a sock in that pie-hole long enough to sell a few. I very much hope the audio community is able to identify who those people are who are behind you because they are equally as undesirable as you are.

@nano-flo your ignorance is astounding. So how many post, how many pages here and that’s the best you have. You are functionally illiterate in both the English language and business. You completely lack honor or integrity. Your sociopathic tendencies come right out in your last post.

Pay @glory and go away, you are nothing more than a Carnival Barker. Selling drill bits at the state fair.

Stating how you like the cables you personally own is trolling??!

Let’s see,

Promised published data- nothing. claims of videos coming out- nothing. promised money back guarantee- nothing....

Not a single promise met.

It’s obvious who you troll for; yourself.

And you’re really, really bad at it.

Thanks for finally letting us all know who you troll for jerryg123

@nano-flo actually do not buy into your snake oil bs cables. My Zavfino Silver Darts are fantastic. Your business is done slick. Should have listened to Chuck. 
 

Sad little man. 

@nano-flo good luck with the nonstick cookware. I hear Lori Greiner on Shark Tank will be passing on it though, she is a real inventor and entrepreneur and can smell a fraud from Lombard 1000 mile away. 

@nano-flo You have just entered this industry and are busy destroying your reputation with this nonsense. Just give him his refund. Its only a $10 cable with gel on it, you are not out of pocket on this.

This hobby is lacking a good contact enhancer, with previous products no longer available. You could be the one to have a solution and successful product.

This Krissy women warned you about selling a treated $10 power cable, and she could obviously see how it would blow back on Nanoflo once exposed. But you got greedy, did not listen, and here we are.

You will make more money in the end just selling the contact enhancer widely, than trying to sell a few high priced items directly. You may sell a few $4k power cables initially but you will sell a lot more of the contact enhancer.

Gary’s generous Christmas Eve offer and his altered offer for the group are both Extortion and show he never understood my gel is not for sale. He also never mentioned he wiped my gel off the cable ends despite the disclaimer on his receipt NOT to do so. He asked for some gel to re coat and refused my refund offer and wanted the two cables. After receiving .1 ml of gel he wanted to pay for more but when I refused he without notice returned the two holographic cables after stripping the gel off. 
eBay is getting the original and altered offer of extortion for Gary’s file. 

I heard that Tesla will start selling it as an undercoating so the dealers can make something extra on the side.

"I am hearing this @nano-flo is now moving on to Non-Stick Cookware...  His latest get rich quick scheme will be pitched on Shark Tank."

It has the added advantage of being pre-greased...

@jerryg123 oh my, how funny...

I am hearing this @nano-flo is now moving on to Non-Stick Cookware...  His latest get rich quick scheme will be pitched on Shark Tank. 

PP closed my case as they wanted by 12/16/2022 info of receipt I shipped them. They are reopening the case.😳🙈🙄
 

I meant to write 12/26/22 deadline 

@glory : good! You are taking the steps you should have taken weeks ago. Better late than never, as they say. 

My wife had me on the phone with EBay within 10 minutes. How do they (wife)  manage to do that when I couldn’t get them?

ebay is hot on it and I only needed to supply them with info that I shipped them back within the 30 days from FedEx with their tracking number.

I am sure he will continue to say I altered them by wiping the goop off but that’s not altering them.

PP closed my case as they wanted by 12/16/2022 info of receipt I shipped them. They are reopening the case.😳🙈🙄

what’s todays date? 12/27/2022???

understatement or a hedge???

I suspect that even the snake oil supporters are not questioning the honesty.
But it is only a guess.

… or it is projection.

This is just the sort of thread that reflects poorly upon Honest Snake Oil Salesmen 😆 

@holmz 

”may not be honest”

undertatement or a hedge???