Worrying about this is what keeps me up at night.
Must be related to EBM. He spends a lot of sleepless nights, too.
Mitigating the Bubble
Today after many years of trials and tribulations I have mitigated a sonic aberration a horizontal phase anomaly in my center stage. While the center image was always stable and outlined it seemed narrow and bubble like and I would need to shift my body angle to really lock in the image. This was obvious on many CDs and LPs .
I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations. I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep's wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses. I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage. I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the boundaries with in my room by reducing interference. I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover. This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s. ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.
So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end. The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system. Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone. Off came the straight jacket and helmet. What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage.
I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency.
Tom
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So when are you going to create a brand new username and post screenshots of the PMs from me when you were posting as Audio2Design five usernames of yours ago? What do I have to say to trigger you?
Obviously feel free to use this Deluded Audiophile username to post those screenshots. You can create a new username pronto. Very easy for you. What do you have to loose? Do it |
I must say this site continues to be a treasure of strange behavior. There are some political discussions going on where I am sure you can offer "enlightening" additions to the dialog if you feel the need to go off on a tangent. When you are obviously susceptible to conspiracy theories I don't think you should be passing judgment on other's mental health. |
@steakster : it’s the same dude. From your list. You will have to update your list 🤷♂️ |
58 posts since joining Audiogon 4 days ago. You’re as prolific as a guy who has been banned under these former usernames. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ thynamesinnervoice aka cindyment aka snratio aka yesiamjohn aka sugabooger aka dletch2 aka audio2design aka dannad aka roberttdid aka heaudio123 aka audiozenology aka atdavid
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I must say, I do appreciate the creativity these "contact enhancer" companies use in their marketing material. I guess absent a shred of evidence (or science to support), they have to use something to justify the purchase. The "magnetic particle" one that takes 100 hours to align. That is my personal favourite. I am rather curious how they "align" in what is theoretically a continually varying magnetic field. If these geniuses could share how they turned a 2D dimensional structure such as graphene which is also a 2 dimension conductor into an effective 3 dimension conductor, they could make 10's of millions of dollars. They are sitting on a gold mine! |
And @twoleftears , if you don't like or want an over priced mass market cable, you can pick up a Liberty Quarter from the same seller, or any number of other trinkets. When you are too lazy to even create a custom sales profile, what does that say? |
The screed of text in Item Specifics makes for some, errr, interesting reading. https://www.ebay.com/itm/154936890468?hash=item2412f55464:g:ddoAAOSwmf9iWb7G |
The sample I received came from HFC in Texas with zero information. It looks like a graphene product. Considering the date of receipt, quite likely it is NPS1260, which I just searched: it got a great review in Enjoy the Music 08/2021 I never said the Furutech product came from the same source, just that I did a search for Nano, the the Furutech video was one of the results
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PPT = Perfect Path Technologies. It is the name of a company that ceased operations years ago. PPT did sell a contact enhancer called Total Contact. High Fidelity Cables is the name of a company that recently suspended operations. It has no relationship to Perfect Path Technologies (PPT). High Fidelity Cables did sell a contact enhancer called NPS1260 - which is no longer available. They developed another contact enhancer called Q45T - sold only via The Cable Company - at this time. Fururtech is the name of another company. It also sells a contact enhancer - called Nano Liquid Contact Enhancer. Furutech has no relationship to High Fidelity Cables or PPT. Nano-Flo is the name of another contact enhancer - that is being discussed in this thread. It is manufactured by a different company from all of the above. Your post is not clear as to what you own. |
Im late to this party, but, I had a sample of the PPT from High Fidelity Cables that I received some 6 months ago, but never got around to applying it, until Thursday, or Friday past. As it is only a sample I proceeded with closest to the source (Audiolab CDT6000 and pre/dac Audio Alchemy DDP-1) connected via Pangea Coax Premier XL. Immediately, it did not disappoint. In fact, for the most part revelatory. The following day I planned to treat my Wire World Series 7 XLRs between amp and pre. It occurred to me that I neglected to apply PPT to the coax RCA jacks as well, so since the amp and pre were going to be turned off anyway, I removed the coax and was taken aback as all the graphene on the barrels had been pushed back due to the tight contact inside the female RCAs. No Bueno! In the meantime a friend mentioned Nano. I found a YTVideo from Furutech that made a lot of sense to me. Is it a different product than what is being discussed here?
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@jerryg123 great video 😄 |
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From Ebay,
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Both here, and with faith healers, we read things that are essentially the ravings of lunatics… Things that would have normal people committed to institutions. I don’t know whether it is better to fleece people with no empathy, or to believe in this stuff. |
Can I interest anyone in swamp land in Florida? There will be no properly done blind testing, there will no properly done electrical testing. It’s the same as his snake oil claims w.r.t. automotive, like vehicles increasing in HP 30%, or fuel economy going from 5mpg to 8mpg for a semi. Anyone with a hint of thermodynamics or who knows the difference between fluid and contact lubrication/resistance will understand these claims are science fiction. The only "test" that appears to have had any sort of control showed about 1.9% improvement, which is actually tolerable but can me matched by regular lubricants. For some reason, that result was quickly pulled. Strange huh? Something tells me the leopard has not changed his spots and I would not jump in the cage with him .... he sees you as "food grade".
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Seeking clarification for those who may be inclined to order your products:
In the above fuse ad copy, you seem to imply that you can get your money back only if it fails. (you probably meant "your" money back rather than "you" money back). You also generously offer money back if it doesn't arrive in two weeks. What if it arrives in 2.5 weeks...who pays return shipping? Whereas under your warranty ad copy below...
Does this mean that any and all Nano-Flo products may be returned within 30 days for a full refund? Also, did you mean "RMI" or "RMA"?
What is "unique nano Power Flow technology"? You haven't tested for any power efficacy as of the date you post that on your website???
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@rixthetrick I'm sure Chris was already planning it, what with the methodical, careful and well thought out development approach he seemingly utilizes. |
@ghasley - funnily enough I suggested food dye to Krissy some days ago, in the same colour. Otherwise the stuff is almost invisible in tiny amounts. |
@rixthetrick I know right? This guy Chris must not quite get what some of us have been saying. I don’t know whether the now green juice makes a positive difference in some systems or no difference but he is in credibility free fall on the power cord.
Chris, care to share the testing methodology for the blind tests? Can’t wait to see the fuses... |
@ghasley - are you kidding me? hahahaha |
It now appears that the amazing power cord now comes in a version 2.0. The photo of the Nano-Flo power cable from earlier last week now seems to have a cover heatshrinked onto the same cable. No one should be skeptical though...especially considering the below description of the cable taken directly from the Nano-Flo website. Please take note of the comment about cable coverings and the extra attention paid to the ad copy which seemingly missed the spelling of "lengths". Making it up on the fly exposes all the sausage making...
www.nano-flo.com
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Often times Chris, reputable organizations test for efficacy prior to making claims of efficacy. What tests are you referring to above? You haven't performed any tests!
Would you please set the stage for the test to come so that the public may evaluate the results?
Who is performing the tests?
Were they furnished with two cords? One $5 Home Depot power cable and one $5 Home Depot power cable treated with Nano-Flo? Did the two cables measure identically prior to the application of Nano-Flo to the one? Rudimentary knowledge of quality control methods for a Chinese made mass produced $1 at wholesale ($1 may be generous) might cast doubt on positive or negative findings since your initial approach might not capture an appropriate baseline measurement between the two cables.
I am interested in the baseline electrical conductivity versus the improved electrical conductivity change you initially claimed prior to having the data.
It would also be helpful for you to explain what was treated on the power cord. I assume it was the contacts since the photos of the cords seem to indicate they were molded at manufacture which would prohibit the treatment of anything internal to the cable.
Listen, to all the sincere believers for the now key-lime "contact enhancer", more power to you. Enjoy your systems in any way you like, you’ll get no flack from me. Awesome. Heck, it would even be great to learn that it cures the common cold although after several days of implying otherwise, its now not advised to drink it.
Once again, to be clear. I dont know Krissy, I don’t know Chris, its obvious their business relationship was never formalized appropriately or it wouldn’t have been so easy to separate. I have not used any "contact enhancers" in the past and I have no skin in the game either way. It should be painfully obvious by now that if I didn’t have any desire to take up Chris’s generous offer previously for a free sample it is unlikely that I would ever spend money to try it in the future.
The only thing that truly bugs me is the aggressive "here I am" entrance and the claims made in advance of any testing otherwise. Chris has clearly stated that his Lexus’ car stereo is his only system and asks you to take him at his word for something he has no knowledge of. Do so at your own risk because this has every marker of a carnival midway.
I have never met a world class chef who uses a Ginsu knife...and I’ve never met a wold class manufacturer of audio equipment who uses Ginsu contact enhancer. We have, however, seen countless instances where great audio companies include power cables with their gear FOR FREE similar to the one Nano is trying to sell for $1,000 and up. You pays your money, its your party.
@rixthetrick I find you to be a great guy and I also believe you (and to some extent Tom) to be sincere gentlemen. Unfortunately, I never stick around long enough when I see a "faith healer" in action...its probably my loss.
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Evidently, like Fox Mulder said, some people really do want to believe. Only the thing is, they want to believe that Apollo 11 never landed on the moon, that the CIA did for JFK, that Sarah Palin reads magazines, and that nano-flo is the NEXT BIG THING. I suspect that it gives them a warm and fuzzy feeling just to think that they know something that most people don't, and no amount of reasoning is going to persuade them otherwise. So there will always be a limited clientele for purveyors of this sort of product, more's the pity. |
@nano-flo - just because I got a trial with neither of what you describe, doesn't mean I was cheated. Krissy isn't perfect fair enough (nor are we), don't go branding her a thief. |
@steakster Nano-Flo totally lost credibility with his $1000 power cord Nest week if it tests out to be no better than a $10 Amazon cord I will apologize to everyone publicly, pull it from ebay, not list them on Amazon and definitely not send any more to studios and musicians for their opinions. Main tests will be posted on my website regardless, but I expect to see what has happened in the past testing, to continue in this lab too. The new kid
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@sheridd2 I get similar results after cleaning all the cable connections in my system with DeoxIT - every 18 months or so. Yet, I do believe cable connections can be improved with a well-designed contact enhancer. In due time, I’ll probably try Q45T. Nano-Flo totally lost credibility with his $1000 power cord - soon to be $1500. It’s obvious that he’s overreached. Not in the same league as Purist, Synergistic, Dynamic Designs, Furutech, Oyaide, etal. He has yet to understand that the connectors are as important to a cable as the wire and wire geometry - to influence SQ. He’s probably never heard of ETI Research - or KLEI - or ATL. |
@holmz unfortunately it is painfully obvious why Chris, after having wrung all the dollars he could from the 200MPG carburettor crowd is now targeting audiophiles. The information is readily available that diamond is an insulator but people want to believe in magic, hence the 200MPG carburettor even though this little thing called thermodynamics revealed it would not work. It is like the little kid and the stove, except some people keep touching the stove even after being burned. |
