Looking to build a system for under $5k
Hello,
I am brand new to audio and looking to put a system together for around/under $5k all in. Any recommendations?
This would be mainly for CD audio but expandable for phono in the future. I have a small bedroom that I am dedicating as a music room upstairs in a cape cod style home. So it has angled walls that follow the roof line.
Looking for components that offer the biggest bang for the buck. I've done some research over the last couple of months and it seems like the Vandersteen 1Ci might be a good cornerstone to design a system around.
Thanks,
Joe
Spatial Audio M3 Turbos, a PS Audio Sprout, and a decent CD transport can keep you well under $5k. AQ cables. Done. I'm running a Sprout with M1 Turbos, and loving it. Old Theta Pearl transport, old MIT cables. Li'l Sproutie has plenty of power to blow you out of the room with the highly-efficient M3s. |
You can buy a lot of good quality used gear for $5K. Here's an example of a system that would allow you to get into playing digital files at some future date. Total spend on gear is estimated at $3,550, and decent (but not high end) cabling at $1,450. For cabling, there are a lots of used deals in the price range I quoted. All prices for the gear below has been found on either Audiogon or USAudioMart. With a bit of negotiation, you could pay less. Doge 8 tube preamp - $1,000 Teac UD-501 DAC - $600 ADCOM GFA-555 monoblocks (600 W) $550 Denon DVD-2900 SACD/CD player $200 Yamaha NS-1000M speakers $1,200 Sub-total: $3,550 cables: Wireworld Equinox 7 speaker $500 RCA interconnects (3 x $250) = $750 Coax (digital) cable $200 Sub-total: $1,450 Grand Total: $5,000 Enjoy the search! |
I live in HI where there are 2 dealers, neither of which is open most of the time. Since my in-laws live in DE I looked there and found Overture Audio, one of the best dealers in the US. They sell the full range of stuff from entry level to Devialet, McIntosh, Hegel, etc. I have bought one item from them over the years and spent hours there listening to different things. Might want to check them out. I also bought equipment from Quest for Sound in Bensalem, PA. I wanted to hear Kef LS50s. I spend a day there and got great gear at great prices with a no pressure experience. In fact, when I mentioned upping my purchase of a Marantz amp to the Reference level they suggested I listen more as they didnt think it was worth the increased dollars! |
Audiogon was partially born on purchasing used gear. $5k will build quite a system buying used. ML Theos loudspeakers ML Depth i subwoofer PS Audio NuWave DAC Dennis Had, former CARY AUDIO, Inspire Firebottle KT88 amp, Inspire LP2 preamp Marantz TT1S1 turntable w/ Clearaudio cartridge Entire system under $5k. There's too much depreciation in gear for some of us to buy new. If one has money to burn, then obviously one isn't bound by $5k. |
Hi Joe , Lots of advice given . Try to keep this in mind . You Will change things ! it happens to all of us . Lots of trial & error - then success . You will hear things especially speakers in sound rooms - they will sound great . a] pay attention to what components are be used to drive speakers ? b] acoustics in these sound rooms are tweaked - usually big time . I'm very familiar with you type of bedroom - lots of angles , lower ceiling , etc . Placement will be critical . Finding a pair of speakers is critical but will be hard until you hear them in your room you will not know for sure . I'm thinking [ and have been through this ] a speaker with more of an open sound will fill room nicely I went through box style like KLH5's , Spendor A5's ,Golden ear 5's Magnepan .7's Right now I'm using & quite happy with an older used pair of DQ10'S They are not necessarily better [ the spendors & maagies were great] but they SOUND better in my room [ its a basement with a low ceiling and has proven to be a real pain in the a$$] You may do well to start with some basic [ less $ ] equipment and find your sweet spot one thing that has been mentioned - Blue Jean Cables - very good all you'll need also I'm a big fan of Rogue audio - the newer Sphinx is a real good " best bang for the buck" int amp .. Good luck & don't forget to Listen to the Music ! You will get caught up listening to equipment . |
Hi Joe, I started long time ago with a Rega products (Brio amp & EL8 speakerd) and I still have them up to today. And plus if you are thinking buying LP in the future, they have very good LP player at reasonable price comparison to different brands. For a CD player I would think about an universal player like OPPO. But first, you should look for an specialized audio store around your area and listen to different brands and combination to educate your ears. All our recommendations are subjectives. The best system is the one that makes you tape your feet. Do not waste your time in big box stores. 5k$ is a very good buget. |
a lot depends on your room...... If I had 5K and an average sized space, I would do Vandy 2CESignatureII's (2300 or so) coupled with a Vincent SV237 hybrid class A intergrated from Audio Advisor for about 2300 including a great DAC Just add an Oppo or Marantz player and yer set...... You could also go Magnepan 1.7i's instead of the Vandys. |
I see allot of great advice on gear but very little inquiry on what is important to the end user. Many of you do not inquire how this particular gentleman is going to use his system, or take into consideration what this man may find appealing both in sonics as well as visual presentation, and although Vandersteens are very good speakers their look and sound is polarizing, many Women hate their boxy, fabric look, not to mention that if you have Cats they might not be the best choice. Also Vandersteens sonic signature is laid back which some people love and others do not. I find it disturbing that they seem to be shouted out as the holy grail when I find them to be a very fine product but just one good choice in a sea of excellent choices. This is the same argument that Wilson is the best or B&W is the best or Magico.,I personally don't feel that any of my speakers is the best I have my favorites however, we extol the virtues of many different brands of speakers and let the customer decide which product they find matches their tastes, room size, visual look and sonic flavor. All loudspeakers have their strengths and weaknesses and this gentleman needs to hear many different products and systems till he finds out exactly what he finds satisfying. Also many people don't' want tubes or multi piece audio systems with a lot of components. So what I find interesting is how few of you have actually asked the pertinent questions of how the customer is going to use their system and what qualities matter most and what are the features or qualities that matter to the purchaser. There is a difference between the music lover and the die hard audiophile, and unfortunately too many of you do not realize that the music lover does not necessarily care about tubes or records they just want to listen to music on a higher quality system. and simplicity and streaming may matter more. When I talk to a customer I ask all of these questions, we start with the choice of speakers first then work on electronics. For your guys edification, Audio Doctor, has largest collection of audio gear in the area, and we have quite a few brands of equipment that we showcase. So for this gentleman's budget we have a choice of three or four excellent sets of speakers and many different combinations of electronics: We have the Dali Opticons 6 and they are amazing for $2,500.00 The Dali's offer a unique set of sonic qualities they have a huge sound stage, are very warm yet have surprising detail. We have the KEF R 500 a great $2,500.00 speaker, big sound stage, very good clarity and resolution, stunning wood work. We have the Paradigm Prestige 75 very detailed floor standers, outstanding bass and dynamics We have NAD, Cambridge Audio, Naim, Micromega, Nuprime, April Music and many more. In tems of first real audio systems, the Naim Uniqute is one hell of a great amp which has a built in dac, streams, Tidal and Spotify and is very compact with a great app. The Nuprime IDA 8 at $995 beats most $2k integrated amplifiers and we have many more great choices. So to recap there are many great speakers in this price range, there are many choices of simple effective systems, this gentleman needs to understand that his choice should mirror all of the things that may be important to him,and that includes the way a system looks, its sound quality, how it suits his musical tastes, as well as how the system functions. He should visit Audio Connection and we would welcome him to visit Audio Doctor to hear our collection. If you guys are in the area you should come in and take a listen to some of our systems. |
Joe, good to hear back from you. In as much as I agree with Audiotroy, and agree you should check out Audio Doctor, I also believe much of his advice and several of his questions were asked by several who responded to you in previous posts. I myself have asked several questions, while not suggesting the purchase of a single specific component. When asking advice on a forum like this it is best to provide as much information about what it is your are looking for in a system, your listening environment, your sonic preferences (takes listening to several systems to understand this), and of course budget to solicit the best responses. You are forunate to live where there are several quality outlets to visit to discover for yourself what will make for the best system for you. After some exploration, if you wish you can get back to us with more specific question. Some personal, and in no way exhaustive, suggestions reflecting my approach to putting together a system at your budget, some of which have been aforementioned in posts above: Listen to several speakers, even those out of budget to get a feel for what sonic characters suit you best. I am not one to suggest spending half your budget on speakers. There are many $1000 - $2000 pairs that will play well into your room. I prefer 2-way stand mounts for bedroom sized rooms. Those of moderate to high sensitivity and not low ohm opens up choices for amplification. You should not need an excessive amount of power so you can focus on quality not quantity wattage. Think in terms of an integrated amplifier. Best bang for you buck, and there are many available to fit your budget. Choice will be in part dependent on speaker. On an aside, I did own a Vincent hybrid once and wish I never sold it. Regarding source equipment, there are so many ways to go. Give much consideration to what sources you are going to utilize. This will determine to great extent your allocation of budget and what features you will need in an amplifier. I believe you desire to focus on digital for now with the possibility of getting a TT later. Either source demands much research to get right. Much information on this and other forums regarding digital and analog sources. Buy the cables you need used online. You will save money. Research room treatment and practice DIY. All provided with best intentions, regards. Mike |
Quick update!!! I had a chance to stop by 2 dealerships this weekend. First up was John at Audio Connection.... John, as previously stated is a wonderful guy. I was there for probably two hours and it felt like we were two music buffs just hanging out listening to great tunes. No pressure and extremely helpful. He first demoed the Vandersteen Treos. Initially with an Ayre AX-5 Twenty integrated and then with a Belles Aria. Both amps sounded fantastic but the sound stage with the Ayre was a notch or two above, and at nearly 10x the cost I would expect that to be the case. We then went in to the back room where we listened to the Vandersteen 1ci’s, again with the Belles Aria integrated. All of the components here were within my initial 5k budget. The speakers were so transparent they just kind of faded into the room. I felt as though I was no longer listening to the speakers but listening to the music. John played types of music I never would consider listening to on my own but the speaks were so engaging. Next up was Steve at Quest for Sound in Bensalem, PA..... I told Steve what I was looking for and what my approximate budget was. We then went into one of his show rooms and listened to the KEF R500’s with a Rogue Audio Shynx amp. What a tremendously different experience vs. the Vandersteeens. In comparion the KEF’s sounded more scooped in the mids with a heavy emphasis on tight, punchy bass. Sound stage was virtually non existent and clarity no where near as good as the Vandys. I asked if perhaps we could give the KEF’s a go with a different amp. He swapped out the Rogue for a Parasound (the model escapes me at the moment). Still not that much of an improvement. Needless to say I was in and out of there in 20 minutes. I really felt listening to the Vandy 1ci’s with the Belles Aria, that I could be quite content with this system for years to come. Anyway, that’s were I’m currently at. Comments are more than welcome. -Joe |
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Hello Joe, I have been following your thread and are waiting for you to come into our shop for a visit as well. You are not mentioning what sources and how the systems were played which can be a big factor in how a system images and sounds. Audio Connections system was $1,500 speakers with a $2,500 amp for $4,000k what was the source being demoed and how expensive was that source? As per the Quest for sound system, $2,500 speakers, plus $1,300 amp as per a Rouge or a Parasound both are good starter amps, however, for the same money there is an amplifier for $995 that beats the stuffings out of both of them. A Vandersteen sounds totally different than a Kef, if you told Quest for Sound you like the Vandersteen sound it is doubtful you would prefer the Kef. Kef is a much more accurate speaker than a Vandersteen, I am not saying better, more accurate, and has better treble extension, which makes the Kef a more forward sound to the more laid back perspective which is the Vandersteen sound. Apples to Oranges. I would say that you did not get a good demo with the Kef, as the electronics were not as good as the Belles and a more accurate speaker will show you flaws in the electronics more easily. You should check out a pair of the Dail Opticons, the Dali offer a remarkable sound, they use a Ribbon super tweeter for detail coupled to a soft dome for wide dispersion and a smooth sound , they also use drivers which have very low distortion and use a new type of powdered magnet material. The Dali Opticon sounds more like a $4,000.00 speaker then a $2,500.00 set! They also have very good bass, and offer a similar warm perspective like the Vandersteens do. We have a fantastic system using a Nuprime Dac/preamp which sounds incredible and in our system you are getting a state of the art dac along with the preamp, couple that with one of their smaller amps and you have a system with a state of the art dac, a headphone amp, you can upgrade the amp and a stunning pair of Danish speakers that throw a gigantic soundstage. This entire system comes in at $4,795.00 add some good inexpensive cables and you have hit your price point. |
Lots of good advice, and I'll just say that if I had a 5K budget, I'd at least consider the wireless KEF LS50's, with a good source, such as the Sonore Microrendu (with good linear power supply), being fronted by Roon/Tidal on the PC. With lifetime Roon membership, this would still leave you about a $1000 for cables/accessories. Just saying, Don Ivey |
Provided that the speakers have been determined to be 'the ones' for ones taste and room, I do not have a problem pairing a $1500 speaker to a $2500 integrated amplifier (or visa versa for that matter, though i generally am less inclined to advise this ratio). That said, one issue here is that the working budget is $5000 which only leaves $1000 for source components and cables. Now this is doable, however depending on what source flexibility is desired. Spending 50% of ones $5000 budget on amplification can likely result in a 'weak link' elsewhere in the chain unless a CD player is the only source. Options in the digital domain have expanded greatly since the advent of the CD player. |
curious....... why would audio connection take you to a Vandersteen that exceeds your entire system budget by 2K, and then slide you all the way down to the least expensive floorstander Vandy makes? Why did they not let you listen to the 2CESigII? You need to listen to that speaker with the Belles........and you also need to audition a pair of Magnepan 1.7s before making your final decision....... |
After auditioning several speakers and considering the excellent advice on this thread, I've made my choice to purchase the Vandy 1ci speakers. After visiting Audio Doctor this weekend, I've decided to be more flexible to streaming. Dave showed me with a Tidal account and a USB connection, I can access a wealth of music for $20/ month. With that said, the amp I was considering, the Belles Aria, does not come with any digital inputs. Can you please recommend a good integrated amp that will: a.) be a good match to power the Vandy 1ci's b.) has the necessary inputs to do CD audio, streaming, and have the potential to do phono in the future? Thanks again to everyone that contributed to this thread. I really appreciate it. |
You have selected speakers, now focus on an integrated amplifier that plays well with them. I would suggest that you focus on finding a quality line level integrated amp and a used external DAC. A DAC with the appropriate inputs can serve for CD playback with a transport and also for streaming via computer or other device. As an example, Cambridge Audio makes a CD transport that retails for $500 (though I hear sells for less) which could be mated to a high quality used DAC that would sell under $1000, leaving you $2000+ for an integrated amplifier and cables. (finding a DAC for $500 would allow funds for the Belles). In addition to Belles, other integrated amps that would drive the Vandys are provided by NAD, Rouge Audio, Parasound, Arcam, Hagel, Vincent, and several others. Hopefully other will ad to this list. If you want a integrated amplifier that has it all check out the Parasound Halo. A review was published by Stereophile November 2015 and can be found online. Line level, digital, phono, minijack inputs are some of it's features. |
The Rouge Sphinx does not stream. The NAD 356 does have a dac but requires a computer hookup. the Hegel does but requires a computer running dlna software all of these options may be more than a beginning streaming person wants. You may want to check out a Naim uniqute which sounds fantastic and has a dac and streamer built in and has a fantastic app floor samples are around $2k Or a Cambridge Stream Magic which offers a great app, great dac, combined with a Cambridge integrated which would make an idea match for the Vandys or the new Nad C388 with blue sound card. We have both the Nad, Cambridge products and the Naim on display so maybe one of those pieces would work for you. If your heart is set on the Vandys then that is the speaker you should get. Sorry I missed you. Troy Audio Doctor www.audiodoctor.com 877 428 2873 |
If you liked the synergy of the Belles with the Vandy’s, then you’re making a severe mistake going away from it just to get an internal DAC (and probably a cheap one at that) I would do the Belles which you know matches beautifully to the Vandys and then do an Oppo Sonica DAC which is a very simple and easy to use way to get Tidal into the Belles for not a lot of money.......any internal solution will be very compromised in one area or another...... As to phono, don’t settle for an integrated solution.......there are so many great used phono stages on GON that have a very small form factor......try for a Lehmann Cube or a PS Audio.....it all depends on your cartridge.....but you can do that when the time comes......for now I’d say go with the Integrated that you KNOW has synergy with the Vandersteens and go with something you know has an excellent DAC to get Tidal into the Belles......add a companion Oppo disc spinner later...... Another great option at less cost would be the Auralic Aries Mini streamer.......which includes a DAC and a great app......It is available new for 499..... |
@stewart0722 "I would do the Belles which you know matches beautifully to the Vandys and then do an Oppo Sonica DAC which is a very simple and easy to use way to get Tidal into the Belles for not a lot of money.......any internal solution will be very compromised in one area or another......" Thanks for the great suggestion. I think I'll do just that! |
Vandersteen is good; also listen to the Maggie 1.7i buy a good amp that can drive the speakers well; buy a pre-amp with the control functionality you need or want, and a CD player or DAC (Oppo is good and inexpensive + there are many used ones) ignore the tweekers trying to get you to waste money on cables |
I am glad you went with the Vandies.(Being a Vandy Fanboy), and glad you met with Johnny. He is a great dealer and human being. The Belles is great. I am surprised he didn't connect the Ayre amps. I know you are on a budget, but if you can score a Belles or Ayre integrated used, you would be way ahead of the pack. Another way to go is with McCormack, Steve McCormack runs Vandy's with his amps, so they make a good combo. Plus, you can have them upgraded. As far a streaming goes, I auditioned the Ayre Codex at Audioconnection and have to say it is one heck of a DAC for the money, especially used. Otherwise, I would suggest a Schiit Gungnir or Yggy. I own the Bifrost Multibit and Modi, but the Gungy is much better, though the others are no slouches considering how inexpensive they are. Lastly, if you can get a system using balanced connectors, you will be doing yourself a favor. Balanced interconnects won't need to be as costly as RCA, since they hardly influence sound quality. (Ask Ralph at Atmasphere). I am sure Johnny can recommend some AQ speaker cables. Actually, let me know if you can use some AQ Rockefeller, I have an extra 25 foot cable now that I moved to monoblocks. All you need to do is have AQ reterminate them- which Johnny can facilitate. HTH Bob |
Here’s an alternative suggestion from a bottom up (bass reproduction) perspective vs. the source/amp first viewpoint: Get 1 (or 2) SVS SB12-NSD subwoofers. Currently at $399 each, shipped. 45 day trial period with return shipping included. 5 year unconditional warranty. The real value of this somewhat reversed approach - is that you could then focus on any amp/speaker combo best matches SONICALLY, without worrying (too much) about how the amp will ’drive’ the speakers - because you have relieved the amp of bass duties. A decent sub will also make your midrange and highs sound better as well. You could even consider single ended tubes and high efficiency designs at that point. Another integrated amp I did not hear above that I would recommend you consider is a Jolida tube integrated. Decent as a low/mid budget alternative. Or a Wyred4Sound M-Int for higher (class D) power. If you like the Vandersteen house sound, and don’t mind older/used, you could get into these 2CEs for around a $1000. http://www.tmraudio.com/product/tj-791. As an alternative, try to listen to the new Elac speakers designed by Andrew Jones. Cables - Belden 8402 or WE or Duelund 16 guage. Finally, consider adding a network player/streamer to expand your access to content. Good luck and have fun! |
So a quick update... I have placed an order for the following: - Vandersteen 1ci speakers To start I’ll be using an existing Kenwood CD player with an optical line out into the Rotel and also a PC connected via USB w/ Tidal. I’m super excited and can’t thank this forum enough for all the great commentary and suggestions. I literally knew nothing about this stuff a month ago and feel like I made informed decisions based on advice and due diligence. Many thanks to the great folks at Quest for Sound, Dave and Troy from Audio Doctors, and of course Johnny R. from Audio Connection. Cheers, |
You did well my friend. Please get back to us once system is set up in your room and you have spent some time with it. I believe you made some wise choices all around. I wasn't sure if you intended on using a computer for streaming and did not know you had a player with digital out. Knowing that I would have more strongly suggested you purchase a DAC. That is one thing about a DAC with appropriate inputs, it can serve two sources. I am not sure if I mentioned this on your thread but I also like to spin a disc, even though I rip my CDa as files onto my MAC mini computer. Enjoy the music! |
Instead of recommending any particular brands, I would just offer that you divide the money up to best effect. Spend $2k on speakers, if they are $1500 to $1800, or $2200 no big deal. But buy speakers to fit the room. Wires included in this price. Start with simple wires, this is something you can upgrade later. Buy a separate amp and praamp, I've always found best results with separates, so glad the day I went with separates. Spend about $2k on the both. And include any cables in that price, no need to buy any exotic wires just yet, just something nice for $100. That leaves you a grand to spend on a nice CD player! And wires, again, just something nice, no need to spend equal amounts on wires and some folks do, anything is better than the skinny throw away RCA's they put in the box. Decent tuners can be had for a few hundred bucks, no need to go crazy here, but if you like background music a radio is nice. And i strongly suggest buying it all used. My entire system was built from used gear, and it would have cost me 3 times as much to buy it new, you get a lot more bang for the buck used. Of course you don't get to audition your gear, or hear it in your own system before buying. But, if any of it turns out to be objectionable, just resell it and try again. Personally, with reading online reviews and knowledge gained from these forums, I've made good choices and have not had to retry very often, only once I replaced an amp I wasn't happy with, no big deal really, considering the money I've saved. |
YMMV, of course, but Vandersteen 1Cs were my first real hi-fi speakers. While they sounded good at the dealer, they never really worked in my home. I added subwoofers, replaced my amp, preamp (with a tubed preamp), wires and digital front end. I got improvements along the way, but I never had it where I wanted to just sit and listen. There was always as sense of strain, of congestion, at high volumes, and too much grit in the upper-mid/lower-treble range. About seven years ago I upgraded to Ohm Walsh 2000s and have never looked back. I now look forward to long, fatugue-free listening sessions. My take away from this is always, ALWAYS, insist on a home audition for any speakers you are considering. Hear how they sound in your home, with your gear, with your music, and without a dealer hovering behind you telling you how great the sound is. Hearing how they sound at the shop is of very limited value. Audio Conection is a wonderful dealer. But, if you are in NJ, let me add a few B&M stores in NJ worth checking out: Care Audio in Edison The Art of Sound in Lambertville Distinctive Stereo in River Vale Audio Video Synergy in Clinton Bravo Audio/Video in Bernardsville And if you are in NJ, I would invite you to check out the New Jersey Audio Society. Joining this club will give you a chance to hear all sorts of gear, and speakers, at all price levels, at retailers and in people's homes. www.njaudiosociety.com |
Hey Bondmanp, why no mention of the Audio Doctor in Jersey City or Audio Nexus in Summit or CSA Audio in Monclair? Many years ago I visited CSA Audio and they were a nice dealer heard some Wilsons and Totems. Was in Summit for a photo shoot and popped into Nexus. Have you ever been to the Audio Doctor showroom, very impressive store, huge selection of top high end brands, four sound rooms and the owner is very nice and really knows his stuff. Went in to Bravo they didn't seem like a high end audio store at all I saw a big home theater there and almost nothing else, do they have some room I was missing? |
you have a good system on order and can now sit back and enjoy listening next thing is to address your source material - the Redbook CD std. will be fine but be sure you have the best recording/mastering chain for things you care about in general, CDs released within a few years of the beginning of the CD std. (say the 1980s) will be of poor quality similar concerns apply for streaming... |
@mdelrossi1 Yes, came in well under my 5k budget. I'll probably order a few panels from GIK. @bondmanp Thanks for the great suggestions. Will def. check them out! I didn't realize I had The Art of Sound so close to me in Lambertville. 15 min. down the road. @gdnrbob Thanks! @kuppe38 Agreed. Audio Doctors has very impressive showrooms! @randy-11 Thanks. That's exactly what I intend to do..... |
@kuppe38 - I was just making a short list off the top of my head of dealers I have visited recently. I actually bought my Vandersteens from Audio Nexus (in 2000), as well as my first decent CD player. I really liked the way I was treated there. AFAIK, however, I don't think they are Vandersteen dealers at this time. Bravo A/V is custom install oriented, but Tom is very knowledgable about audio and carries some great product lines. I like his pragmatic, low-key approach to sales. CSA I have never been to, but they do carry a lot of nice lines. Audio Doctor is also worth a visit, I have been there as well. @audionoobie - Our audio society is being hosted by The Art of Sound on Sunday, March 19th, at 2:00 p.m. Feel free to stop by, listen to some tunes, and have a bite to eat. |
You have to decide / listen for your self what kind of sound you want: kef ls50 wireless (simple one box system) if you buy new used: neumann kh120 + mytek brooklyn + sonore microrendu (simplicity, resale value) magnepan mg12 + 2 crown xls 1500 mono blocks + Mytek Brooklyn Dac + sonore microrendu (for speed, coherence, resolution) omega or tekton high efficiency speakers + coincident 34se + Mytek brooklyn + sonore microrendu (for immediacy, realism, imaging) Room treatment and speaker positioning is essential (you won't get good performance with a BMW on sand or ice. You need a treated surface...) solid core Cables are the best - they don't mess with timing. Dnm, VOVOX, clearday |
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