Rok, you completed missed the thrust of what I was saying re the influence of the native music on the "Hollywoodization" of it on soundtracks. Also, interesting that you suggest we "do the math" since math is an important element in the building blocks of any music and is so at a level that goes to the key point you missed. What distinguishes most a native music from a commercialized (Hollywood) version is not wether the music is played on native instruments vs Western orchestral instruments; instead, it is WHAT is played by any of those instruments. In the example I gave it is the use of (among other things) minor pentatonic scales like the Native Americans used. THAT is what gives the music it's unique flavor kore than anything; that's the influence. Similar relationship in the case of jazz. Anyway....
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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O-10, I agree with much of what you wrote about Cuba; although, in at least one case, for possibly different reasons. After many years of being a supporter of the embargo I came to support to support the lifting of the embargo several years ago; here's why: The idea that the average Cuban would benefit greatly from the lifting of the embargo is partly a myth. There is no question that there would be some benefit to the average Cuban; but; it is, in fact and as is usually the case in Communist countries, the elite that see the real benefit. Look at the present situation where Cuba has trade relationships with much of the world (except the US) and Cubans still have an incredibly low standard of living. They experience a great deal of hardship, not to mention political oppression. Even medical care is, in spite of the hype, very limited; but, very limited for everyone, unless you have the money (elite). The reason that I came to support the lifting of the embargo is that the move would take away one of the last (possibly the last) excuse that the regime has for why that system does not work; IOW, it would no longer be the US's fault. There is no question that change will come to Cuba. However, we have been waiting for a change for more years than anyone imagined. Sadly there are many people in power there with a vested interest in the status quo, and a system in place that will make change very difficult and probably not a reality for many years to come. |
I agree that lifting the embargo would have a minimal effect for the majority of the Cuban population. I was fortunate to have lived with a very lovely Cuban lady for over 6 years, she came over during the Mariel boatlift (a marielita!). During that time her family embraced me and I learned quite a bit from the Cuban perspective. An interesting point is that while it may be called communism, in truth, it's nothing but a dictatorship. While Fidel has remarkably lived longer than most, Raul, his brother and successor also seems to be in for the long haul. The economic landscape has irretrievably changed for Cuba. When Castro took over, the country was on the brink of becoming a major player with major U.S. companies setting up shop there and it's ports being considered as a major gateway to Central & South America. Castro changed all that, and now I doubt the companies would move back there and the import/export business has found a new outlet in S. Fla. Add to this the fact that there's at least one, maybe two generations of Cubans who have been born under Castro's rule, they know of no other system! If the average Cuban wasn't willing to fight for change before, they're even less prone to do so now. The war crimes committed under Castro's rule, from the pillaging of the nations wealth to the human rights atrocities, the likes of which remain largely unknown to most Americans, warrant nothing less than the hangman's noose for the Castro brothers! Whew! Bet you guys'll be glad to get back to some Jazz talk!;) |
You guys had me so confused I had to reach for my man Hugh Masekela. Then one thing led to another. I don't know who influenced who, just good stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Caj_4DPnTc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87S_wbCsNbQ I recommend: "The Best of Hugh Masekela". Every track a winner!! I also learned that Vasco Da Gama was not a friend on mine. I think. Cheers |
****An interesting point is that while it may be called communism, in truth, it's nothing but a dictatorship**** Interesting indeed; a very important distinction and absolutely correct. The term "Communism" sometimes conjures up, in the minds of those without first hand experience or deep knowledge of it, very romanticized notions of what it is really like. The injustice and brutality of it hides behind the theoretical idea of what it can be or is supposed to be; something that it never turns out to be, if history is any indication. How both ironic and fitting, in the context of this thread, to be discussing Cuban music and politics when jazz was (and is still to a degree) outlawed in Cuba. One of the greatest Cuban bands in recent times, "Iraquere", came to be as a facade supported by the Cuban government to show the world that it did not, in fact, suppress artistic expression. The government "allowed" jazz to be played; but, only a little. Some of its members (Paquito D'Rivera, Chucho Valdez, Arturo Sandoval) left the group or defected to the US because they wanted to play more jazz, but were not allowed. Here are a young Paquito, Arturo and Chucho while still in the band: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X1TvtB0GoQ0 |
Had to add this! The underrated Carlos Ward. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZqkPnQ_41U Should "The Wedding" be a standard? Maybe just a song I like. |
Acman3: Two excellent clips. Awesome sax solo. What is the correct custom for applause at a Jazz performance? Do players expect applause after their solos? I have Abdullah Ibrahim's latest CD, 'Mukashi' on my to buy list. I have always liked him. From back in his 'Dollar Brand' days. Can anyone speak about Sonny Rollin's 'artistic impasse' of 1959-62? It is mentioned is a review of his 'The Contemporary Leader' CD in the lastest BBC Music magazine. Any details? Cheers |
In 1959, at the height of his career, Sonny took three years off performing and recording to (are you ready for this?) .......practice the saxophone because he felt he had a lot more to learn. This goes back to an early discussion on this thread during which the mistaken idea was posed that jazz musicians don't practice and don't study the N&B's. The image of Sonny practicing on the Williamsburg Bridge (where he went daily for hours and connects Manhattan and Brooklyn) is established in jazz lore. At age 83, Sonny still practices 3 hours every day. |
****What is the correct custom for applause at a Jazz performance? Do players expect applause after their solos? **** Always nice to get applause after a solo. Expected? If the solo is good, sure; but a knowledgable audience knows to not "step on the following solo", so the applause may be brief or absent. The player knows that and would not mind if the applause for his solo is brief or absent in that case. Also, it's a drag when some in the audience can't follow the form of the tune during a solo and applaud before the chorus is over, thinking that the solo is over when it's really just a pause in the action. |
A professional jazz musician who lived with me for one entire summer, never practiced during that summer. He had been playing keyboards since he was a child in church, and his mother was an organist. Playing three gigs a week was practice enough, according to me. I didn't have an organ or piano, so he couldn't practice. I have his records, and he played better that summer than during any time in his life. Unfortunately, that wasn't recorded, and it was much different than any of the records I have. Since "Bird" practiced I'm sure jazz musicians practice, his case was unique. Back on the track; Cuba's music is like a Cuban history book if you know how to read it. Even Ricky Ricardo, a fictional character on "I love Lucy", is part of the US, and Cuba's history, if you know how to read it. Cuba's present music is an unfolding event that's a reflection of "The new Cuba", which is partially why I'm so interested in this "new music". As everyone knows by now, although I'm a fossil who likes fossil music, this doesn't stop me from enjoying and appreciating new music, especially that from Cuba. I'm also enjoying these discussions. Enjoy the music. |
A professional jazz musician who lived with me for one entire summer, never practiced during that summer. He had been playing keyboards since he was a child in church, and his mother was an organist. Playing three gigs a week was practice enough, according to me. I didn't have an organ or piano, so he couldn't practice. I have his records, and he played better that summer than during any time in his life. Unfortunately, that wasn't recorded, and it was much different than any of the records I have. Since "Bird" practiced I'm sure jazz musicians practice, his case was unique. Back on the track; Cuba's music is like a Cuban history book if you know how to read it. Even Ricky Ricardo, a fictional character on "I love Lucy", is part of the US, and Cuba's history, if you know how to read it. Cuba's present music is an unfolding event that's a reflection of "The new Cuba", which is partially why I'm so interested in this "new music". As everyone knows by now, although I'm a fossil who likes fossil music, this doesn't stop me from enjoying and appreciating new music, especially that from Cuba. I'm also enjoying these discussions. Enjoy the music. |
Fascinating story. The clip gives the impression she was in Denmark when the Germans invaded and was arrested and put in a concentration camp. Others accounts say she was arrested by the Danes and kept in a Danish Prison. The facts: She was arrested in 1941 while on tour in Denmark. Denmark had been under German contrrol since around May of 1940. Along with France and all the Low Countries. That means, if she was touring in Europe, in 1941, she was touring in German occupied Europe. When Hitler Declared war on the US on the 11th of Dec 1941, she immediately became an enemy alien. Was later exchanged in 1942 as part of a prisoner exchange. There is that 'agenda' thingy again. Louis Armstrong always called her the world's second best Trumpet player! :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6e7ye-fiJA Cheers |
Rok, thank you for that piece of fascinating history on Valaida Snow that I never even heard of, which is something this aficionado finds hard to believe; that I never heard of it I mean. Please continue with fantastic, almost unknown people and events of jazz history that have probably been forgotten. Enjoy the music. |
O-10: This may be representive of the Jazz scene within Cuba. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnoDOSv7_o The music being played inside Cuba should be the most authentic Cuban Jazz being played today. Since The Frogman says the regime frowns on Jazz, there might not be that much NEW, to discover. Except the expatriates. Cheers |
O-10: I think this is in Cuba. If it is not, she's still a Fox and worth seeing and hearing. Even for fossils. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9VwvjZh_DQ Cheers |
Rok, fossils still like to look at foxes; although I noticed the audience was quietest when she was just moving and not singing. Well folks, apparently it's time to get back to our regularly scheduled program, unless someone has more to add on Cuba. Rok, am I ever glad I still have my Miriam Makeba records. When I tried to replace them with CD's, I found they don't exist. Her best records were made about the time she made that clip. My research person told me some were only released in Europe, and are very expensive; I didn't ask, "How expensive"? If anyone has anything to add to the Cuban dialogue, fine, otherwise we'll get back on the tracks. Enjoy the music. |
****Since The Frogman says the regime frowns on Jazz, there might not be that much NEW, to discover. Except the expatriates.**** To put it in perspective: it is illegal in Cuba to listen to American radio stations. Cubans can tune in to Miami based radio stations a mere 90 miles away, but they have to do it in secret and risk repercussions if caught. Now, rest assured, there is some jazz (real jazz, not Latin jazz) being played in Cuba, but you won't find it in the clubs and certainly not on youtube; big no-no. As far as Latin-jazz goes there is plenty of it there of the type that we hear here and has been posted; but, that is not the problem. Some of the expatriates left Cuba because they wanted to play JAZZ; not Latin-jazz and not Latin-jazz that was "sanctioned" by the government. Note that the tune being played and sung by the bar band in your clip (yes, that is in Cuba) is a Bossa-nova; I doubt that "It Don't Mean A Thing If....." is on their song list. |
Not Cuban, but, I own them and they are both great. Good music to listen to, while searching the youtubes for the elusive NEW Cuban. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNWZ0pQR7ww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XDGIT-djGo Cheers |
No problem moving on, but IMO there is MUCH more to add; it would be a mistake to think that there is no more new Cuban music worth exploring. Much of it may not be jazz (or even Latin Jazz; whatever that is) as we may think of it, but the musical heritage of Cuba is huge and practically inexhaustible. The Fox in the video of the bar band singing Girl From Ipanema is an OK singer, but it would be a shame to end the discussion of new Cuban music with that; nothing new about that music, and not a particularly good performance. I think this is much more representative of the kind of creativity that can be found in Cuba (worth noting is that in Cuban music it is very difficult to separate the dance from the music): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJMTA3Ay5FI |
For Frogman, and other adventurous souls who like "free jazz". "John Coltrane offering, live at Temple University", is the title; this is the frenetic expression of how much more Coltrane had to say on "My Favorite Things". This fits the description of the live set I went to, and it contains 2 CD's. With 45 minutes of "My Favorite Things", they probably needed 3 CD's, but maybe 2 was sufficient. I haven't tried, but I doubt if we can get a sample on "you tube", so somebody will have to buy and review "Offering" for the rest of us, and I nominate "Frogman". Since no one could maintain interest in Cuba, we can move on and keep Cuba on the sidelines. Enjoy the music. |
This seems like an appropriate posting. http://www.jazz24.org/2014/04/song-day-john-coltrane-my-favorite-things/ It was clear Trane was searching for something, although audiences sometimes couldn’t figure out what. He was known to play 20- to 30-minute solos, which often left people scratching their heads, at best, and running for the doors at worst. I read a story about Coltrane saying to Miles, “I don’t know how to end my solos,” and Miles responding, “Take the horn out your mouth.” This text was taken from the article in the clip. Don't you just love Miles' quip! Cheers |
How about a little "Dr. John" with his gri gri. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4J8VrprrGE The doctor got a lot of good stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWvdO3l4_P8 Is this a change of pace or what? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb8DlC3utYE Enjoy the music. |
Should these tunes have gotten the glory instead?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAfYg8haw1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEHUAMW5JD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87wul09cuA Cheers |
O-10 'Gris Gris' has been in my Amazon cart forever. I will order it now. It's supposed to be one of his best. This guy never makes a clunker. Marie Laveau is my favorite. I have it on this CD. Along with several other gems, such as the Monkey! Truth spoken here!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWUb5AR7W8M Cheers |
We have discussed almost every genre of music and type of musician there is except one; that's a jazz musician who became primarily a classical musician. Wynton Marsalis doesn't quite fit that bill because he's still primarily a jazz musician. Andre Previn is the only musician who fits. In the mid-to-late 1950s, and more recently, Previn toured and recorded as a jazz pianist. In the 1950s, mainly recording for Contemporary Records, he worked with J.J. Johnson, Shelly Manne, Leroy Vinnegar, Benny Carter, and others. An album he recorded with Manne and Vinnegar of songs from My Fair Lady was a best-seller (see My Fair Lady (Shelly Manne album)). As a solo jazz pianist, Previn largely devoted himself to interpreting the works of major songwriters such as Jerome Kern (recorded in 1959), Frederick Loewe, Vernon Duke (recorded in 1958), and Harold Arlen (recorded in 1960). Previn made two albums with Dinah Shore as arranger, conductor, and accompanist in 1960, and another, "Duet", with Doris Day in 1961. He made appearances on The Ford Show, Starring Tennessee Ernie Ford as well as The Dinah Shore Chevy Show. He collaborated with Julie Andrews on a collection of Christmas carols in 1966, focusing on rarely heard carols. This popular album has been reissued many times over the years and is now available on CD. His main influences as a jazz pianist include Art Tatum, Hank Jones, Oscar Peterson, and Horace Silver. Previn's more recent work also shows the influence of Bill Evans. Previn has recorded solo classical piano compositions by Mozart, Gershwin, Poulenc, Shostakovich, an album for RCA with violinist Erick Friedman of the Franck and Debussy violin sonatas, and many chamber works for piano. In 1967, Previn succeeded John Barbirolli as music director of the Houston Symphony Orchestra. In 1968, he began his tenure as principal conductor of the London Symphony Orchestra , serving in that post until 1979. During his tenure, he and the appeared on the BBC Television programme André Previn's Music Night. From 1976 to 1984, he was music director of the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and, in turn, had another television series with the entitled Previn and the Pittsburgh. He was also principal conductor of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra from 1985 to 1988. "Like Young" is my favorite by Previn, and I'll present two versions; a purely instrumental and a vocal. The vocal gives the time away by the language; it was "beatnik", they're the old hippys before the new hippys, "can you dig it". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKzTMr1M5E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCZxvAG5wHg Enjoy the music. |
Today's Surprise!! World Saxophone Quartet -- DANCES AND BALLARDS Amazing!! I could not believe how much I enjoyed this. Every track a winner. This is supposed to be Avant-Garde / Free Jazz. This is the best example of that genre I have ever heard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ60abjwCPQ WSQ, another group I have 'Grown into'. Purchased several albums / CDs by WSQ based on positive reviews in "Stereo Review". They, SR, never steered me wrong. Sooner or Later, they were always proved right!! Cheers |
Kleiber was voted Best Conductor ever, by one classical magazine. I don't remember if the vote was by the Editorial staff or the readers. I guess you could say he had a 'flowing' style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfbLpijCN3M Cheers |
O-10: I once told you computers don't go on the fritz these days. Well, computers might not, but internet providers certainly do. Just got back online. Previn: Very nice clips. I love that type of playing. Like a slightly less bombastic version of Oscar. I have several Classical pieces with him as conductor or accompanist. At least one with his wife, the great German violinist, Anne-Sophie Mutter. I also have the DVD of "Christmas at Carnegie Hall" with Battle, von Sade and Wynton. He conducts the Orchestra. Towards the end of the concert, they gather around his piano for some solo singing of Jazzy Christmas tunes. The look of Previn's face said it all. This was the part he had been waiting for all night. The good stuff!! I think Jazz might still be his first love. I only have one Jazz CD with him as leader. "After Hours" with Joe Pass and Ray Brown. It is excellent. If you like Previn, you gotta have this one! The man is a prime example of what is meant by the phrase, 'accomplished musician'. Any genre he can not only play, but excel at playing. "After Hours" was his first Jazz recording in 27 years. You couldn't tell. Here is a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8KSBxVoF2M There are several more from this CD on youtube. |
O-10: Today's Listen: Lee Morgan -- CORNBREAD All the tracks are great. With this line-up, they should be. This one, "Ceora", is mo' better great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECw3WAX41OA Cheers |
Rok, I went back to Valaida Snow and found some real good entertainment; singing and dancing from the 40's, when life was a lot simpler. This was a time when the working man could find a job, all he had to do was get to Chicago or Detroit, and it also helped the small business man. I could look at this all day long, just bounce around and have a good time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn3lJK2Egwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14QEoEIvUuk Enjoy the music |
Today's Listen: Chick Corea -- SOLO PIANO STANDARDS Highly recommended. Could not find a youtube of the CD. I did find a youtube of my favorite selection from the Corea CD, which is also the theme from my favorite movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HtHEgINHO0 Cheers |
O-10, "The Offering" will not be available until the end of Nov; 9/24, I believe, his 88th birthday. I may accept that nomination; maybe :-). It will be available on vinyl. Today's surprise: ****Today's Surprise!! World Saxophone Quartet -- DANCES AND BALLARDS**** First Stravinsky, now WSQ. See what happens when you hang out with the wrong crowd? :-) Seriously, not the most avante-garde "avante-garde" music by a long shot, but pretty adventurous stuff. That particular clip starts out pretty "inside" and then takes off. I am very partial to the sound of a saxophone quartet. It can be a thing of beauty particularly playing Bach where it can sound remarkably like an organ. I don't know if I can stand all this agreement: Kleiber. Clearly a subjective matter to a great extent, but without a doubt one of the very best. Perhaps the best. His Beethoven 5th is unparalleled. Corea. Beautiful record from a player with a very distinctive sound and sense of swing. "Ceora". One of my favorite tunes and one with sentimental value. One of the very first I learned after starting to play the saxophone as a kid; after first starting to play classical clarinet. So, in reality, while I never left jazz nor classical, a more accurate description is that I went back to classical. Previn. What can one add to what has already been said about him? Amazing musician and true giant; up there with the likes of Leonard Bernstein as an example of great versatility at an extremely high level. I agree with all that has been said about his playing; I particularly like the "less bombastic Oscar" comment. There have been a few, somewhat lower profile musicians who have "left jazz" to focus on classical. Two that come to mind are: Larry Combs, recently retired principal clarinetist with the Chicago Symphony who is (was) also a fine jazz saxophonist and former member of Chuck Mangione's jazz quintet; and Ron Reuben, recently retired bass clarinetist with the Philadelphia Orchestra. For the geeks: The opening clarinet solo in "Rhapsody" is, without a doubt, one of the classic "tests" of any serious clarinet player's mettle; right up there with a jazz player's ability to play over the changes to Trane's "Giant Steps". To be able to play the famous "s(h)mear" with great style and still sound controlled and not like one is about to "fall off the tracks" is incredibly difficult. Here is my favorite performance of that solo by the aforementioned Larry Combs in possibly the best recorded version of this great piece (in its original "jazz-band" version). Is it a coincidence that it's a great version of the solo and that Combs is also a jazz player? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KPL19IgsEHc&list=PLIoTSU58PJgr7GVXju5V-hr9RgHWX9Uve |
O-10: Great clip of Valaida singing and playing with the dancers. Those guys had some great moves. Does wearing baggy pants help with the overall effect? Reminds of me those Latin guys dancing in baggy suits. Gotta love it. The Mills brothers are played every week down here on the local PBS station. Great singers. They were just cutting the fool on this clip. Did you notice the shoes the 'country gals' were wearing? I had always assumed Pops was joking, with his comments on sister Vallaida. After hearing her sing and play, maybe not. Could Pops have been worried?.... Naw! What am I thinking. :) Cheers |
Gershwin: Wonderful piece. I have a couple CDs of Previn and the LSO, playing the same pieces. 'Rhapsody in Blue', just screams "Broadway"! It is what we think of when we think of NYC. Sadly, we can't buy CDs by orchestras the likes of Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. 99% of all my classical is by European Orchestra. :( Another TEST, is for flute players, playing 'William Tell'. Cheers |
Frogman, that clarinet solo is so beautiful, but short, that I repeated it several times in order to fully appreciate it. In Regard to "Offering", without a doubt it wouldn't be to my taste, or Rok's. Normally I wouldn't take the liberty of speaking for Rok, but this is one time I'll take that chance; from the description, and my memory, the only people in the audience, who liked those 35 extra minutes of "My Favorite Things", were musicians. As I recall, neither McCoy Tyner or Elvin Jones were too pleased, I judged that by the expressions on their faces and they way the quit even attempting to follow "Trane" on his flight to who knew where, (that's Trane) and chose to remain on solid ground. Since you're a musician, you might have a completely different take on "Offering". Enjoy the music. |
Today's Listen: Dorothy Donegan -- LIVE AT THE WIDDER BAR Awesome! Did someone mention 'Bombastic'? I think she, and Chucho had the same music teacher!! Once again, I could not find a Youtube of the CD, but this clip is typical of the content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQpJ8WP6_6c From back in the day. She had a long career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtMey-dcGPE Cheer |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JacX51ihws I will have to read/listen to the last week and catch up, but this band is good! |