How Do You Learn?

Yes or course read all and a lot, but one... Listen!

by not taking any advice from anyone on these forums.  Then building and repairing equipment where you can try out different parts to learn what makes the sound sound the way it does.

by not taking any advice from anyone on these forums. Then building and repairing equipment where you can try out different parts to learn what makes the sound sound the way it does.

You are right on the spot for the first sentence!

 But if i had listened to you only  and only repair myself my amplifier or speaker i would had never experimented and used acoustic powerful method....

Then listen to "almost"  nobody...Listen and experiment....

Read acoustic and experiment....

I apologize but i could not resist to your post appeal.....

My best to you....

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Don’t mess with mahgister and his acoustic POWERFUL methods. Cardinal rule.

I also could not resist

Regards

Great point!
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Remember though that it is very important to create a balance between the marketing publicity and the conditioned urge to upgrade like sheep behind the audio magazine and sound science...

Acoustic embeddings controls is not publicity...

Embed everything right bbefore upgrading.... Is a cardinal rule....Thanks for this good choice of word.....

even my great and legendary Sensei Chihiro Nakao has himself a sensei….

i find those consciously without,  are mostly on an ego trip….sail on….

even my great and legendary Sensei Chihiro Nakao has himself a sensei….

i find those consciously without,  are mostly on an ego trip….sail on….

 The faculty to admire is linked to our capacity to higher perception of phenomenon and values...

It humble ourself and put us at work...

 Thanks for this great reminder tomic60.....

What was the question?

If you are still looking for a dim light dabel have you tried a lava lamp?

I will recommend salt lamp instead ...

In addition to be also like lava lamp, an interesting looking appearence, they have an audible effect on sound...Ionization or crystal effect, or the two together, i dont know...A chinese audiophile group made the same observation about sound effect than me.... I am no more the only one fool...

But it is not a superlative change for sure but anyway a subtle very audible change for the better.... Not unlike my 3 ionizers...I never speak about them here because too much "brain dead scientism"....I like the orange diffusive light a lot, and the effect on sound is welcome...For peanuts cost... They are under my desk not too far from the speakers and between them, and the third is just beside one speaker....
I like orange color.... It have a soothing effect on soul for me...

I listen music with half the time eyes open, because sound is different not better though, just different, if the eyes are closed or opened but in the darker orange light...

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«Bach is orange color»-Groucho Marx 🤓

«Is Hendrix zebra white/blue ?»-Harpo Marx in heaven  

 I was fortunate to have a patient man train me for a bit during my first few weeks at Mountain Bell. He was an old bugger named Bud Wheeler. A bit of an old hillbilly, 'cept when you got to know him. One day I came into the crew room to show Bud my new NASA approved space pen ($25). I says, "Look Bud, this pen can write upside down, under water, through grease, in freezing weather or hot on most any surface." He replies, "Yah Greg, I got one of those." I said, "No Bud, you can only get these through a special purchase." I was pretty sure that he just misunderstood me. Bud pulled from his overalls, from the front top pocket, a yellow #2 pencil. "See he says, It writes upside down or not, under water, through grease, and in any temperature too." 

 And THATS how I learn.

Such a great thread!

Thank you all who have shared so personally.

When I was in film school, we had a prof who had an amazing approach to teaching.

I forget the context this bit came out in class, but here goes.

(this relates to MC’s thoughts on listening and learning how to hear)

The discussion went something like this. Cave drawings were outlines. The idea he presented (which was not his, but from others research) argued that as primitive beings, we saw the world as outlines. These outline drawings became solids at a point. The solids eventually became detailed. Visual representation was up until this point depicting a 2 dimensional world. Then perspective (forgive the pun) came into the picture. The development of artificial “sight”, follows the exact same trajectory. Edge detection, solid/form detection, detail detection and finally perspective.

The theory goes something like this. As primitive beings, it is speculated that we could only see edges. Then someone drew solid forms, and we learned to see solids. Then details and finally perspective. The theory goes that we learned to see in a more complex way, we didn’t always have access to the full spectrum we now have. Artificial object detection has followed the same path.

So, being able to see was an evolved process. 
This is where I spin that to audio.

Here’s the difference between sight and sound. Prior to recorded/reproduced sound, our biological hearing abilities evolved to where they needed to be. Meaning, we only need to be able to hear so much to be able to survive. Recorded sound is new. Recorded images, go waaaaaay back.

So, now that we can record and reproduce sounds in a manner, and of a quality beyond what we can currently “hear”, that doesn’t mean that what we currently hear is actually the limit of what our ears are capable of identifying. As we develop new technologies, and as we continue to live with the technologies we currently have access to, our hearing, like our vision will continue to evolve. We are limited biologically by the demands placed on our hearing

 That happened in real time for me btw, I never made that correlation before.

Thanks perkri....

Really great post indeed.....

@chorus
YOUR ears are the best on determining what YOU like. If you cannot obtain your desired component to try in your own system before you purchase, then it’s advisable to sift through reviews, taking into account their audio chains and their experience in reviewing other components, and component to component comparisons, is likely the best option to help you decide if you’d like to roll the dice and purchase like many of us here. If you get enough reviews saying similar things, then chances are that you’ll likely get the same results in your audio chain provided that your audio chain is a good match- nothing is guaranteed.

Buying used may be a good option to demo, then you can sell if unsatisfactory with hopefully minimum net cash outlay.

Some have misinterpreted the intent of this post.

I ask for one source to be suggested because if everyone submits
his or her favorite place to learn then I can assemble a fresh list
for myself. 

It is not that I think one source is all that a person needs.

So far I see I have several new things to look into.

Thanks to all who contributed!

@nonoise Thanks for the link.