How competitive are you with your system?


Do you try to rank your system with others’?    
Or are you content with enjoying your rig for what it is?

rvpiano

Money??? We don't need no stinkin' money.

For a couple cents worth of filament, I can 3D print spacers to go between the Heil reflectors and the bodies that will create a greater difference in sound than $$$ cables.

As it is, I just push the reflectors in tight and if you try to pull them back out a hair (and I do mean a hair) you don't necessarily get the spacing consistent top to bottom and between the left and right speaker.  This will take care of that.

And if I don't like what the spacing does, it's only a couple cents more to try it again at a bit different distance.

For me, this is what makes it a hobby as well as a source of relaxation.

@toddalin Agree. Tweaking and experimenting with what you have around to improve sound is a fun part of the hobby. I like building systems and I usually start with an idea in my head and then challenge myself to make it happen. The new systems concepts usually involve doing things smarter, against the grain, and counter the mainstream high end audio culture. When I started in this hobby in the 1980’s the audio scene was more like the DIY Audio Community and I find it hard to relate to what it has become, so many clueless participants with more money than brains who think they can achieve great sound by just paying for it. These days I feel more at home at DIYAudio and with custom built one-off and one-of a-kind components and systems than commercial offerings. I better stop ranting.

@mihorn   Sorry, but I do not hear depth or really image precision on your videos. Probably caused by the playback through my desktop system.

The problem with piano recordings is that many are too wide to be realistic.  I don’t know of any pianos that are 8 feet and wider.

But it is good for checking intonation and clarity.

https://youtu.be/_kyQEa-QUd8

1MM spacers.  As I noted, takes out upper midrange and adds to the high end..., maybe a bit too much.  As I said, everything is a compromise.  I’ll probably try 0.6MM.

https://youtu.be/_kyQEa-QUd8

A nice thing about YouTube is that you can go back and compare other versions of what you’ve been working on as a point of reference.

I did this one last year, probably when I put the Mundorfs on the Heils.  But other mods since (in the newer recording) seem to have helped with clarity and intonation a bit.  There also seems to be a bit more "attack" on the piano.

I think that I got the 3D printer and did the Heil waveguides, changed to the Spragues on the 18s, and changed some values around just a bit, for the current recording.  And of course, added the spacers.  Sure one can do this on their own computer without YT, but where’s the fun in that?

Prior version:

https://youtu.be/axP5o643kfI

This sounds really good. Very nice!

Agree. In PC, only one video can play at the time. In YT, 2 or 3 videos can open simultaneously that comparison is more accurate. Alex/WTA

toddalin     https://youtu.be/_kyQEa-QUd8

A nice thing about YouTube is that you can go back and compare other versions of what you’ve been working on as a point of reference.

 

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I used to think about the competitive nature of my audio journey when I was young. At 71 I couldn’t care less. I enjoy what I have and do not think I need anything else except an upgraded streamer set up. Everyone who listens to my system walks always stunned which means only that I am on the right path but each ear is different. My system suits my ears perfectly. I enjoy many other systems I listen to. Less refined and less expensive to those that cost wise way out pace mine. That being said at the end of the day all that matters is do you enjoy what you have and does. It leave you feel fulfilled musically.

I like what Corey Greenberg said in  a Sterophile review many years ago, "Hi-Fi is really Mi-Fi."

isellgoodgear  My system’s based the unique and astonishing Audiopax amp with timbre lock.

From A’pax videos below, I see what t-lock sounds like. It seems much reverberation/resonance is removed. The soundstage seems shallow (no depth). Just my impression. Alex/WTA

Stereo Times Munich High End 2011: AudioPax

MERLIN VSM MXe AND AUDIOPAX

audiobellia & Audiopax APX01

Sound Galleries, Rethm loudspeakers, Antelope, Audiopax

OK, here’s a thought for all those people who complain about the YT quality due to their compression and what not.

Make a good video of your system and download it so that you can play it back as is.

Then send it off to YT.

Put both on your system and using near-field monitoring, listen back and forth and describe any differences you hear, and how bad is it..., really.

If there are no pics/sound..., it didn't happen:

This is the spectrum for the Heil without the reflector in place.

Here we add the reflector with the 1MM spacer.  Knowing that the woofer has a very steep slope at ~3,500 Hz, what would you rather listen too?

Now we change out the 1MM spacers to 0.6MM.  The problem with working with media this thin, you don't get a smooth edge.  But, note how the frequency balance has shifted down just a hair.  The real gains occur when you get <0.2MM, but this looks pretty darn good to me.

 

So, what kind of $$$ are we talking for such a shift, which is probably more than you would get from swapping cables?  Maybe a couple cents.

Some old friends dropped by to play.  You really hear the "noise" of the digital transfer on this CD.  I should have engaged the "tube simulator".

As always, this is on an Oppo-95 through a Yamaha RX-Z9 RECEIVER in "Pure Direct" mode and no eq or room correction, either electronic of physical is being used.  No special wires are used and the speaker wire is 14 gauge "speaker wire."  I did rewire the entire house/system to a 20 amp breaker with 8 gauge wire and no splices at all.  

The room is ~5,000 cu ft.

https://youtu.be/GFTrqUAvVLw

https://youtu.be/v7em409KZWQ

 I am not competitive because it will be ridiculous...

Learning how to set right a system/room is enough...

I can do it with any system/room then why being competitive for a specific chosen one ?

Mine is low cost anyway...

Bragging about his system is most of the times bragging about his bank account ...

I prefer to brag about knowledge ...devil

 

Ron’s system sounds really nice.  Nice and clear.  Very articulate.  The Voss system..., not so much.

@toddalin 

@carlos269

Thank you for the kind responses. I have been enjoying it tremendously. 
Your systems also sound fantastic! 

Ron 

This sounds expensive, smooth, and musical. Very nice! Slightly dry sound presentation due to silver cables but silver makes the sound more detailed. Never boring. Great sound system! Alex/WTA

ronboco   Ok here are the videos ! Hope you like them. 
https://youtu.be/OqIMkM2HuF0

https://youtu.be/UdxYNQueCdw

It’s hard to tell when recorded through an Iphone 4. But beautiful, you've all done well for yourselves!

 

I had to call the police on the last guy that listened to my system. He just couldn’t leave.

I don't. But sysstem envy of others' gear/listening rooms, I've certainly had my share of.

@mahgister 

“l prefer to brag about knowledge…”

”Bragging about his system is most of the times bragging about his bank account”
 

It’s always easy to beat an ignorant person with your 🧠 rather than with your 🤜 ‘s