You have know what the target is first to have a chance to hit it.
I can't agree more. I should know what I have which might hurt me later. The sound impacts the human health more than we know. And it's natural to avoid the bad sound (too many systems and speakers hurt our ears).
The pursuit of best sound is relative and knowing what's available is essential. Comparing the sound of mine to other systems is a easy way to do so.
The audio companies must make the better sound equipment. Their sounds are stuck for last 100 years and the sound is actually getting worse in my opinion. Listen to TV and radio music. All new songs and recordings are tipped up and sterile sounding that I lose interest in few seconds. When I turn on the radio news, I must careful and select certain better sound station cos some stations sound hurt my ears.
My system is absolutely the cleanest sound system (most refined) and I'm still trying to improve it knowing how important my work is for the future of all sound products. So, I can enjoy distortion/veil free recordings and smooth/clean sound radios. Alex/Wavetouch audio
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Same here. I want to help people.
So many people struggles with audio sounds for their lives. Life time upgrade, merry-go-round, without a promise of better sound and numerous disappointments should be changed by now after 150 audio history.
The world is filled with bad sounds which we must deal with every days such as bad sound radio stations, cell phone spkr, etc. Consider why many non-a’philes, spouses, and hi-fi haters don’t like this hobby. I believe I’m a frontier for the true meaningfully better sound. And you won’t lose any thing with my discovery/journey. Alex/Wavetouch audio
bigkidz Not competitive but always willing to help and even learn. As a manufacturer and repair service we get to hear so many components. ~~~ It is always nice to meet new people. Most are very genuine. Happy Listening.
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toddalin --- Mihorn has shown my case.
-- Here is the direct transfer: ttps://youtu.be/CoOp12ayIVg
-- And wavetouch version: https://youtu.be/lM-vtW-bygs
Ignore soundstage/imaging/separation. These are not comparable unless close-up micing is used and even then the playback equipment may not support it for what it is in the room.
Where did the bass go??? Where did the harmonics go? Why does it now sound "boxed in" and not open?
Hello,
The purpose of hi-end audio is recreating the original music. My system recreates the orig music faithfully. My room isn't recording studio. So, my video includes the sound of my room (with minimal acoustic treatment).
My system consists same simple gears at shows and at home for videos. The Show 2021 Microphones in my recording are 6ft from speakers. You can see in this which I speak and record music non-stop.
Where the bass go? My speakers woofer is 5.25" and goes down to 44hz (-6db) and I like it. When I want more bass, a sub can be added easily - 2024 audio show (w/sub).
Sound boxed in? Not open? - my system sounds the most neutral, open and cleaner than any system in the world.
My system's sound-stage and images (especially mid-range) are the most life-like. Compare Wavetouch vs. others below. Every ears are different. You might like different from my liking. Alex/Wavetouch audio
Original - FINK
Wavetouch audio - FINK
Focal - FINK , Thiel - FINK , PMC - FINK , Montemer Horn-FINK , Avantgarde -FINK
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@mihorn In the YouTube listening exercise laid out in your above post, the recording of the Thiel 3.7 sounds closest to the Original, followed by the recording of the Avantgarde.
Indeed, Thiel and AG are very good. And I hope you like Wavetouch too at fraction of their price, size and constraints. I won't argue here which is closer to the original and pleasant to listen to. Everyone has his opinion. Let's back to the regular scheduled program. Alex/Wavetouch audio
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You might be right. Tho whether dubbed or live recording, Thiel - FINK sounds really grainy and rough. Listen to Thiel - FINK for 2 minutes. And listen Wavetouch audio - FINK . I can hear WT forever w/out hurting ears.
toddalin I don’t agree. I can hear the room. I can also hear a resonance in the room not on the original. But it is well treated compared to most..
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* We aren’t bashing each other here. We talk about different sound styles.
I said all your audio systems sound veiled and mine doesn’t. All you asked before why non-a’philes don’t like this great hi-fi sound. The truth is they hear veiled hi-fi sounds correctly and we are using veils as immersive sounds.
You’ve been hearing veiled sound forever that you can’t hear my system correctly in 30 seconds. Your ears are too hardened with harsh sounds. Your ears and brain need some times to hear delicate true organic sounds.
At quick listen of un-natural sounds are splendid and stimulus. I know what happens to those sounds. Merry-go-round upgrade. They may sound good for short time but no satisfaction.
Thiel - FINK is not live-recording. It’s dubbed. I can’t hear his room. Video is very veiled and I thought it’s live, but no. His dubbing mixer creates much glare.
Alex/Wavetouch audio
Original - FINK
Wavetouch audio - FINK
Focal - FINK , PMC - FINK , Montemer Horn-FINK , Avantgarde -FINK
toddalin If you want true "high fidelity" you need the equipment and the room to back it up.
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toddalin ~~ If I had this track, I would do a demo (dogs allowing of course). But I don't and I don't stream.
I love to hear other systems. I downloaded Fink - Trouble's What You're In with free YT download app. You can do same. Fink is 21mb. Can I send this file to you in Agon? Alex/Wavetouch audio
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toddalin My computer is not connected to my stereo.
My system is not connected to comp nor internet. I make a copy to a memory stick in computer and play it to Oppo USB input. Alex/WTA
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toddalin you experience the soundstage, imaging, and microdetail that are possible at realistic levels that envelop one.
I heard your videos and I don’t need to hear your actual system to get real experience. I’ve been exhibiting my audios >10 years. I heard all exhibiting systems in all other rooms every years. All audio show videos sound signatures are exactly same as what I heard at there.
I know how a good hi-fi system suppose to sound from my experience. It’s the musicality and SQ of audio system to make a listener happy to hear it many hours. Thiel - FINK sounds like scratching a sand paper to me and nobody can listen those sounds for a long time and their spouse (in other room) will bag to get rid of it ASAP. Ask your spouse to hear this sound. Wavetouch audio - FINK Alex/Wavetouch audio
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toddalin No, you’ve not heard my videos because there are none, until now, of the current set-up. But whatever...
https://youtu.be/CoOp12ayIVg Original
https://youtu.be/yRsdYDuHjTI Todd’s
Hey Todd, Right, I heard your other videos a year ago. I’m hearing your new videos and it sounds much clearer than older videos. Your system sounds better than many (almost all) mega buck systems (>$500k). I admire your finding to make the clearer sound.
All due respect, the right speaker (Eric C voice in your video) sounds bit forward to my ears (irritation). My suggestion is taking off stuffing (3" x 3") from right spkr (remember how much removed). If my suggestion is rude and unacceptable, I’m very sorry and I apologize. I’m saying in my best respect of your spkr making skill. Alex/Wavetouch audio
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Hey Ron, Please post link of your system playing video.
Here is the clean sound system. OKTAN6 - My Favorite Picture Of You
There is no veil between me and the music (spkrs). Cheers! Alex/Wavetouch audio
@mihorn Please come over to my place and listen to my system and tell me what sounds veiled. Because it sure doesn’t sound veiled to me. Regards, Ron
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Many pro audio videos are made with cell-phones. I think it'll do just fine. Try it. Alex/WTA
ronboco I only have my phone to record my system playing so I don’t think it would sound good at all. I could give it a try though.
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Even better, the system is pure musical and spouse approves it. Alex/Wavetouch audio
mike4597 ~~~ I think the joy or satisfaction comes from being able to assemble a realistic sounding system
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I'm not a techie but this should work. If I'm wrong, please help guys.
With desktop computer
Go to Youtube.com and log-in with any gmail address (yours or anyone). And watch this video How to Upload Videos on YouTube.
Upload video from smart phone
Go to Youtube app and log-in with any gmail address (yours or anyone). And watch this video Upload to YouTube from Phone
In Agon
After your video is uploaded in YT, ---- copy your YT video address ------ in Agon "Post response", ------- click LINK (looks like a chain next to smile) ------- paste YT video address in Text and URL------- Click OK. Alex/WTA
ronboco @mihorn i recorded a few songs but don’t know how to get them here. Can you message me on the procedure. Thank you
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OMG! Your system sounds better than any $million systems in the world. I love it! Your sound slight forward for my taste but it’s matter of taste. And you can push back the sound-stage if you want later. You’re almost complete control of your system sound at this stage. Congrat! Big time! Alex/WTA
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Amazing! While people switch DACs few times and pay $$$$$ ($260k for a DAC?), 15 years old Oppo-95 sounds this. Again the separate DACs can’t avoid veils and glare (4 extra connectors on d cable destroy delicate d signals). Cheers! Alex/WTA
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