Just got permission to spill the beans:

The new contact enhancer, Nano-flo (TM), is being distributed by Krissy Tetrault, Tim Mrock’s widow. It is not a new version of TC, but something developed by a friend of Tim’s, who is a commercial manufacturer. Krissy is now introducing it to the world of audio.

@tommylion  - Introducing how and when?

FWIW, you may or may not want to let her know that there is a company called Nanoflo Laboratorie that makes and sells a product called Nano CBD, and there’s a nanobiotechnolgy organization in Florida with a website nanoflo.org. Point being the product name she wants to use may lead to confusion.

Nano-flo is slightly different @facten, and in a global economy, I’m betting cool names are getting scarcer by the dot.com?
I really couldn’t care about the name of it, it’s seriously as many of us have said, an impressive technology that works very effectively. When something works this well for not an overly uncomfortable investment, it’s going to gain traction. I’d bet on this becoming a staple audiophile must have.

@rixthetrick - Yes I get it has a hyphen - was just pointing it out don't know if she knows or not, nor if she cares or not. No sweat for me either way

facten,

I don’t have any specific information about introduction and timing. Knowing Kristy, though, I’m sure she’ll get things up and running as quickly as possible. I suspect she is already aware of the other similar names out there, but I’ll pass it in on.

@facten - fair enough, but it's registered now, so I guess it doesn't matter as much as the effectiveness of the product. I'm sure she will read this and you have informed her. Genuinely though, it's a decent thing you did to go check it out.
I'm sure she'd be better off knowing, particularly for eMarketing and such, to differentiate the products.
 

@debjit_g - I am sorry, I tried to send you a DM/PM with the means to contact the distributor, however there are censorship means put in place that prohibits personal information to be shared, including emails.

when nano-flo becomes a searchable term, I suppose the website will be up and you can buy it online.

@rixthetrick thanks. the info will come out anyway, so Agon putting censorship will probably not last long but I can see that they are merely following their policy. I have owned The Gate and Omega emats from late Tim/PPT and know effective they are. I can't wait to try some of the Nano-flo stuff in my system. I hope Krissy makes it available soon for others.

I remember how Chrissy and Tim behave as normal and convivial people, I hope the same spirit will be continued. You ordered  3 mats and received 4 . They had delicacy to not even mention it until you thanked them. 
when I see builder of a famous tt who dares to ask 3000€ for another pod for your new tonearm, a simple piece of metal with 4 holes in it, they take us for their personal cash machine. Bad attitude is so normal in this business and so easily accepted that it’s a breath of fresh air when people behave normally. Sorry I disgress.

 @senza +1

Looking forward to trying this when it is available.  Hopefully soon. Great to hear the positive comments.

How about schilling your contact enhancer business in another thread?

This Lady does not make this product it's not her"s to give away. Tim and Krissy developed and made their own product and could give away as much of that product as they wished or could afford to do so..Again this is not the case for this new product this time around. I am happy to be a schill for a dedicated woman of audio the widow of our friend Tim Mrock. The New Kid on the Block speaks transparently for itself.Tom

“How about schilling your contact enhancer business in another thread?”

You mean us audio enthusiasts should share our enthusiasm about a product we have actually tried and like, somewhere else, because this thread has absolutely nothing to with contact enhancers? I suppose a new thread would be easier for people like you to target and get shut down.

As Tim often said. "YEP"....

@agisthos - I almost feel like saying,"Can't you go complain in another forum?".

I forgot to mention another benefit of the multi-adapter power conditioner I described in the previous post. If you don’t paint the points of the multiple adapter (just do the double adapters), then you do not need to get any Q45T residue inside your ac wall outlets. And you still get 6 treated AC contacts, with surge protection if your multiple adapter is like mine. You can use as many of the units I described as you like, each additional one will improve the sound to the same extent as the first.

I’m sure it will work pretty well with standard Q45T. There are ways of making it much more powerful. Although I haven’t used Q45T I know it’s not as powerful as it could be, because if it was, it wouldn’t be black.

@steakster ,  I have found that nano-flo adds both.  Huge improvement over TC.  It's like a 3-d conditioner.  Listening to albums I am quite familiar with shows a greater sound stage, but more impressively, the sound and separation of instruments is significant.  It's like a "better" button. I suspect all things nano, regardless of name, are going to be a game changer.  My experience is with "the new kid" and it's awesome. To be transparent, I was given a free sample that covered my power alone. Based on that, I have  purchased enough to treat my whole system

The drug dealer method. 😁

@acman3 - marketing 101, and yes I suppose the recreational pharmaceutical salesmen practice marketing strategy too (a play on words, like back home when they say, wall coating technician = house painter, vertically challenged = short, or a few roos loose in the top paddock). Every now and then I’ll accept the free morsel being fried up as I shop through the produce section, and less frequently go off to purchase the product. In this case I had a taste and I’m hooked.


@steakster - I don’t know the term tonal density, so I cannot answer that one, sorry.
From listening impressions, the lower frequencies are not overcome by the higher and mids, and there does seem to be more articulate bass (the recognition of what kind of drum, or that it’s synthesized is more readily achieved). I am using stand mounts in an average sized room, and it’s very much in the recording the lower bass levels to mids and highs ratio, in my case I am hearing the bass more so now regardless of the track.

I don’t know about other listeners, I take a little more time on well known tracks to dissemble what I can hear that’s different, usually recognising more readily a lesser performance than incremental gains. This is easily an effortless perception of increased resolution on many well loved tracks.

Transients (particularly higher frequencies) and decay of things like cymbals, bells and synthesized notes is clearer and I have noticed the system is more revealing, without presenting as harsh. I have silk dome tweeters, which are noted for that sonic characteristic of not having a shrill sound.

I’m waiting on more product to go inside components on connectors and fuses etc.
I have built a fanless music server, and I’m going to treat the JCat Femto’s PCI Express, power for SSDs and Sata connectors. (as for the server, I’m not actually expecting much difference, but a little goes such a long way, why not try it I figure)

Go create a nano-flo thread and post about it there. I genuinely hope its better than the HFC stuff.

But a couple of you are blatantly spamming your commercial interests here.

This thread should be reserved for HFC and the serious discussion of whether these guys are going to get their 10's of thousands of dollars in purchases refunded or delivered upon.

agisthos,

All your opinion. If there are any issues worthy of the moderators’ attention, I’m sure they will address them.

Then go start a thread regarding any potential legal recourse for monetary recovery from HFC. Start a go fund a lawyer collection page. Good luck tracking down geographically where the culprit or culprits are at this time...and who owns what assets both the physical and intellectual property. Spend more money. This all sucks. For those owed and for the entire clientele, employees as well as the entire audio industry. The connection here is between 1 or more contact enhancer products and their pluses and minuses either past or present. 2 mentioned are no longer available and 1 will be available very soon. Past present and future there appears as if there is only 1 valid and logical choice currently which is a mighty fine one for sure. Tom

I think Rick should at least communicate with those customers who ordered? If Rick will not be able to resolve this issues , if even he wants to go back to do cables again and other products, Basically his business will be affected , in terms of trust?

@agisthos -  ok, understood. Peace.

This thread should be reserved for HFC and the serious discussion of whether these guys are going to get their 10’s of thousands of dollars in purchases refunded or delivered upon.

Agree 100% with the seriousness of this thread to those who have lost their cash.

@jetter - understood. Peace

High Fidelity Cable replaces NPS 1260

The product is going to be called NPS Q45T. Not out yet, but on their Facebook page.

Unfortunately this thread has a title that didn’t indicate the nature this has taken with people discussing how to recover from a nasty or unfortunate state of affairs.

I originally came to share my comments on a newer contact enhancer that had already been mentioned by somebody else.

I sincerely hope buyer’s purchases are fully refunded, or they at the very least get that which was paid for.

I expect to receive my NPS Q45T this coming week.

Communications have been good and normal.

Have been quite anxious to try the Q45T since the results with just my fuses and phono cable treated with the original NPS 1260 has been nothing short of stunning!

Overall, the SQ became a major leap more “real”.

I will certainly check in after the new stuff gets applied.

Rich did tell me that it is not necessary to remove the 1260 before applying Q45T.

I do expect it to be easier to apply.

@mglik - Why do you suppose agisthos wrote,

"This thread should be reserved for HFC and the serious discussion of whether these guys are going to get their 10's of thousands of dollars in purchases refunded or delivered upon."

I hope that your information is correct? Certainly there is speculation regarding a lot of money invested. All the best.

Has anyone ever tried mixing nanodiamonds in Stabilant 22? Pretty easy to make I imagine. Try googling Dinnovare, Daicel corporation Japan.

Diamond is not a conductor and nano diamonds are even less.Tom

Tom - From the Daicel website

"Insulators such as plastics and rubber could be turned into electrical conductors by dispersing nanodiamonds into them. (Tunnel effect)"

If you read the website you’ll notice that each nanodiamond has an exterior coating of amorphous carbon (with unique electrical properties).

@whostolethebatmobile - do you want me to put a megger on it and verify?

We really aught to respect those Agon users who are concerned that their High Fidelity Cables refunds or products will be delivered. Please ask further questions
as per request:
 

Rick - I don’t have samples of nanodiamond or Stabilant 22. I was wondering if anyone else had tried it. I think there’s huge but unconfirmed potential.

ps - I am currently negotiating with a supplier for some sample quantities of various nanodiamond varieties. Purely for my own interest.

Another thing I’d like to know - does the nanoflow work when painted on the outside insulation of wires (for example AC cables), or must it touch the metal to work? This is very important, to ascertain the potential benefits of nanoflo vs. Q45T.

Unfortunately, I remember this happening several years ago prior to Rick moving to the United States from Canada. The company suddenly closed up shop and moved. I truly hope anyone that has currently spent money on an order gets compensated. I'd suggest you contact your credit card company for a refund. That's the only way I recouped my loss, back in the day, that I referred to above.

I was concerned until I texted Rick and was answered right away.

Have no doubt that I will receive my Q45T this week. 
Sent a screen shot of my PayPal invoice and he responded “Perfect, will ship in 1-2 days.”.

mglik

That is good to hear

mglik

Did you get your product yet? If so what did you think?

No Q45T yet. But Rick has been communicating by text a lot this week and he was clear that he has made a new, more potent batch of Q45T and mine was now shipped. I am confident that I will receive it within a few days. Will certainly report when it comes and how it works. Rick was clear that it takes 40 hours to break in and 70 hours to fully take effect. He also suggested that it is best to remove any 1260 with alcohol and cotton swab.

And it will soon be available at contactenhancer dot com.

Did the Nano-flo unleashed to the world ? Just curious if they have been offering for sale yet ?

mglik

Thanks for the up date- let us know what you think or any other info when it is available at contactenhancer dot com.

Sorry folks, but I have keep my feet up, so as not to step in the ever rising BS about NPS 1260, the Q45T that is "twice as effective" and now a more potent batch of Q45T.  It just never ends!

By the way, I use and like 1260 and Q45T, but let's not get carried away and lose sight of people that say they have been left high and dry by HFC- to say nothing of employees of the defunct company.

More potent would just mean more of the main (black) active ingredient mixed into the Stabilant 22. If you used more of this ingredient in a batch, it would indeed be more potent. The only downside is, the thicker the mixture gets, the more likely it would destroy the beneficial properties of the Stabilant 22 base. In other words, it would become conductive and possibly cause a short on data cables etc.

But for spade connectors etc., the thicker the better. The active ingredient works better the more you use. Literally, forever. Rick Schultz hints at this in one of his videos and he's right.

My god. How is this possible?! Put some Q45T on my power cables and fuses, and wow.

Someone may have mentioned it, but are there any potential health hazards from the ingredients, having residue around/in outlets etc.?

Deleted my post because on reflection, I’m not qualified to comment on the safety of Q45T. Personally I would not worry, is as far as I’ll go.

If you like what you’re hearing on the AC, try the multiple adapter with 6 x double adapters, pins lightly painted and plugged in to the strip (see my earlier post). No need to paint the pins of the multiple adapter, that way you don’t get any in the wall outlet.

Of course you can go further...all 6 double adapters have socket holes as well..just need to get a tiny amount of Q45T into those sockets, using an AC plug painted with a thin layer of Q45T. Coat it, plug it once and remove it.

That's a good suggestion. I've got one coated plug in each zone of my Denali v2 distributor and I could try coating the other outlets in there. I was just a little concerned about the AC outlet and residue because I rent currently, and was just imaging a family with small children moving in after me. If it was my own place I would do the main AC connected to the Denali and use a couple coated PS Audio Noise Harvesters in other outlets.

It's wild how wide and spacious my system is all of a sudden. Despite all my Shunyata cabling and power filter, fancy fuses, optical isolation etc there must still have been enough noise in my system that was increasing L-R channel crosstalk. It sounds about 2-3 ft wider now.

 When I type in contactenhancer.com nothing comes up.  I would really like to try the nano Flo however getting to purchase it seems to be a problem.